"NO" to dogs????????

faaraa

Nothing but Muslimah
:salam2:

From my child hood I was taught that YOU CAN NEVER TOUCH OR PLAY WITH A PUPPY OR A DOG....

To today I had to go out side and I saw some cute lil puppies ... on a lane and felt like touching them...

But I stopped my self from approaching them as I was not sure about this issue..

ARE DOGS REALLY UGLY????

ARE THEY REALLY HARAAM?????

When dogs do a lot of helps to human beings.. why is it prohibited???

PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ help me to find the answers... INSHA ALLAH

Take care every one !!!
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
salam alaikum

It is prohibited to keep them in home, you can easily put them in your yard/garden.
no problem in touching, you can touch them.

but the saliva of dog is najis, so if you find the dog wet(it cleans its body with its tounge), your wudhu will be gone, otherwise there is no problem.

that what I know

Allah knows the best
wassalamu alaikum
 

fatima1994

ƒ3!RY $p!r!T
umm well nobody ever said to me dont touch em cuz im afraid of dogs :D :lol:
so i dun even come near em :p
but about ur Q ummmmm wha can i say i dont find dogs cute as im a cat lover hehe :D
well its not allowed in islam to keep dogs unless its for hunting or for security purposes. U cant keep em as pets cuz they are unclean and stuff...
maybe others can tell better?

:wasalam:
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
Assalamu`alaykum
The Prophet (peace be upon him) forbade keeping dogs as well as selling and buying them.

Ibn Qudâmah said in his book al-Mughnî (volume 4 page 281): “It is unlawful to keep dogs for other purposes than hunting, herding or farming”.

Therefore, a Muslim may not keep a dog except for a dire need such as protection if one’s house in a remote place away from other people. If a blind person needs to have a dog as a guide or for protection, then that would also be permissible.

A Muslim should not play with dogs. The saliva of a dog is impure (najas). The way to remove this impurity is to wash the affected are seven times, one time with dirt. It does not matter whether the contaminated area is a dish, an article of clothing, or the skin. A person who comes in contact with the saliva of a dog must purify the affected area correctly in order for him to be able to perform prayers.
 

Seeker-of-truth

Junior Member
dogs are disgusting I heard they have something in their saliva that is filthier than its excretion. If you saw a cute little puppy you wouldnt go and play with its excretion, why would you touch its skin that has been licked all over by the tongue?
 

xAllahKnowsBestx

Junior Member
salam alaikum

It is prohibited to keep them in home, you can easily put them in your yard/garden.
no problem in touching, you can touch them.

but the saliva of dog is najis, so if you find the dog wet(it cleans its body with its tounge), your wudhu will be gone, otherwise there is no problem.

that what I know

Allah knows the best
wassalamu alaikum

Walaikum assalam.

So is it okay to touch a dog if it's not wet and if you're not really going to be touching it's saliva..? :\ I was always taught not to touch dogs no matter wat, not even to go near them.
 

dna1987

Muslim Guy
I recently learnt in class that the bite of the following creatures is more severe in the following order (least severe to worst):

1. dog
2. human
3. cat

This is based on the treatment required at hospital. I was surprised to learn that a bite from a human (or in more cases, a "fight where a punch collides with a person's tooth resulting in a cut hand" as the tutor mentioned) puts a person at greater risk to severer infections than one from a dog.

Also, cats definitely clean themselves with their tongue. I've had three pet cats in my life. Once, my cat had four kittens too. I thought they were cleaner because they cleaned themselves all over with their tongue, and dogs didn't.
 

Sally A

Junior Member
Salamou Alaykom,
mmm.... I don't think so because there is no actual proof neither in the coran or in a hadith that talks about dogs...even some peopole say that we can because for example in souret al'kahf I think aya 21 not sure they say that there was 3 peopole and the fourth the dog, then they say that other pretend that it was 5 and the sixth the dog and other say that they were 7 the eighth the dog, so there was an actual "DOG PRESENCE" with the peopole......and let say you hunt animals usually in the old times they use to hunt with dogs, well when they go get the killed animal its always the dog who do so...and how the dog picks it up??.....yuuupp with his mouth so his saliva go on it but we still eat it.....ok some say that because dogs are carnivors so they swet by their mouth thats true...but its the same with cats...so if the dog is haram because of that all the canins and felins should be haram..........you have to admit that I got a point!

but if anyone have any hadith plz share....
 

Brandi

Junior Member
Salaam alaikum!

