US demands release of diplomat in Pakistan

arzafar

Junior Member
^^^ Im not sure about that. although this were to happen, there would be widespread celebrations in pakistan. A tv anchor asked one boy's (who was killed) mother live on tv whether she would forgive davis in return for money. she gave an emphatic NO. She added that she wants to see him hanged.

then the tv anchor asked whether she would let davis go if aafia is released to pakistan. her answer was an even more emphatic Yes!

Unbelievable really! even in the days of such selfishness you can find people who care for others. However, aafia's case is complicated because she is/was a US citizen. Many people forget that most vital point.

Any way today the ppp (govt majority party) spokesman said that Davis has immunity! Quite how she gave that verdict when the court decided otherwise is anybody's guess. It just goes to show the lack of respect for law that this current lot has. It is the most incompetent, corrupt and wort of the worst govt (or lack of it) i have ever known.

The former foreign minister shah mehmood qureshi was sacked from office due to right sizing measures and an apparent bust up with the zardari, president and chairman of ppp. the cabinet was reduced from 80+ down to 20+. Anyhow qureshi maintains that the foreign office records show that raymond davis is not a diplomat. Off course now that quesrshi is gone, the interior minister is on the case and he would be meddling with the foreign office records to set things 'straight'.

But i do believe that some good will come out of this case.
1) if davis is punished we might finally get rid of american support, presence and influence. certainly the level of interference would reduce hopefully.
2) if davis is released, the current US sponsored govt setup will fall down. in fact it will fall down eventually anyway because people are just fed up and very angry. All that is needed is a spark to set things in motion.
3) Davis maybe released in exchange of aafia and this make people very happy.

here is another interesting revelation about davis. It seems most of the international media missed it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ephone-contact-with-Islamic-terror-group.html
 

MalikBrother

Junior Member
^^^^
That threat is pretty lame. If pakistan wants, it can starve US forces to death. Everything from booze and condoms to food and armored vehicles for allied troops goes through pakistan.

Sadly, Pakistan is not strong yet. Remember, USA is still one of the strongest arm forces in the whole world, and that doesn't change the fact that the divided among Muslim countries is what allowed USA to tackle those countries, and destabilized those countries. The only solution i see for Pakistan is recover, must be heavily rely on Taliban from Afghanistan-Pakistan to keep USA soldiers on backseat for a while. Eventually, USA will be forced to leave Afghanistan, and hence, the improvement of both Pakistan-Afghanistan will start to begin.

Despite of what Pakistan arm forces, is still not enough to stand up against USA. I might be wrong considering the history that small forces who fought for ALLAAH (SWT) always managed to beat large forces in the past, and who knows history will repeat itself.

And yeah, Pakistan is largely responsible for what is happening to both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Let's pray for decrease of corruption in Pakistan, and therefore, Pakistan can bounce back so strong.
 

arzafar

Junior Member
^^^
cmon bro pakistan actually has nuclear deterrence, it is not that easy to take pakistan on. that is why the enemies use dirty tactics like getting one province to fight against the other and civil war. We only need to put trust in Allah (swt) instead of thinking where we are going to get money if US withdraws its aid.

The answer is that we already have mountains of gold and copper deposits and more energy stored in coal reserves than all of saudia's oil reserves. We also have rivers and plenty of waterfalls to create hydro electricity and this is apart from solar and wind. That gidani wind corridor alone is capable of producing some 50000 MW electricity. This is off course apart from the nuclear energy capability we already have. But what do the rulers do? they arrest the scientist who gave us nuclear deterrence.

Not to mention that millions of doctors, engineers and businessmen who fled the corrupt pakistani system would be willing to come back if they see an honest ruler.

The only people who need and depend on american/foreign aid are the corrupt rulers whose families are abroad, who put their money and property abroad, who dont pay taxes and who basically have no interest in pakistan and would be gone by next morning if there was to be a war. They dont want the people to get education and succeed because if they do, the rulers would become jobless.
 

