Is it really her conviction?!!!

farhopes

No God but Allah
Once I had didcussion with a friend and she arose some ideas that seemed to me a little bit dangerous concerning her Aqida( the principles of her faith) First when she said that when we see our prophet's face is like seeing Allah's face. The other thing when she said that we can't reach Allah directly. Actually, I'm not quite sure of what she meant about that. Anyway, I'm going to tell you my own ideas and believes about that.
We all know that in the Holy Qur'an Allah said about himself that, "Nothing at all is like Him." Moreover, our prophet, peace be upon him, mentioned that Allah is completely different from any imagination we may do. Allah is so far and beyond any thoughts that my come to our minds. By saying so, I'm just concerning how Allah looks like, not His Names or Characteristics that should be known to all Muslims.

As for the other thing she mentioned, that we can't reach Allah directly, I think it's me who didn't understand her very well. Anyway, I believe in what is mentioned in The Holy Qura'n about that issue. Allah said," If my slaves ask you about me, I am so near." Allah didn't say," Tell them I'm so near." He directly said, "I'm so near." Moreover, our prophet said that Allah likes it when we call Him and make Doa'a( supplications ) using our own words within the limits that the prophet, peace be upon him has defined concerning respect and not to exceed in our doa'a.

Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, is our guide to Allah. He shows us the right path how we worship Allah on the straight way. We are ordered to love him more than ourselves, our parents and even our children. That great love is the sign and evidence of our belief. Showing that love should be in carrying out everything he told us to carry out, seeking Allah's face and pleasure. Every simple thing we do such as just a smile you show it to people, seeking Allah and his prophet's pleasure, this is a sign of love. When you show some tenderness to an orphan, this will be a sign of love. All righteous deeds show our love and I think that's how we should love Him and that is what He expects from us.
What do you think about that???
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
:salam2:

there is actually difference in opinions between the salafi and the ahli sunna...
The best way to know this is to read books written by the tabi7in ,tabi tabi7in...specifically Imam Hanafi RA:)
 

Imad

Junior Member
Assalmoelaikoemwarahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

I'm just concerning how Allah looks like

No you don't have to be concerend about this, because you will never see Him in this world. I hope Insha Allah we will see Him in janat. because Allah says: " faces on that day are shining looking to their Lord"

In this verse the faces of the muslims are shining which are looking to their Lord in janat.

Allah is near to us, which means He can hear us and see us. He can hear our doe3a, so our doe3a can reach Him.

Loving our prophet means Following Him. That's why Allah says: " say (O Muhammed) if you love Allah, follow me, He will love you and forgive your sins"

This means we Worship only Allah and Allah ordered us to follow our prophet Muhammed Sallalahu 3alaihi wassalem.

If i made a mistake in translation of the Quran, inform me please.

wassalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

Imad
 

Imad

Junior Member
Assalmoelaikem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

Salafi are ahlu sunna waljama3a

wassalmo alaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

Imad
 

NaXuS

Junior Member
wut u wrote was nice my own believe is that Prophets r loved like Prophets n Allah is love like Allah.

Mohammed Pbuh have to be loved more then any other to be a good Muslim but he is a Prophet n Allah is the God of that Prophet.Any way here is a gift for u.


Volume 8, Book 73, Number 192:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

A man asked the Prophet "When will the Hour be established O Allah's Apostle?" The Prophet . said, "What have you prepared for it?" The man said, " I haven't prepared for it much of prayers or fast or alms, but I love Allah and His Apostle." The Prophet said, "You will be with those whom you love."
 

Globalpeace

Banned
W-Salam,

Two corrections, Brother:

1) Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) was actually a Taba'e; see way below:

2) It doesn't matter whether you are Hanafee, Shaf'ae, Maliki or Hanbali; we don't make Ta'weel in the Aqeedah at all; see below:

A man asked Imam Malik (d. 179): "How did Allah make istiwa' on the throne?" Imam Malik inclined his head and was silent until the sweat of fever covered his brow, then he looked up and said: "Istiwa' is not unknown (ghayru majhul), the modality of it is inconceivable in the mind (al-kayfu minhu ghayru ma`qul); but belief in it is obligatory, and inquiring about it is a heretical innovation. You are an innovator." And he gave orders for him to be taken out.


