In Search Of Logical Answers?

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    ----and we can't feed the numbers-------

    No you can't feed people , you can't cause the plants to grow, you can't make rain fall, you can't let the digestive system work even within your ownself .........you can look, think, ponder , make experiment , write your thoughts ......and explore the world ......but you are not running this world .......we live for a while .....it is very nice to do all the good we can for humanity ..........then we leave ( carrying with us two things no more our faith in the creator and our deeds). Those scientist who do good with sincere intention to please their creator will be rewarded in accordance to what is in their hearts.
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    Modern human beings in our form have existed for the last 250,000 years. So why, exactly, has Islam existed for only about 1400 years?

    Quran tells that Islam started with Adam alaihi alsalam, all prophets of Allah taught Islam in it's essence , they differ in miner details .Islam starts with the beginning of humanity.
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    Some knowledge can be overwhelming and it takes time to absorb it .Else we will end up being overwhelmed.Let us all take things gradually,argue less and listen more,try to understand each other's pov.Whatever be the case,none can deny that there is a creator behind this beautiful creation,this should be clear insha'Allah.
    I have zero knowledge in the subject of biology,although in sha' Allah I am trying to learn.
    Our origin is connected to our place of return.To Allah we belong and to Him shall we be returned.So it's infact the place of return and the source we should be worried about.Because in the end when the matter is decided,nothing else will work for us.
    As for Islam existing,it existed always,everything created submits to Allah willingly or unwillingly.As a way of life for humans it started from our parents Aadam and Hauwwa(peace be upon them),although the laws differed but way of life remained same throughout,until the final messenger :saw: came.
    Then after there was sent a messenger,reciting unto people (signs/verses) from their Lord,if people rejected,they will be asked if no warner came to them?Those who believed will be looking at the face of their Rabb,with their faces shining.
    I would suggest myself first then every one else to read the last few verses of Surah Az Zumar chapter 39 and Surah Al Qiyamah chapter 75 of the Qur'an,just as a reminder in sha' Allah.
    Salam
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    hayat84 I'm not what you believe

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    while you're searching for logical answers,Time runs,life slides away every second.There is no logical answer in something which is too big for us.every attempt to find an answer is just a wasting of time.Try to stay with the feet on the earth and content yourselves of what you have:it's enough for us.let you leave those arguments for the ones who want to answer to everything until they'll fill their thirst of knowledge....read Ayat al Kursi and you'll find the logical answers:)
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    http://www.scienceislam.com/evolution_creation.php
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    :salam2:

    Brother Mohammed, when you start a post, plesae start with a 'salam'. It shows you come with peace, and wish peace to others.

    Secondly, it's good to be well-versed with science, but it wouldn't hurt to please please show some respect and adab when talking to your fellow muslims, and especially your muslim sisters. I'm horrified how you're treating our dear precious sister Aisya al-Humaira.

    Thirdly, you never answered my question back from Page 4. I asked how that if Adam alayhis salaam was 60 cubits tall, how come we evolved from itty bitty apes?

    Fourthly, you say you'll only listen to people who hold scientific degrees, and no one else. Well, our dear Prophet :)saw2:) was illiterate, and held no science degree. Please read your words again and realize what you're saying. And for the love of Allah (Subhana wa taala) respect the scholars.
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    Asalaam alaikum,

    I think Scotty is a trouble maker. We ought to teach him a lesson.
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    Islam is the same one message revealed to all prophets of Allah subhanahu wa taaala through times. It is the belief of Adem ,Nouh, Ibrahim, Mossa, Essa, ..........all the prophets alaihim alsalam and finally Mohammad salla Allah alaihi wa sallam .

    2:136 Say: "We believe in Allah and in that which has been bestowed from on high upon us, and that which has been bestowed upon Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and ,their descendants, and that which has been vouchsafed to Moses and Jesus; and that which has been vouchsafed to all the [other] prophets by their Sustainer: we make no distinction between any of them. And it is unto Him that we surrender ourselves." - *! *!
    Translation of the meanings of Quran
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    Let us just say I'm great hacker ;)
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    okkkkk dear freind skotty i accept the evolution ...but i have some confusion ....... can u tell me is evolution a continuos process or it as some end point also
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    Where did the single cell come from to kick start the evolution?
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    Lisa1979 account has been hacked, Aapa sent some E Books to read and infected her computer and taken her TTI password.

    This needs to stop as its getting beyond a joke.
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    Well it is according to Lisa whom I'm in contact with on another forum.
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    I will say I am one who believes in evolution like Brother Scotty does. I see no issue between my belief in Allah (swt) and evolution. The fossil record is there for all to see. I have debated this topic on a couple of other Muslim groups and oddly this seems to be the one place where there is basically zero support for evolution.
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    Assalam alakium,

    Nah I am good, there are good people on here who I have learned alot about but there are some rather close minded people as well. You take the good with the bad. It is for Allah (swt) to judge me on my belief in evolution. I see it all the time with Christians too, they are so against evolution despite the fossil record being clear. I am firm in my deen and my belief in science. I see no reason you can not have one w/out the other.
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    Assalaamu Alaikum,

    Thanks Sister Shak78. (Scotty if you are reading this) Read book 'The Blind Spot', in short scientific discoveries are a 'work in progress' and there is more to find, and there are boundaries to our understanding (refer quoted excerpts below). You agree there is a God, that's fundamental to belief. The details of how Allah did, we may never get the complete minute details, but likely to develop an understanding, if Almighty wills. The below is for contemplating, its a good effort to develop a better understanding of our ability to reason. (Posting it for general benefit, because its of common interest.)

    A Good Review of the book The Blind Spot :

    Podcast and comments:
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