MalikBrother

Junior Member
^ You just fit my description entirely accurate, and like i said, the day corrupt dies in Pakistan, the improvement of system will begin, and that will strengthen Pakistan the nation. Despite of Pakistan arm forces is, one must consider the possibility of bankrupt knowing that the same country you consider the strong enough enough to stand up against USA, is actually heavily relying on USA for financial reasons to survive.

The day corruption dies, and the unity among Muslim countries with each other get stronger, USA will become weak without war as these Muslim countries need to make sure they will be there for each other for economic, financial, physicial support rather than rely on USA dollars to survive. Until then, the among Muslim countries are divided, and corruption is every Muslim countries let alone Pakistan, and ALLAAH (SWT) never help the country that misuse for wrong reasons, and corruption is certainly not gonna help the Muslim nations at all.

Pakistan is technically weak in every department except Pakistan forces, and corruption/bribe/outdated system are certainly not helping either. Pray that those dies quickly before it's too late.

If the sytem is improved, everyone who reside outside of Pakistan would be back to invest/support/expertise, for greater good.
 

MalikBrother

Junior Member
^ It's more like prime minister of Pakistan is pressurizing the Judge court and Police department to free him after the meeting with USA as one of their in charge of operating - more like you may call bribe. So far, Judge court and Police have been strict against the decision of PM of Pakistan, and they are doing their best to make sure the justice prevail. Finally, there is little hope for nation in spite of corrupt leader. Kudo to Police department and Judge. I didn't expect that all.

Sooner or later, he is bound to be free considering the fact that the nation is still leading by corrupt leader. Failing to grasp the fact that the nation chose to vote for criminal who just got out of jail, already been voted to lead the nation by the nation. That does show Pakistan is not ready to adapt Shariah Law yet, and however, we gotta admire the fact that Police and Judge court are doing their jobs which is surprisingly new for us, and we appreciate their honest efforts, and May ALLAAH (SWT) supports them to succeed at making sure that the justice prevail, Ameen!

I noticed that ever since the arrest of this man, so far there has been no drone lately. That's good signs. Few days of peace in Pakistan for a while, and i hope that stays remain for a while and permanent would be good news for Pakistan as the nation is indeed in desperate for peace and harmony and so is Palestine/Kashmir/Middle East.
 

MalikBrother

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Probe finds connection between Davis, drone attacks

Sources have revealed that a GPS chip recovered from Davis was being used in identifying targets for drone attacks in the tribal region.

It was also learnt during the probe that Davis made upto 12 visits to the tribal areas without informing Pakistani officials.

The 36- year-old US official was reluctant in giving out information about his visits to the tribal region, sources added.

The US Embassy officials were exerting pressure on the authorities, asking them not to expose the information received from Davis.

Meanwhile, the Punjab government has shared the investigation and the possessions recovered from Davis with the federal government, said sources.


http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/18/probe-finds-connection-between-davis-drone-attacks.html
 

MalikBrother

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KARACHI: Investigation teams were astonished to learn about Raymond Davis’s alleged connections in North Waziristan, sources told DawnNews.

Sources have revealed that a GPS chip recovered from Davis was being used in identifying targets for drone attacks in the tribal region.

It was also learnt during the probe that Davis made upto 12 visits to the tribal areas without informing Pakistani officials.

The 36- year-old US official was reluctant in giving out information about his visits to the tribal region, sources added.

The US Embassy officials were exerting pressure on the authorities, asking them not to expose the information received from Davis.

Meanwhile, the Punjab government has shared the investigation and the possessions recovered from Davis with the federal government, said sources.


Source ; http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/18/probe-finds-connection-between-davis-drone-attacks.html
 

MalikBrother

Junior Member
THE UK's GUARDIAN CONFIRMS RAYMOND DAVIS IS A CIA AGENT

American who sparked diplomatic crisis over Lahore shooting was CIA spy | World news | The Guardian



The American who shot dead two men on a Lahore street, triggering a diplomatic crisis between Pakistan and the United States, is a CIA agent who was on assignment at the time of the incident.