Imaam Abu Hanifah a Tabi’ee

According to the majority of Muhadditheen it is sufficient for a person to meet a Sahaabi or merely see one to he classified a Tabiee. It is not essential that he remain in the Sahaaha’ s company and also narrate from him. This definition has been agreed upon by the lmaams: Hakim. lbnus Salaah, An Nawai and Al Iraqi also. Now we will take a look at what other great people have to state about Imaam Abu Hanifah.

lmaam Zahabi (RA) writes in Tazkiratul-Huffaz that Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) as born in 80 AH. He saw Anas Ibn Malik (RA) more than once (meaning) every time Anas Ibn Malik (RA) would visit Kufa.
Jalaluddin Suvuti (RA) states in his book Tabyeedh-us-Saheefah, “This question, ‘Is Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) a Tahi’ee or not?’ Was directed at Hafiz Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani (RA). He answered, ‘Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) has met a group of Sahaabah. The Imaam was born in Makkah in 80 AH and at that time Abdullah Ibn Abi Awafaa (who passed away afterwards,) was present in Makkah and Anas Ihn Malik . (who passed away in 90 AH or after,) was in Basrah.”

Hafiz Abdul Ghani Al Maqdasi (RA) states in Al-Kama. ‘Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) saw Anas (RA)

lbn Hajar Al-Makki (RA) writes Ali-Khavraatul-Hisaan. ‘‘It is true as Zahabi (RA) said that Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) did see Anas Ibn Malik (RA), whilst he (Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) was still young.”

Hafiz Khatib Baghdadi (RA) confirms in his book Tarikh-ul-Baghdad.
‘Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) saw Anas Ibn Malik (RA).”
Hamzah As Sahami (RA) states. “I heard Daru Qutni say ‘Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) did not meet any Companion of Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) except Anas Ibn Malik (RA).”

lmaam Abu Hanifah (RA) narrating from the Sahaabah

lmaam Abdul Qadir Al Misri (RA) states. The Companions who
Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) heard (‘ahadith) from were; Abdullah Ibn
Unavs (RA), Ahdullah Ibn Jaz’a az Zabeede (RA), Anas Ibn Malik (RA), Jabir
Ibn Abdillah (RA), Ma‘qal Ibn Yasaar (RA , Wathila Ibnul Asqa’ (RA) and Aa’isha Bint Ajrad (RA).

Abdullah lbn Ja’far Ar Razi (RA) relates that Imaam Abu Yusuf (RA) stated. ‘1 heard Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) say to us, ‘l performed Haj with my father in 93 AH (‘this is the year according to one view,) when I was 16 years old. There was a S’heikh present there with mane people (seated) around him, so I asked my father who the Sheikh was. He informed me that he was a Companion of Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) Known as Abduliah Ibnul Harith Ibn Jaza (RA)’. ‘What does he have (which makes the people gather around him,)?’ I enquired from my father. He replied, ‘Ahadith which he has heard from Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam). Thus, I requested my father to take me closer so I may listen. He began to take me through the masses until I was close enough to hear. I heard him report that Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said, ‘Whoever acquires an understanding of Allah’s Deen, Allah suffices him (takes care of’ him) in his matters of concern and provides him with sustenance through such mediums which he did not even anticipate. ‘

Abdullah Ibn Abdil Barr (RA) has also mentioned the same incident.
Allamah Khawarizmi (RA) states. “Among the excellencies and virtues
which are not shared by anybody else after him, was Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) narrating from the Companions of Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam). Ulama are agreed upon this fact, although there is some dispute regarding the number of Companions. “(It is possible that here he means the agreement of the Hanafi Ulama, but it should be kept in mind that as the Arabic proverb says. “The people of the house are more aware of what is in it.“)



:salam2:

there is actually difference in opinions between the salafi and the ahli sunna...
The best way to know this is to read books written by the tabi tabi7in...specifically Imam Hanafi RA:)
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
W-Salam,

Two corrections, Brother:

1) Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) was actually a Taba'e; see way below:

2) It doesn't matter whether you are Hanafee, Shaf'ae, Maliki or Hanbali; we don't make Ta'weel in the Aqeedah at all; see below:

A man asked Imam Malik (d. 179): "How did Allah make istiwa' on the throne?" Imam Malik inclined his head and was silent until the sweat of fever covered his brow, then he looked up and said: "Istiwa' is not unknown (ghayru majhul), the modality of it is inconceivable in the mind (al-kayfu minhu ghayru ma`qul); but belief in it is obligatory, and inquiring about it is a heretical innovation. You are an innovator." And he gave orders for him to be taken out.


