Assalamu Alaikum brother Raihan,
In post #44 of this thread [on page number 5], you posted a number of Biblical verses that show the violence shown in the Bible. I thank you for your effort.
However, many of the verses you either contain commandments found in Islam, or they're quoted out of context. I do
not meant to say that you did that on purpose.
And since it's necessary -when pointing out to Jews and Christians some Biblical verses we Muslims object to- that we only quote verses that do not contain commandments found in Islam and that we also quote verses in context, I'll mention some objections to some of the verses you quoted on post #44.
1- You wrote the following:
" They fought against Midian; as the LORD commanded Moses, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." [Numbers 31:7, 17-18]
A_Kashmiri quoted the same verse and another verse from the Book of Numbers allowing the victors to keep virgins. Please read his post #37 [on page number 4] and then read my post #71 [on page number 8].
2- You wrote the following:
Jesus says: "But those mine enemies which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." [Luke 19:27]
When verse 27 of chapter 19 of the Gospel of Luke is read on its own, it gives the impression that Jesus [peace be upon him] -in the belief of Christians- ordered the death of all those who do not believe that he should reign over them.
However, that's just not the case. That verse has been quoted out of context.
Let's read the relevant verses of chapter 19 of the Gospel of Luke, and I'll set verse 27 in bold type and colour it red,
like so:
And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house because this man too is a descendant of Abraham. For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save what was lost." While they were listening to him speak, he proceeded to tell a parable because he was near Jerusalem and they thought that the kingdom of God would appear there immediately. So he said, "A nobleman went off to a distant country to obtain the kingship for himself and then to return. He called ten of his servants and gave them ten gold coins 5 and told them, 'Engage in trade with these until I return.' His fellow citizens, however, despised him and sent a delegation after him to announce, 'We do not want this man to be our king.' But when he returned after obtaining the kingship, he had the servants called, to whom he had given the money, to learn what they had gained by trading. The first came forward and said, 'Sir, your gold coin has earned ten additional ones.' He replied, 'Well done, good servant! You have been faithful in this very small matter; take charge of ten cities.' Then the second came and reported, 'Your gold coin, sir, has earned five more.' And to this servant too he said, 'You, take charge of five cities.' Then the other servant came and said, 'Sir, here is your gold coin; I kept it stored away in a handkerchief, for I was afraid of you, because you are a demanding person; you take up what you did not lay down and you harvest what you did not plant.' He said to him, 'With your own words I shall condemn you, you wicked servant. You knew I was a demanding person, taking up what I did not lay down and harvesting what I did not plant; why did you not put my money in a bank? Then on my return I would have collected it with interest.' And to those standing by he said, 'Take the gold coin from him and give it to the servant who has ten.' But they said to him, 'Sir, he has ten gold coins.' 'I tell you, to everyone who has, more will be given, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me.'" After he had said this, he proceeded on his journey up to Jerusalem.
Luke 19:9-28 (New American Bible)
I think it's very clear now that when -according to Christians' belief- Jesus [peace be upon him] said, "Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me", he was
not talking about himself and the earthly punishment to be implemented on those who do not believe in him. Jesus -according to the belief of Christians- was quoting the King in the parable he mentioned.
By quoting verse 27 of chapter 19 of the Gospel of Luke out of context, the whole meaning was changed.
Therefore, every Muslim must be very careful to make sure that all verses he or she uses in debates with Jews or Christians are in context.
3- You wrote the following:
Jesus says: "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." [John 15:6]
Yet again, this supposed saying of Jesus [peace be upon him] is quoted out of context. I'll post the relevant verses of chapter 15 of the Gospel of John, and I'll set verse 6 in bold type and colour it red,
like so:
Remain in me, as I remain in you. Just as a branch cannot bear fruit on its own unless it remains on the vine, so neither can you unless you remain in me. I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me and I in him will bear much fruit, because without me you can do nothing. Anyone who does not remain in me will be thrown out like a branch and wither; people will gather them and throw them into a fire and they will be burned.
John 15:4-6 (New American Bible)
Here, Jesus [peace be upon him] supposedly likens himself to a vine and the other people to branches. He shows what happens to branches that fall off the vine. Therefore, we should
not understand that Jesus supposedly ordered the burning of those who do not believe in him.
4- You wrote the following:
The death of innocent people in the Bible:
“If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman MUST DIE.” [Deuteronomy 22:22]
"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death." [Leviticus 20:10]
How can we Muslims object to the above Biblical verses? In Islam, if a married man or a married woman has illegal sexual intercourse, then the punishment is stoning to death.
Therefore, the above two Biblical passages could
not be used against Jews and Christians
except in one case; if they attack Islam for the way adulterers are punished, then we could use these two passages to show them that this punishment is also found in Judaism and Christianity.
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Now, I come to a problem. Most of the Biblical passages quoted in your post #44 cannot -in my opinion- be used against Jews and Christians.
Initially, I wanted to make a detailed analysis of all the verses, just like the four examples I mentioned above. However, I saw the task was daunting, and I started to get lazy.
Therefore, I asked myself if it would be better to post my concerns only after I have completely analyzed all the Biblical verses mentioned in post #44 [even though that may take a very long time, and I may even not finish this task] or was it better to post a few examples of quoting Biblical verses that contain commandments of Islam and Biblical verses quoted out of context, and post a general warning about the other Biblical verses?
I believe the second option, although not perfect, is better than the first.
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Again, brother Raihan, please do not view this post of mine as an attack on you. You are my brother in Islam, and this post of mine is just a sincere piece of advice.
And if you think that I believe no good came from your post #44, then you're wrong. I found two Biblical passages worth mentioning, and you'll find them highlighted by myself in my next post on this thread.
Best regards,
Bluegazer