Raymond Davis has been the subject of widespread speculation since he opened fire with a semi-automatic Glock pistol on the two men who had pulled up alongside his car at a red light on 25 January.

Pakistani authorities charged him with murder, but the Obama administration has insisted he is an "administrative and technical official" attached to its Lahore consulate and is entitled to diplomatic immunity.

Based on interviews in the US and Pakistan, the Guardian can confirm that the 36-year-old former special forces soldier is employed by the CIA. "It's beyond a shadow of a doubt," said a senior Pakistani intelligence official.

The revelation may complicate American efforts to free Davis, who says he acted in self-defence when he opened fire on two men, both of whom were carrying guns.

Pakistani prosecutors, who say the men were petty criminals trying to rob him at gunpoint, accuse the spy of using excessive force, getting out of his car to shoot one of them twice in the back as he ran away. The man's body was discovered 30 feet from his motorbike.

"It went way beyond what we define as self-defence. It was not commensurate with the threat," a senior police official involved in the case told the Guardian.

The Pakistani government is aware of Davis's CIA status yet has kept quiet in the face of immense American pressure to free him under the Vienna convention. Last week President Barack Obama described Davis as "our diplomat" and dispatched his chief diplomatic troubleshooter, Senator John Kerry, to Islamabad. Kerry returned home empty-handed.

Many Pakistanis are outraged at the idea of an armed American rampaging through their second largest city; some analysts have warned of Egyptian-style protests if Davis is released. The government, fearful of a furious public backlash, says it needs until 14 March to decide whether Davis enjoys immunity.

Outrage has been heightened by the death of a third man who was crushed by an American vehicle as it rushed to Davis's aid. Pakistani officials believe the vehicle's occupants were also CIA because they came from the same suburban house where Davis lived and were heavily armed.

The US refused Pakistani demands to interrogate the two men and on Sunday a senior Pakistani intelligence official said they had left the country. "They have flown the coop, they are already in America," he said.

ABC News reported that the men had the same diplomatic visa as Davis. It is not unusual for US intelligence officers, like their counterparts round the world, to carry diplomatic passports.

The US has engaged in an edgy public relations offensive to free Davis, accusing Pakistan of illegally detaining him and riding roughshod over international treaties. Angry politicians have proposed slashing Islamabad's $1.5bn (about £900m) annual aid; the state department repeatedly describes him as "a member of the administrative and technical staff of the US embassy in Islamabad".

But Washington's case is hobbled by its resounding silence on Davis's background and role. Davis served in the US special forces for 10 years before leaving in 2003 to become a private security contractor. A senior Pakistani official said he believed Davis worked with Xe, the controversial firm formerly known as Blackwater, before joining the CIA.

Pakistani suspicions about Davis's role were stoked by the equipment police confiscated from his car after the shooting: an unlicensed pistol, a long-range radio, a GPS device, an infrared torch and a camera with pictures of buildings around Lahore.

"This is not the work of a diplomat. He was doing espionage and surveillance activities," said the Punjab law minister, Rana Sanaullah, adding that he had "confirmation" that Davis was a CIA employee.

A number of US media outlets later learned about Davis's CIA role but have kept it under wraps at the request of the Obama administration, which fears that disclosure could inflame opinion in Pakistan and possibly put Davis at risk.

A Colorado television station, 9NEWS, initially made a connection after speaking to Davis's wife, who lives outside Denver. She referred its inquiries to a number in Washington which turned out to be the CIA. The station subsequently removed the CIA reference from its website at the request of the US government.

[Asim's note: Man I knew it, the answers to Davis's identity lie in what could be found digging around his wife!]

Nicole Vap, an executive producer, said: "Because of the safety concerns, we decided to amend the story. But it remains accurate."