Imaam Abu Hanifah a Tabi’ee

According to the majority of Muhadditheen it is sufficient for a person to meet a Sahaabi or merely see one to he classified a Tabiee. It is not essential that he remain in the Sahaaha’ s company and also narrate from him. This definition has been agreed upon by the lmaams: Hakim. lbnus Salaah, An Nawai and Al Iraqi also. Now we will take a look at what other great people have to state about Imaam Abu Hanifah.

lmaam Zahabi (RA) writes in Tazkiratul-Huffaz that Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) as born in 80 AH. He saw Anas Ibn Malik (RA) more than once (meaning) every time Anas Ibn Malik (RA) would visit Kufa.
Jalaluddin Suvuti (RA) states in his book Tabyeedh-us-Saheefah, “This question, ‘Is Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) a Tahi’ee or not?’ Was directed at Hafiz Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani (RA). He answered, ‘Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) has met a group of Sahaabah. The Imaam was born in Makkah in 80 AH and at that time Abdullah Ibn Abi Awafaa (who passed away afterwards,) was present in Makkah and Anas Ihn Malik . (who passed away in 90 AH or after,) was in Basrah.”

Hafiz Abdul Ghani Al Maqdasi (RA) states in Al-Kama. ‘Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) saw Anas (RA)

lbn Hajar Al-Makki (RA) writes Ali-Khavraatul-Hisaan. ‘‘It is true as Zahabi (RA) said that Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) did see Anas Ibn Malik (RA), whilst he (Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) was still young.”

Hafiz Khatib Baghdadi (RA) confirms in his book Tarikh-ul-Baghdad.
‘Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) saw Anas Ibn Malik (RA).”
Hamzah As Sahami (RA) states. “I heard Daru Qutni say ‘Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) did not meet any Companion of Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) except Anas Ibn Malik (RA).”

lmaam Abu Hanifah (RA) narrating from the Sahaabah

lmaam Abdul Qadir Al Misri (RA) states. The Companions who
Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) heard (‘ahadith) from were; Abdullah Ibn
Unavs (RA), Ahdullah Ibn Jaz’a az Zabeede (RA), Anas Ibn Malik (RA), Jabir
Ibn Abdillah (RA), Ma‘qal Ibn Yasaar (RA , Wathila Ibnul Asqa’ (RA) and Aa’isha Bint Ajrad (RA).

Abdullah lbn Ja’far Ar Razi (RA) relates that Imaam Abu Yusuf (RA) stated. ‘1 heard Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) say to us, ‘l performed Haj with my father in 93 AH (‘this is the year according to one view,) when I was 16 years old. There was a S’heikh present there with mane people (seated) around him, so I asked my father who the Sheikh was. He informed me that he was a Companion of Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) Known as Abduliah Ibnul Harith Ibn Jaza (RA)’. ‘What does he have (which makes the people gather around him,)?’ I enquired from my father. He replied, ‘Ahadith which he has heard from Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam). Thus, I requested my father to take me closer so I may listen. He began to take me through the masses until I was close enough to hear. I heard him report that Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said, ‘Whoever acquires an understanding of Allah’s Deen, Allah suffices him (takes care of’ him) in his matters of concern and provides him with sustenance through such mediums which he did not even anticipate. ‘

Abdullah Ibn Abdil Barr (RA) has also mentioned the same incident.
Allamah Khawarizmi (RA) states. “Among the excellencies and virtues
which are not shared by anybody else after him, was Imaam Abu Hanifah (RA) narrating from the Companions of Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam). Ulama are agreed upon this fact, although there is some dispute regarding the number of Companions. “(It is possible that here he means the agreement of the Hanafi Ulama, but it should be kept in mind that as the Arabic proverb says. “The people of the house are more aware of what is in it.“)


