To the Women-How do you know about slavery and be a muslim?

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zbhotto

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Why dont you ask Jakri Naik

Allah is everwhere is His Knowledge, power. If in Arabic grammer cannot be fitted by English. Why are you lieing you are a muslim. Dare to ask Dr. Jakri Naik.

Stop this nonsense. Either this Guy is SHIA who dont believe in Koran, or a christian.

Stop wasting time with him.
 
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thesearcher

Junior Member
im not a shia and i am not a christian,

dude this is a serious issue, and this is the position of ahl-al-sunnah wal jamaa

the shia believe that when allah describes himself with hands and a face they take it figuratively

ok
on the subject of sex with slaves this is my conclusion
i don't have all the wisdom on why, and i know some of the wisdom, but whatever allah sais goes

but I want to stick on this issue zbhotto

then tell me zbhotto do you think that the quran should be read figuratively?
 
IslamIsLight

IslamIsLight

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So you are a Muslim ,and you just doubting your religion because of the slavery issue ?
Or you just completely do not accept the Sunnah of the Prophet peace be upon him and rejecting ahadith ?Or you just happened to be Muslim by name and you want sincerely learn about your religion ?
If you are sincere ,then May Allah guide you to the truth and remove all the doubts from your heart ...
 
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zbhotto

Banned
THis is not shirk

HINDUS belives GOD is inside all of his creations. Since Allah says He is all knowing, ALL watchinng, ALL hearing, it is implied He is everwhere in his order, command, power, knodledge but it does never mean He is inside everything. This is not shirk
 
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thesearcher

Junior Member
to aisha no, i don't doubt all of the sunnah, it just this slavery issue always comes back to me and i have spend hours and hours and hours researching it looking for the missing link, but so far i have found none,i went on chat rooms, and some people were straight up with me and were honest, and others avoided this subject or were not knowledgable, and after seeing fatawah from islamqa and how reputable they are, then i just gave up and they gave their evidences, so i from time to time i just wake up and this slave girl issue is the first thing on my mind and i picture myself being the slave girl, but no im not apostating or anything, i just have some doubts in this issue

to zbhotto, if you believe allah is everywhere do you believe he is in you?
 
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zbhotto

Banned
I dont like to talk more.

I am from Canada. I cannot read Arabic. I listen to the lectures in youtubeislam.com. I strongly believe if any doubt comes in my mind it is because I dont know the correct perspective, incident upon which Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has said something or a certain verse of Quoran is revealed. Everydound that had in my mind had beeb gradually removed. I became to learn ISLAM beacuse fo the christain propaganda against ISLAM. ANd I am very proud. happy to be muslim.

What I know ISLAM is the only one religon that allows freedom to question and answer. I like it and no other religon allows it.


To me ISLAM is the truth. If something appears uncomfortable to me then surelly It is taste for me. Moreover, it was partly designed by ALLAH (SWT) in his Koran so that SATAN's followers could survive.

I beg Allah's forgiveness, if I misinform anyone about Hadith's/Koran due to my ignorance.
 
IslamIsLight

IslamIsLight

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zbhotto said:
HINDUS belives GOD is inside all of his creations. Since Allah says He is all knowing, ALL watchinng, ALL hearing, it is implied He is everwhere in his order, command, power, knodledge but it does never mean He is inside everything. This is not shirk
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salam aleikum
Allah is not inside His creation ...
I will come back with more information inshaAllah ,you can watch this video for now ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdrg3im-wMI&feature=related
 
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zbhotto

Banned
A stupid Qustion

He is not inside me. But He is always in front of me watching what I am doing, hearing what I am talking, knowing what I would be able to do in future. If He commands me know to become water, He just would have to say "Be" and it is. If He wants me to become flame He just need to say "Be" and it is.

So yes, He is always in front of me, wathcing,hering, knowing.......and have the ability to command me to be according to His will. So Yes He is always always everywhere whereever I got, I hide , watching me, observing,, listening me.

Do you need more. If yes then absolutely you r foolish
 
BinteShafi

BinteShafi

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zbhotto said:
He is not inside me. But He is always in front of me watching what I am doing, hearing what I am talking, knowing what I would be able to do in future. If He commands me know to become water, He just would have to say "Be" and it is. If He wants me to become flame He just need to say "Be" and it is.