The episode has badly damaged relations between the CIA and the ISI, Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence spy agency. Some reports, quoting Pakistani intelligence officials, have suggested that the men Davis killed, Faizan Haider, 21, and Muhammad Faheem, 19, were ISI agents with orders to shadow Davis because he crossed an unspecified "red line".

A senior police official, however, confirmed American claims that the men were petty thieves – investigators found stolen mobile phones on their bodies, as well as small amounts of foreign currency and illegal weapons – but did not rule out an intelligence link.

A senior ISI official denied the dead men worked for the spy agency but admitted the CIA relationship had been badly damaged. "Their tactics of using good cop, bad cop do not work. We are a sovereign country and if they want to work with us, they need to develop a trusting relationship on the basis of equality. Being arrogant and demanding is not the way to do it," he said.

Tensions between the spy agencies have grown in recent months. The CIA Islamabad station chief was forced to leave in December after being named in a civil lawsuit, and the ISI was angered when its chief, General Shuja Pasha, was named in a New York lawsuit related to the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Although the two spy services co-operate in the CIA's drone campaign along the Afghan border, there has not been a drone strike since 23 January – the longest lull since June 2009. Experts are unsure whether both events are linked.

With the next hearing scheduled for 14 March, Davis awaits his fate in Kot Lakhpat jail in Lahore. Pakistani officials say they have taken exceptional measures to ensure his safety, including ringing the prison with paramilitary Punjab Rangers. The law minister, Sanaullah, said Davis was being kept in a "high security zone" and was receiving food from visitors from the US consulate.

Sanaullah said another 140 foreigners were in the same facility, many on drugs charges. Several press reports have speculated that the authorities worry the US could try to spring Davis in what one termed a "Hollywood-style sting".

"All measures for his security have been taken," said the ISI official. "He's as safe as can be."

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/20/us-raymond-davis-lahore-cia
 

MalikBrother

Junior Member
Detained US official 'in telephone contact with Islamic terror group'

Sources close to the investigation said Raymond Davis, 36, had made a series of telephone calls to South Waziristan, a tribal area along the border with Afghanistan synonymous with militant activity.

The mystery surrounding Davis has deepened since he was arrested in Lahore two weeks ago. He has told police officers he shot dead two men in self defence.

The US insists he is a diplomat based at the embassy in Islamabad and should be granted immunity.

However, security sources have leaked a series of details suggesting that he may have had a clandestine role.

"His phone records clearly show he was in contact with Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, for what reason we can only speculate," said a police officer, referring to a terrorist group with close links to the Pakistani Taliban.

Hamid Gul, a former head of Pakistan's spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence directorate, said the phone calls suggested he was a secret agent.

"This is a classic intelligence technique – to get inside the head of the enemy," he said.

Davis, who is due to appear in court on Friday, is a former special forces soldier who left the US army in 2003 after 10 years of service, according to Pentagon records.

Mobile phone footage obtained by the Dunya TV channel shows him pleading for the return of his passport shortly after his arrest.

"I need to tell the embassy where I am at," he said, during a confused interrogation as police officers interrupt and laugh in the background.
He went on to tell them that he was working at the US consulate in Lahore "I just work as a consultant there, with the [Regional Affairs Office]," he said.

His arrest is deeply embarrassing to the governments of both Pakistan and the US, which has suspended some high-level talks in order to increase pressure on Islamabad.


Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ephone-contact-with-Islamic-terror-group.html
 

MalikBrother

Junior Member
A breath of fresh air


“Involvement of CIA with Raymond Davis (who killed two Pakistanis in broad daylight) is beyond any shadow of doubt” is a veritable bombshell the ISI has thrown. And in an atmosphere of widespread public dismay on account of the feeling that Pakistan is resisting US pressure about the Davis affair only by taking shelter behind the court case against him, ISI’s fearless exposure of CIA’s designs against our national interests, as given in this paper’s exclusive story yesterday, comes as a breath of fresh air. It would further deter the federal government from buckling under the US pressure. It must be stated that but for the fear of judicial anger and public backlash, it seemed likely that it would submit to threats from American officials and quietly agree to repatriate Davis after giving him the required diplomatic immunity cover. Other complicating hurdles to releasing him have been: first, the Punjab government’s refusal to ignore the gravity of the crime Davis so blatantly committed and let him off and, second, former Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi’s outspoken details, given to the media, of the American manoeuvrings to wangle for the killer diplomatic immunity from the back date.