I personally think all animals are nasty. Think about it- they lick they private parts after 'using it'. And then they lick their fur, well except their head.. unless they are a giraffe w/ a really long tongue lol. But then you pet their hair-the same hair they licked with the same tongue they used to lick 'you know what'... But that's the way I see it... and I was raised up with all kind of animals growing up... I like animals but not in my house. lol But yes, I'll pet animals, but you better believe I'll wash my hands after handling them!

But I did have a question about this. I'm a new convert/revert... and I was wondering why dogs are haraam? And also, are cats and other animals like birds are too?

Wasalaam
 

Sally A

Junior Member
Salaam alaikum!

I personally think all animals are nasty. Think about it- they lick they private parts after 'using it'. And then they lick their fur, well except their head.. unless they are a giraffe w/ a really long tongue lol. But then you pet their hair-the same hair they licked with the same tongue they used to lick 'you know what'... But that's the way I see it... and I was raised up with all kind of animals growing up... I like animals but not in my house. lol But yes, I'll pet animals, but you better believe I'll wash my hands after handling them!

But I did have a question about this. I'm a new convert/revert... and I was wondering why dogs are haraam? And also, are cats and other animals like birds are too?

Wasalaam

Personally I don't think that any of the animals are haram because why do you think god created them if they are truly haram...yes for a test but for example the animals with nails such as rats are haram to eat but not to handle...the pig haram to eat but not haram to touch(but better not (ful of desies and nasty)

but almost everyone have an answer because there is no sure source that proofs this...even in the souret al'khaf there is a dog with some peopole so why would there be one if its haram...
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
I recently learnt in class that the bite of the following creatures is more severe in the following order (least severe to worst):

1. dog
2. human
3. cat

This is based on the treatment required at hospital. I was surprised to learn that a bite from a human (or in more cases, a "fight where a punch collides with a person's tooth resulting in a cut hand" as the tutor mentioned) puts a person at greater risk to severer infections than one from a dog.

Also, cats definitely clean themselves with their tongue. I've had three pet cats in my life. Once, my cat had four kittens too. I thought they were cleaner because they cleaned themselves all over with their tongue, and dogs didn't.

Assalamu`alaykum

Yes cats are the cleanest animals in the world I have 5 cats. They are not naajis.
As for dog saliva I heard from a Scholar that even if you burn its saliva there still remains some bacteria in it.
 

ShahnazZ

Striving2BeAStranger
The responses here are disturbing.

I have no idea why so many Muslims are scared of dogs. Yes, it's haram to keep them without an Islamically legitimate reason but to go as far so as to describe them as the scum of the earth is truly deplorable. Dogs are some of the most loveable and most loyal animals out there. They are fiercely protective as well and have been known to save lives. If there were no beneficial qualities about them, there wouldn't be leeway about keeping them as pets if the situation falls within Islamically specific conditions. As for regarding it with such a lack of compassion, recall the Hadith where a prostitute gave a thirsty dog some water. She didn't reel with disgust or hide behind a corner. Nor did Allah Subhanu wa Ta'ala punish her for aiding an animal that was prohibited. Instead He FORGAVE all her sins for simply giving that dog a drink of water. So much for a filthy creature huh?

Unlike the responses posted in this thread, I for one love dogs, think they're absolutely adorable and love to play with them. In fact, growing up, I always used to beg my parents for one. After my mother explained to me that it was haram, I asked her why? I was sad that something so adorable was haram. My mother's response to me wasn't an impertinent "oh its filthy and disgusting so it should be haram" as most of the parents I've come across from the Subcontinent. Instead, she gently told a crushed 7-year old me that perhaps it was just another test from Allah Subhanu wa Ta'ala to prohibit for us something that was so adorable to see if we would follow the rules and abstain from it. Of course, after playing with them, if I come into contact with it's saliva, I usually change my clothes and end up making wudu again. In fact, because Pakistanis have this wrong belief that simply touching a dog leads to impurity, I was pretty much redoing my wudu after petting it just once!

The point is yes, Islam dictates that the saliva of dogS is naajis and that angels will not enter a home with them due to it being an impure animal. But to curse at it and treat it as if it's scum? That's tunnel vision people. A lack of compassion. As it's haram, just don't keep it. It's a simple animal. If you don't like it, leave it alone. We need to hold onto our humanity as it's what makes us HUMAN. Allah Subhanu wa Ta'ala made man His caliph on earth, to take care of His earth and His creatures. In the end, it is He who provides for them but by doing what we can, we earn small merits for ourselves. Want to know the reward for planting a tree? Look it up.