So yes, He is always in front of me, wathcing,hering, knowing.......and have the ability to command me to be according to His will. So Yes He is always always everywhere whereever I got, I hide , watching me, observing,, listening me.

Do you need more. If yes then absolutely you r foolish
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Allah is not everywhere- but is above His Throne & is close to us by His Knowledge

Praise be to Allaah.

It is proven in the Qur’aan and Sunnah and by the consensus (ijmaa’) of the salaf (early generations) of this ummah that Allaah is above His heavens on His Throne, and that He is the Exalted, Most High. He is Above all things, and there is nothing that is above Him. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allaah it is He Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). You (mankind) have none, besides Him, as a Wali (protector or helper) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember (or receive admonition)?”

[al-Sajdah 32:4]

“Surely, your Lord is Allaah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things [Yoonus 10:3]

“To Him ascend (all) the goodly words, and the righteous deeds exalt it (i.e. the goodly words are not accepted by Allaah unless and until they are followed by good deeds) [Faatir 35:10]

“He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him) and the Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him) [al-Hadeed 57:3]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “You are the Most High and there is nothing above You…”

There are many similar ayaat and ahaadeeth. But at the same time, Allaah tells us that He is with His slaves wherever they are:

“Have you not seen that Allaah knows whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is on the earth? There is no Najwa (secret counsel) of three but He is their fourth (with His Knowledge, while He Himself is over the Throne, over the seventh heaven), — nor of five but He is their sixth (with His Knowledge), — nor of less than that or more but He is with them (with His Knowledge) wheresoever they may be” [al-Mujaadilah 58:7]

Allaah has combined mention of His being above His Throne with mention of His being with His slaves in one aayah, where He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, and what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be [al-Hadeed 57:4]

Saying that Allaah is with us does not mean that He is mixed with (or dwells in) His creation; rather He is with His slaves by His knowledge. He is above His Throne and nothing is hidden from Him of what they do. With regard to the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And We are nearer to him than his jugular vein (by Our Knowledge)” [Qaaf 50:16]

- most of the mufassireen said that what is meant is that He is near by means of His angels whose task it is to record people’s deeds. And those who said that it means that He is near explained it as meaning that He is near by His knowledge, as is said concerning how He is with us.

This is the view of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, who affirm that Allaah is above His creation and that He is also with His slaves, and they state that He is far above dwelling in His created beings. With regard to the denial of all Divine attributes as voiced by the Jahamiyyah and their followers, they deny that His Essence is above His creatures and that He rose above His Throne, and they say that He is present in His Essence everywhere. We ask Allaah to guide the Muslims.


Shaykh Abd al-Rahmaan al-Barraak

ISLAMQA

PLS pls refer to the following link for more info

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56539
 
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zbhotto

Banned
Understood

Thank you. I told before that I dont know much about islalm. I also asked Allah's forgiveness if I misinformed someone.

The problem does not lies in me. The problem lies in the regulations of this site. It opnes the mouth of everybody either ignorant or shcolar. I am igonrant. So anyone like me should be be allowed to say anything about ISLAM.
 
BinteShafi

BinteShafi

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zbhotto said:
Thank you. I told before that I dont know much about islalm. I also asked Allah's forgiveness if I misinformed someone.

The problem does not lies in me. The problem lies in the regulations of this site. It opnes the mouth of everybody either ignorant or shcolar. I am igonrant. So anyone like me should be be allowed to say anything about ISLAM.
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Knowledge of all of us is very limited brother and we all are ignorant at some stage. I was also ignorant of this very important concept of Tawheed until very recently....until I read the book Fundamentals of tawheed and then I did my research.

I also used to say that "Allah is everywhere" (Astaghferullah)
 
IslamIsLight

IslamIsLight

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zbhotto said:
Thank you. I told before that I dont know much about islalm. I also asked Allah's forgiveness if I misinformed someone.

The problem does not lies in me. The problem lies in the regulations of this site. It opnes the mouth of everybody either ignorant or shcolar. I am igonrant. So anyone like me should be be allowed to say anything about ISLAM.
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salam aleikum
There is nothing wrong brother ..We all learning ..
jazakallah khair sister BintShafi for detailed information ..

waaleikum salam
 
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