ISI sources, while acknowledging that the professional relationship, which the premier intelligence agencies (CIA and ISI) enjoyed, has grown stronger over the years, for the first time came out in public saying that the conduct of CIA around the tragic incident of the murder of two Pakistanis has “virtually thrown the partnership into question” and “it is hard to predict if the relationship will ever reach the level at which it was prior to the Davis episode.” The Pakistani agency has done well to go on record in its criticism of CIA for its arrogance and leaking baseless stories to the media, adding the “insinuations of ISI helping in relocating and protecting the Haqqanis are nothing but insinuations”, which tended to put into doubt Islamabad’s sincerity about combating the curse of terrorism, and regretted that it failed to show respect to the mutual relationship. It was also reassuring to hear the clear-cut assertion from the ISI source telling CIA off that it should not remain under any illusion that it would work against Pakistan’s national interests in compliance with CIA’s wishes. In his words, “It is unfortunate that the CIA leadership fails to understand that the ISI works and will continue to work for national interest regardless of the desires of CIA.”


Source: http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-.../Editorials/21-Feb-2011/A-breath-of-fresh-air
 

MalikBrother

Junior Member
US official held in Pakistan 'is CIA'

An American official held in Pakistan after shooting dead two men is a CIA agent who was on assignment at the time of the incident, according to reports.

By Our Foreign Staff 11:30PM GMT 20 Feb 2011


Raymond Davis, a US contractor, has been held for more than a fortnight accused of murder after admitting shooting dead two men in Lahore in self defence.

Despite the incident, the US has insisted he is entitled to diplomatic immunity, arguing that he is an "administrative and technical official" linked to its Lahore consulate.

Pakistan intelligence officials however believe that Davis, a former special forces soldier, is employed by the CIA.

"It's beyond a shadow of a doubt," one official told the Guardian.

Rana Sanaullah, the Punjab law minister, told the newspaper: "This is not the work of a diplomat. He was doing espionage and surveillance activities,"

The allegations came as a US drone attack on Sunday killed at least five militants in South Waziristan, the first such attack since Davis' arrest on January 27.



Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...7315/US-official-held-in-Pakistan-is-CIA.html
 

MalikBrother

Junior Member
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report
Sunday 20th February, 2011 (ANI)
Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report.

Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is warning that the situation on the sub-continent has turned "grave" as it appears that open warfare is about to break out between Pakistan and the United States, The European Union Times reports.

The SVR warned in its report that the apprehension of 36-year-old Davis, who shot dead two Pakistani men in Lahore last month, had fuelled this crisis.

According to the report, the combat skills exhibited by Davis, along with documentation taken from him after his arrest, prove that he is a member of US' TF373 black operations unit currently operating in the Afghan War Theatre and Pakistan's tribal areas, the paper said.

While the US insists that Davis is one of their diplomats, and the two men he killed were robbers, Pakistan says that the duo were ISI agents sent to follow him after it was discovered that he had been making contact with al Qaeda, after his cell phone was tracked to the Waziristan tribal area bordering Afghanistan, the paper said.

The most ominous point in this SVR report is "Pakistan's ISI stating that top-secret CIA documents found in Davis's possession point to his, and/or TF373, providing to al Qaeda terrorists "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents", which they claim are to be used against the United States itself in order to ignite an all-out war in order to re-establish the West's hegemony over a Global economy that is warned is just months away from collapse," the paper added. (ANI)


Sources:

http://www.islamabadtimesonline.com/cia-spy-captured-giving-nuclear-bomb-to-terrorists/

http://www.britainnews.net/story/74...nuclear-bomb-material-to-Al-Qaeda-says-report
 

arzafar

Junior Member
yeah i saw teh story at facebook somebody had shared a nyt story. Obviously NYT had it's own spin on things but it was better than yahoo and the likes.