Giving a thirsty dog absolved a sinner of her sins. What will hurting one do? Oh wait, look up the Hadith for the woman who abused a cat and maybe that might shed some insight.
 

faaraa

Nothing but Muslimah
Salamou Alaykom,
.and let say you hunt animals usually in the old times they use to hunt with dogs, well when they go get the killed animal its always the dog who do so...and how the dog picks it up??.....yuuupp with his mouth so his saliva go on it but we still eat it.....

but if anyone have any hadith plz share....

:wasalam:

But I have heard that the flesh which was hunted by the dogs can never be consumed..

ALLAH AZZAWAJAL knows the best..

Can any one post related hadeeth and a clear view on this plzzz???
 

Ahsen

Junior Member
Here,in arab states people use dogs to hunt for rabbits etc.And they train the dog to catch the animal only by his neck.And they eat it.

I read about it that it's ok to eat something that is hunted by the dog.
 

dna1987

Muslim Guy
Assalamu`alaykum

Yes cats are the cleanest animals in the world I have 5 cats. They are not naajis.
As for dog saliva I heard from a Scholar that even if you burn its saliva there still remains some bacteria in it.

Walaikum Assalam.

My point about cats licking themselves clean was in response to the brother who posted "dogs lick themselves all over, that's disgusting".

Anyways, was that a scholar of religion or a scholar of microbiology or a scholar of veterinarian sciences? If it's true, then it might be true for burnt saliva from all animals. Humans have bacteria in their mouth as well. Good bacteria is important to have in our bodies, because if we don't have them, then the bad bacteria can take over can cause heaps of diseases.
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
Walaikum Assalam.

My point about cats licking themselves clean was in response to the brother who posted "dogs lick themselves all over, that's disgusting".

Anyways, was that a scholar of religion or a scholar of microbiology or a scholar of veterinarian sciences? If it's true, then it might be true for burnt saliva from all animals. Humans have bacteria in their mouth as well. Good bacteria is important to have in our bodies, because if we don't have them, then the bad bacteria can take over can cause heaps of diseases.

Assalamu`alaykum

He is a scholar from Masjid Al Haram.
 

xAllahKnowsBestx

Junior Member
Uhh.. so apparently touching a dog doesn't nullify wudoo' unless it's wet...? I grew up with people saying dogs are nasty, gross, ugly, and never touch or go near a dog. :\
 

znas10

New Member
Keeping a dog, touching it and kissing it
Keeping a dog is najis & - If a muslim man keep dog just to guard the house, outside the house - put the dog at the end of the compound, how should he cleans himself, what if he cannot find any earth or mud to clean himself, is there other alternative way of cleaning himself? [sometime, he take the dog for jogging, pat the dog, kiss the dog etc] .


Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

Islam forbids Muslims to keep dogs, and the punishment for that is that the one who does that loses one or two qiraats from his hasanaat (good deeds) each day. An exception has been made in the case of keeping dogs for hunting, guarding livestock and guarding crops.

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog, except a dog for herding, hunting or farming, one qiraat will be deducted from his reward each day.” Narrated by Muslim, 1575.

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog, except a dog for herding livestock or a dog that is trained for hunting, two qiraats will be deducted from his reward each day.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5163; Muslim, 1574.

Is it permissible to keep a dog to guard houses?

Al-Nawawi said:

There is a difference of opinion as to whether it is permissible to keep dogs for purposes other than these three, such as for guarding houses and roads. The most correct view is that it is permissible, by analogy with these three and based on the reason that is to be understood from the hadeeth, which is necessity. End quote.

Sharh Muslim, 10/236

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Based on this, if a house is in the middle of the city there is no need to keep a dog to guard it, so keeping a dog for this purpose in such situations is haraam and is not permitted, and it detracts one or two qiraats from a person’s reward every day. They should get rid of this dog and not keep it. But if the house is in the countryside and there is no one else around, then it is permissible to keep a dog to guard the house and the people who are in it; guarding the members of the household is more important than guarding livestock or crops. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 4/246

There are several scholarly views about reconciling the reports which say “one qiraat” and those which say “two qiraats”.

Al-Haafiz al-‘Ayni (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

(a) It may be that they have to do with two types of dogs, one of which could cause more harm than the other.

(b) It was said that “two qiraats” applies in cities and villages, and “one qiraat” applies in the countryside.

(c) It was said that they were said at two different times – “one qiraat” was mentioned first, then the warning was made more strict and two qiraats were mentioned.