JazakAllah bro. a much needed explaination
 

farhopes

No God but Allah
Assalamo alikom

I'm really glad that my article has arisen that great discussion, I really didn't expect that. I wanna say that the friend i was talking about in my article has a strong belief that we can't reach Allah directly and we can only reach Him through Al-Awliaa( the very pious and good dead Muslims). She's even very careful to offer her Du'a( supplications and calling upon Allah) in the graves of those Awliaa. I never see such belief as correct Aqeedh. This is against what Allah clarifies in Qura'n that He is so near and can respond to us without the intercession of any human except prophet Muhammed as we should start and end our Du'a by praying upon him.
I really need someone specialist to tell us which thought is closer to the spirit of Islam....

your sister, Amany
 

Globalpeace

Banned
Asslamo Allaikum,

Your friend sounds like a Barelwi!





I'm really glad that my article has arisen that great discussion, I really didn't expect that. I wanna say that the friend i was talking about in my article has a strong belief that we can't reach Allah directly and we can only reach Him through Al-Awliaa( the very pious and good dead Muslims). She's even very careful to offer her Du'a( supplications and calling upon Allah) in the graves of those Awliaa. I never see such belief as correct Aqeedh. This is against what Allah clarifies in Qura'n that He is so near and can respond to us without the intercession of any human except prophet Muhammed as we should start and end our Du'a by praying upon him.
I really need someone specialist to tell us which thought is closer to the spirit of Islam....

your sister, Amany
 

Imad

Junior Member
Assalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

You are right dear sister farhopes. Dead people will not answer de doe3a of this people.

Allah says: " La yasma3oen Do3aekom" Translation: "They do not hear your prayers ( Doe3a's)"

It's haram to call dead people to help you, because they will not help you.

And also farhopes i want evidence for the following.
we should start and end our Du'a by praying upon him

Do you think it's obligatory to start and end our doe3a by praying upon our prophet?

wassalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

Imad
 

Imad

Junior Member
Assalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

dear brother ayman what do you mean by

Sunni Islam

You have to know there is 1 islam. So it''s better to say: " it is forbidden in Islam"


Wassalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

Imad
 

Imad

Junior Member
Assalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh my dear brother Ayman,

Yes i certainly know there are differend sects. Of course they have differences my dear brother, but do you think each sect has his own islam?

My dear brother my intention is not to Quable with you, my intention is to correct misconceptions about islam, this is also the aim of this website.

Islam my dear brother ayman is the religion of Allah, it does not belong to any sect. You cann't say suni islam, sufi islam, shia islam etc..

Allah has chosen islam for us and not the opposite. The wrong things people do are not from islam thats it.

That's why i said

So it's better to say: " it is forbidden in Islam"

Please read the Quraan from the beginning to the end and you will see. read the ahadith from the beginning to the end and you will see.

If you think i am wrong, please explain to me why?

I want to remind you of the following hadieth.

our prophet sallalahu 3alaihi wassalem said: "The Jews split into 71 sects, and the Christians split into 72 sects. My nation is going to split into 73 sects, and all of them will be in the Hellfire except one."

It was said, "Who are they, O Messenger of Allaah?"

He replied,

"They those who are upon what I and my Companions are upon."

Take Care

Wassalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

Imad
 
Assalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh my dear brother Ayman,

Yes i certainly know there are differend sects. Of course they have differences my dear brother, but do you think each sect has his own islam?

My dear brother my intention is not to Quable with you, my intention is to correct misconceptions about islam, this is also the aim of this website.

Islam my dear brother ayman is the religion of Allah, it does not belong to any sect. You cann't say suni islam, sufi islam, shia islam etc..

Allah has chosen islam for us and not the opposite. The wrong things people do are not from islam thats it.

That's why i said



Please read the Quraan from the beginning to the end and you will see. read the ahadith from the beginning to the end and you will see.

If you think i am wrong, please explain to me why?

I want to remind you of the following hadieth.

our prophet sallalahu 3alaihi wassalem said: "The Jews split into 71 sects, and the Christians split into 72 sects. My nation is going to split into 73 sects, and all of them will be in the Hellfire except one."

It was said, "Who are they, O Messenger of Allaah?"

