Question: Was revolting against Gaddafi legitimate according to Islam?

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  1. esperanza
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    exactly ..your far from libya and africa im sure and maybe you dont even know libyans personally....
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    And the rebels are the saviors you claim them to be? ....


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG0Qt6cebkw (the rebels from Benghazi burned a man,cut off his head, arms and legs, rip off his heart, and played with it, while cheering, in the middle of the day on a square in Benghazi (Libya)… this was before Gadaffi even started fighting with them .. 18+)

    http://www.facebook.com/video/video....38411&comments (rebels beheading a man.. ‘democracy seekers’.. yeah sure.. 18+)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ip1s...ipcontrinter=1 (some more of ‘democratic’ beheadings .. 18+)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beOh_...has_verified=1 (please note, all these videos are very grafic, 18+)

    http://nao-bum.ru/libyan-war/cut_off_the_head.mp4 (18+)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IGM6...ipcontrinter=1 (18+ , this is the most horrible video in the world.. the rebels in Misurata enpaled this child with 2m long pins, from his genitalia, to his shoulder)

    and you are in libya? oh wait your in saudi, so who do you know personally in libyan huh?
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    I was also in Misrata and if you want to belive every thing on You Tube you are entitaled to but I will not bother to keep answering you as you do not know what you are talking about inshallah Allah talaa will guide you to the truth and also this post will be closed so you cant spread this rubbish ,
    w/salams
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    A picture is worth a 1000 words and videos even more. You just have one side of the story you are telling us. Don't go condemning others because they don't believer everything you say. Yes, i'm sure there is truth in your story but those videos are also not just mere "propaganda" and "lies"...

    And what truth are you talking about? your version?

    and why should these posts be deleted just because you disagree with them?
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    the story of the child impaled on railings... iheard the reporter who was witness to that event and the doxtor..this was not rebles..but gadaffis people....you are the one beliving propogaNDA,,, how can you doubt someone who lives there and witnessed it ..when you are far away,,, idont wish to argue with you ,,,, but
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    maybe you believe assads propoganda too ..that noone is dying in syria..where people are even shot in the mosques....
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    Like i said before, I don't think the rulers are saints and i think they all should be shot. So don't assume i believe their stuff and taking sides with them.
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    so why criticise those standing up against corrupt leaders
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    Don't get me wrong, i do support those who want change. But that doesn't mean i'll just believe or listen to one side story and think all "rebels" were the actual people and don't have shaytans among them doing things no different than what gaddafi's "loyalists" are accused of.
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    of ourse we cant sya hundred percent of rebels are good,,,but compared with gadaffis soldiers..and they were fighting for freedom and dignity and peace
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    yes im in saudi...and yes iknow many libyans well..do u evven know one????
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    and yet knowing them cannot negate the videos i shared.
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    Hi Islamirana,

    I had a look at the video you shared with us. It was a nice song to listen to. And on the background there are some selected pictures from different parts of Libya at different times over the last 8 months. You do not know which photo belongs to which time. you have not spoken to the people on the ground. There are no journalists to listen to their insights and experience at the given event and time. We did not hear any one of those people speak.

    In Islam, there is a science called the science of Hadeeth. This science developed a criteria to sort out the weak hadeeth from the authentic hadeeth. One of those criteria is how many people can say the same information that give the same meaning or understanding. So if you are told something by 10 different people, and those different people never met before and they tell you the same thing, then there is a big chance they are not lying. So how many journalists, or correspondents from different TV channels have you listen to? So now you have rendered 10s of TV news reports invalid because of this video which is not attributed to anyone.
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    The Angels of Liberty criticised in Libya

    Let's face it folks.

    Revolution is a sacred enterprise. Revolutionaries are not humans, they are Angels and therefore, unable to do wrong...Unable to kill, torture, mutilate or rape.

    Indeed.

    They live their lives to protect and defend...Liberty. They follow the teachings of the Prophet of International Communism: Karl Marx. Or is it Friedrich Engels? But, does it matter?! They themselves weren't Communists...

    Stop criticizing the Angels of Liberty! The purveyors of Heaven on Earth! The masses are about to witness a new Utopia: The People's Republic of Libya.

    The thing with pro-Kaddafi people is that they're having Mass Hallucination Syndrome. Nothing else. Why do they think they're hated by anybody, why do they think they are targets of Mass Revenge Vicious Activity?! They think, they're killed, tortured and mutilated, but it's definitely not true! This must be the truth. If it's not, we happen to be in big trouble now...

    The opposite would mean that the Angels of Liberty are actually...outright terrorists, just like their 'enemies'. No utopia, no angels no nothing. And the people who are having Mass Hallucination Syndrome are actually...us.

    Assalaam.
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    :salam2:

    On a side note:

    Apart from the topic of argument, what I observe is that whenever it is in the US's interest to invade then many fatwas are issued legitimizing the invasion and the people who rebel against that are called terrorists.

    *This is not related to the above argument.
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    Assalamu alaykum

    I think it is time that this thread be closed.

    Wasalamu alaykum
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