As far as nuclear things, that's a big joke. It is impossible for just anybody to create a nuclear bomb. it's a long drawn process. You need a whole pocessing and enrichment facility just to get the fissile ready which takes years. most countries cant even get the design right which is why only a few countries are capable of producing nuclear. Even if the ql-qaeda and other terrorist had access to all the manuals, even the whole plant, they still wont be able to make a nuclear bomb. hell even if they got hold of the actual bomb, they wont be able to do anything with it. The news agencies want to sell papers and that's why they publish such utter garbage.
 

MalikBrother

Junior Member
ISLAMABAD: As American newspapers lifted a self-imposed gag on the CIA links of Raymond Davis, in place on the request of the US administration, The Express Tribune has now learnt that the alleged killer of two Pakistanis had close links with the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).
The New York Times reported on Monday that Davis “was part of a covert, CIA-led team of operatives conducting surveillance on militant groups deep inside the country, according to American government officials.”
This contradicts the US claim that Davis was a member of the ‘technical and administrative staff’ of its diplomatic mission in Pakistan.
Davis was arrested on January 27 after allegedly shooting dead two young motorcyclists at a crowded bus stop in Lahore. American officials say that the arrest came after a ‘botched robbery attempt’.
“The Lahore killings were a blessing in disguise for our security agencies who suspected that Davis was masterminding terrorist activities in Lahore and other parts of Punjab,” a senior official in the Punjab police claimed.
“His close ties with the TTP were revealed during the investigations,” he added. “Davis was instrumental in recruiting young people from Punjab for the Taliban to fuel the bloody insurgency.” Call records of the cellphones recovered from Davis have established his links with 33 Pakistanis, including 27 militants from the TTP and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi sectarian outfit, sources said.
Davis was also said to be working on a plan to give credence to the American notion that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are not safe. For this purpose, he was setting up a group of the Taliban which would do his bidding.
The larger picture
Davis’s arrest and detention has pulled back the curtain on a web of covert American operations inside Pakistan.
The former military ruler Pervez Musharraf had cut a secret deal with the US in 2006, allowing clandestine CIA operations in his country. This was done to make the Americans believe that Islamabad was not secretly helping the Taliban insurgents.
Under the agreement, the CIA was allowed to acquire the services of private security firms, including Blackwater (Xe Worldwide) and DynCorp to conduct surveillance on the Taliban and al Qaeda.
According to The New York Times, even before his arrest, Davis’s CIA affiliation was known to Pakistani authorities. It added that his visa, presented to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in late 2009, describes his job as a “regional affairs officer,” a common job description for officials working with the agency.
American officials said that with Pakistan’s government trying to clamp down on the increasing flow of CIA officers and contractors trying to gain entry to Pakistan, more of these operatives have been granted “cover” as embassy employees and given diplomatic passports.
However, “The government and security agencies were surprised to know that Davis and some of his colleagues were involved in activities that were not spelled out in the agreement,” a source told The Express Tribune.
“Davis’s job was to trail links of the Taliban and al Qaeda in different parts of Pakistan. But, instead, investigators found that he had developed close links with the TTP,” added the source.
Investigators had recovered 158 items from Davis, which include a 9mm Gloc Pistol, five 9mm magazines, 75 bullets, GPS device, an infrared torch, a wireless set, two mobile phones, a digital camera, a survival kit, five ATM cards, and Pakistani and US currency notes, sources said.
The camera had photographs of Pakistan’s defence installations.
Intelligence officials say that some of the items recovered from Davis are used by spies, not diplomats. This proves that he was involved in activities detrimental to Pakistan’s national interests.
The Punjab law minister has said that Davis could be tried for anti-state activities. “The spying gadgets and sophisticated weapons recovered are never used by diplomats,” Rana Sanaullah told The Express Tribune.
He said some of the items recovered from Davis have been sent for a detailed forensic analysis. “A fresh case might be registered against Davis under the [Official] Secrets Act once the forensics report was received,” he said.
Sanaullah said that Davis could also be tried under the Army Act. To substantiate his viewpoint, he said recently 11 persons who had gone missing from Rawalpindi’s Adiyala jail were booked under the Army Act.
However, a senior lawyer said that only the Army has the authority to register a case under the Army Act of 1952 against any person who is involved in activities detrimental to the army or its installations.
“Such an accused will also be tried by the military court,” Qazi Anwer, former president of the Supreme Court Bar Association said. He added that the civil authorities could register a case of espionage against any person.
But interestingly, despite all the evidence of Davis’s involvement in espionage, the federal government is unlikely to try him for spying.
“He will be prosecuted only on charges of killing of two men in Lahore,” highly-placed sources told The Express Tribune.
The Davis saga has strained relations between Pakistan and the United States, creating a dilemma for the PPP-led government.
More pressure
The pressure on the Pakistan government to release Davis has been steadily intensifying.
According to The New York Times, “there have been a flurry of private phone calls to Pakistan from Leon E Panetta, the CIA director, and Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, all intended to persuade the Pakistanis to release the secret operative.” WITH ADDITIONAL REPORTING BY ASAD KHARAL IN LAHORE
Published in The Express Tribune, February 22nd, 2011.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/122105/cia-agent-davis-had-ties-with-local-militants/
 