He replied,

"They those who are upon what I and my Companions are upon."

Take Care

Wassalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

Imad

Jazakallahu khair brother. I agree with you 200%. There is no mentioning of sunni, shiite, sufi, etc in the Quran--it says to refer ourselves as Muslims. We are ALL Muslims, just some are practicing it incorrectly. We should not establish and create sects. TTI was created to clear those misconceptions and inshallah help us all practice Islam correctly--by reading the Quran and the sunnah of the Prophet (saw).

walaakum salaam
 

justmuslim

Junior Member
Asalaamu alaykum to all


what are these groups hanifia, shafia, maliki etc? is that matter anyway? i guess i never understood. if i follow the what Allah say to qur'an and sunna isn't that enough. do i have to be one of these groups. i guess i never understood

wasalamu allaykum
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
Asalaamu alaykum to all


what are these groups hanifia, shafia, maliki etc? is that matter anyway? i guess i never understood. if i follow the what Allah say to qur'an and sunna isn't that enough. do i have to be one of these groups. i guess i never understood

wasalamu allaykum

There are imams of fiqh...
 

farhopes

No God but Allah
Assalamo alikom

First I wanna say that i agree with brother Imad that we shouldn't talk about Islam as sects because there was only and still be one right Islam. However , I agree with brother Ayman that having sects is a fact we shouldn't escape from it but rather face it and try hard to deal with it and treat it . I'm quite sure that is not easy at all to make all the sects turn to be the one which the prophet and his companions were upon, but at least we , as a group belonging to that reasonable site, should do our best to clarify that there is only one right Islam, not many
As for brother Imad needing for an evidence that we should start and end our Du'a by praying upon the prophet; I'M NOT SAYING THAT DOING THAT IS OBLIGATORY. I just read that doing such prayer will be inshaa Allah one of the guarantees of responding to the Do'a. At the begining of your Do'a it's recommended to praise Allah and pray on His prophet. You asked for an evidence, if you still need one ,i'll try to provide you with it soon inshaa Allah:salam2:
 

Imad

Junior Member
Assalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbarakatuh,

Thank your dear sister farhopes and others for your understanding.

But some of you have misunderstood me. I hope insha Allah to remove the misunderstanding.

First of all it's allowed to distinguish yourself from other sects, because the existence of the differend sects are reality. And also i didn't deny the existence of the differend sects. If you read my posts carefully you would see this.

Yes we are called muslims by Allah in the Quraan, but does this mean it's not allowed for us to distinguish ourselfs from the differend sects?

Gain knowledge from trustworthy scholars and you will see.

Its allowed to say i'am a muslim, or a sunni or a salafi, this is not the problem. The big problem arises when you say sunni islam or sufi islam or shia islam. I have seen this on differend websites, believe me.

Islam is one and if something is done wrong, we say it's not from islam. You can also say it's not from the sunna or you can say the salaf salih didn't do that.

You have to distinguish this differend things.

You cann't say it's not from sunni islam, because you give me the impression there are more and differend islams. Islam of the sunnies, islam of the sufies etc.....

Insha Allah dear sister farhopes, i wanted only to clear the misconception because you said : " we should" So i thought you mean it's obligatory. Alhamdullilah

If you have the hadieth about recommendation send it to me please. I don't say you are wrong i only want to know this hadieth.

What i know for sure is that it's very recommended to begin with Praising Allah.

wassalmeolaikoem warahmatullahi wbaralkatuh,

Imad
 

Noor to shine

Junior Member
:salam2: sister
I think that this exactly what shaytan wants from people that we call creatures not our creator and our hearts be binded to creatures not the creator ...Quran is very clear and strict that nothing is comparable to Allah swt and none is like Allah swt .....no prophet ...no angle ....and this is how the previous messages of Allah swt was ruined by Shaytan ....so be careful sister don`t let such ideas spoil your pure faith: La Ellah Ella Allah ....No God but Allah everything else is just his creatures.
WA Assalam
 

oumyaquine

Fière de ma religion
:salam2: I agree with you,you're right
:salam2:

there is actually difference in opinions between the salafi and the ahli sunna...
The best way to know this is to read books written by the tabi tabi7in...specifically Imam Hanafi RA:)
 
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