‘Umdat al-Qaari, 12/158.

Secondly:

With regard to the words of the questioner, “keeping a dog is naajis”. This is not exactly correct, because the najaasah (impurity) is not in the dog itself, rather it is in its saliva when it drinks from a vessel. If a person touches a dog or a dog touches him, that does not mean that he has to purify himself, whether with soil or water. But if a dog drinks from his vessel, then he has to throw away the water and wash it seven times with water and the eighth time with soil, if he wants to use it. If he makes it just for the dog then he does not have to purify it.

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The purification of the vessel of one of you, if a dog licks it, is to wash it seven times, the first time with soil.” Nararted by Muslim, 279.

And according to another report by Muslim (280): “If a dog licks the vessel of one of you, let him wash it seven times and rub it with soil the eighth time.”

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

With regard to dogs, there are three views among the scholars:

1 – That they are taahir (pure), even their saliva. This is the view of Maalik.

2 – That they are naajis (impure), even their hair. This is the view of al-Shaafa’i and is one of the two views narrated from Ahmad.

3 – Their hair is taahir but their saliva is naajis. This is the view of Abu Haneefah and of Ahmad in the other report narrated from him.

This is the most correct view. So if the wetness of the dog’s hair gets onto one’s garment or body, that does not make it naajis. End quote.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 21/530.

Elsewhere he said:

That is because the basic principle is that substances are taahir, and it is not permissible to regard anything as naajis or haraam without evidence, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“while He has explained to you in detail what is forbidden to you, except under compulsion of necessity?”

[al-An’aam 6:119]

“And Allaah will never lead a people astray after He has guided them until He makes clear to them as to what they should avoid”

[al-Tawbah 9:115]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The purification of the vessel of one of you, if a dog licks it, is to wash it seven times, the first time with soil” – and in another hadeeth, “If a dog licks a vessel…” All of the ahaadeeth mention licking only; they do not mention any other part of the dog, regarding them as naajis is based only on analogy.

Moreover, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) granted a concession allowing people to keep dogs for hunting, herding and farming. The one who keeps them must touch the wetness of their hair, just as happens in the case of mules, donkeys, etc. To suggest that their hair is naajis when touching them cannot be avoided could impose undue hardship, which is not what the Lawgiver intended for this ummah.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 21/217, 218

To be on the safe side it is better, if a person touches a dog and there is something wet on his hand, or if there is something wet on the dog, to wash his hand seven times, one of which should be with soil. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:

With regard to touching this dog, if there is no wetness then it does not make the hand naajis, but if he touches it and there is any wetness, then this means that the hand becomes naajis according to the view of many scholars, and the hand must be washed after that seven times, one of which should be with soil. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 11/246.

Thirdly:

With regard to the way in which purification from the najaasah of a dog is to be done, this has been explained in the answer to question no. 41090 and 46314.

What must be done is to wash off the najaasah of a dog seven times, one of which should be with soil. If soil is available then it must be used, and nothing else will do. If no soil is available, then there is nothing wrong with using some other cleaning agent such as soap.

Fourthly:

What the questioner mentions about kissing the dog is something that causes many diseases. The diseases that people may get as the result of going against sharee’ah by kissing dogs or drinking from their vessels before purifying them are many, such as pasturella which is a bacterial disease, the cause of which exists naturally in the respiratory systems of humans and animals, but under certain circumstances this germ can invade the body and cause disease.

Another of these diseases is a parasitic disease that affects the intestines of humans and animals, and usually affects the liver and lungs, the abdominal cavity and the rest of the body.

This disease is caused by tapeworms, which are small worms 2-9 millimeters long, which are formed of three sections, a head and a neck; the head has four suckers.

The adult worms live in the intestines of their hosts, such as dogs, cats, crows and wolves.

This disease is transmitted to human who love dogs, when they kiss them or drink from their vessels.

See: Amraad al-hayawaanaat allati tuseeb al-insaan (Animal diseases that affect humans) by Dr. ‘Ali Ismaa’eel ‘Ubayd al-Snaafi.

Conclusion:

It is not permissible to keep dogs except for hunting or guarding livestock and crops, and it is permissible to keep them for guarding houses so long as that is outside the city and that there is no other means of guarding the house. The Muslim should not imitate the kuffaar by running with the dog or touching its mouth and kissing it, which causes many diseases.

Praise be to Allaah for this pure and perfect sharee’ah, which came to set people’s spiritual and worldly affairs straight, but most people do not realize.

And Allaah knows best.


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