arzafar

Junior Member
so after the latest round of meetings between kiyani and 4 American generals (mike mullen included), there is still no sign of progress. ISI has cut off all contacts with the CIA and is currently trying to chase the 500-1000 cia contracted agents operating in Pakistan.

in other news the uncle of one of the victims has been poisoned to death. Speculations are abound that some foreigners were involved.

The whole of last week was spent cajoling the victims' families into accepting blood money. However, there is growing opposition to blood money claims and the vast majority of people want raymond to be hanged till death for several charges of murder, carrying weapons and spying. Inevitably, comparisons have been made to the 87 year long sentence that affia siddqui received from a US court for an alleged attempt to shoot and carrying explosives/maps.

Most scholars have rejected the blood money offer since it has been confirmed that raymond is an American spy.

A couple of lawyers have set up a fund to match the price the Americans are willing to offer to the families in return for a pardon to Davis. With the upcoming price and tax hikes it seems impossible to raise enough money for the families to prevent them from accepting diya for raymond. On the other hand, the Americans obviously have all the $$$ the poor families would ever need.

So as they say beggars cant be choosers. It does appear as though the Americans will be able to buy their way out of trouble again. However, there would be no buying on the day of qiyamah.
 

arzafar

Junior Member
Today was a historic day. the local court in pakistan actually rejected the plea of immunity and a hearing has been called for 8th march. Another case to settle the issue of immunity is currently pending in High court and the hearing takes place on 14th March. All of the top lawyers and constitutional experts in pakistan have already refused to fight his case.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/03/raymond-davis-expected-to-be-charged-in-court-today.html

In other news, Russian foreign intel service reports that davis was supplying nuclear/biowarfare weapons to al-qaeda. However, since it's russia (and therfore anti-america) this news wasnt given much importance. Furthermore, as i said earlier, it is not very easy to operate nuclear weapons of any size. On the other hand biological weapons are perhaps the easiest to operate.

There is speculation that some 400 CIA contracted agents are currently trying to escape pakistani borders. some of them have taken refuge in US consulate in Islamabad.

The US/ISAF chief, David Petraeus met kiyani today and im sure the issue of raymond davis and the CIA presence within Pakistan would have been the main subject.

Anyhow, if this raymond guy is punished, it will be a monumental step for pakistan towards gaining independence from American hegemony. In many ways this would be David vs Golaith part II.
 
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