what is salat al sobh?

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DanyalSAC

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Asalaamu alaikum!!

When I've tried to google this expression all I get are websites in French or in other languages. I've been told alternately that salat al sobh is what they call Fajr in Pakistan or in Afghanistan, or that its the name for the sunnah you pray before Fajr. Or that its wajib (fard) and that Fajr is the sunnah. When I've asked at my masjid half of them never heard of it.

Any ideas?

JazakAllah Khairn!

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saima abdullah

saima abdullah

my life iz 4 Allah
DanyalSAC said:
Walaikum salaam. You say "we", who do you refer to? Soubh means morning in what language (I was told this word isn't Arabic)?

Thank you for your reply :)

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we pakistani m sorry i should tell you this b4 :shymuslima1:
and its in urdu :shymuslima1::shymuslima1::shymuslima1:
 
Fatima S.Ar

Fatima S.Ar

Happiness = Islam
Assubh الصبح = The morning
Subh صبح = morning

In Arabic , it's an Arabic word

Here in my society we call Fajr prayer as Subh prayer

Fajr = morning but before the sunrise ( I donno its name in English )

Got it ? :)
 
a_stranger

a_stranger

Junior Member
Prayers

:salam2:

Prayer is performed five times a day: at dawn (fajr, subh), noon (dhuhr), in the afternoon (asr), at sunset (maghrib) and nightfall (isha'a)

These prayers are obligatory , to be performed five times a day by a Muslim.

:salah::salah::salah::salah::salah:
 
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DanyalSAC

Junior Member
a_stranger said:
:salam2:

Prayer is performed five times a day: at dawn (fajr, subh), noon (dhuhr), in the afternoon (asr), at sunset (maghrib) and nightfall (isha'a)

These prayers are obligatory , to be performed five times a day by a Muslim.

:salah::salah::salah::salah::salah:
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That was never in question.

What I was wondering is what "subh" is. I've always heard it called "fajr". Every masjid in the US that lists the prayer times on their websites (that I've seen) list the morning prayer as "fajr" not as "subh" so I was just curious as to what "salat as sub" was. And from what I've gathered, "subh" means dawn - or the period of of morning just before sunrise. So apparently in several cultures the two words are interchangeable for the morning prayer.

But you can see how it could be confusing, after all this time of praying Fajr I'm told its actually Subh... but then, told no its not Subh its Fajr... back and forth I go LOL!! :)

I will stick to using Fajr, its what I know :)
 
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poorslave

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Assalaamu alaikum Brothers and Sisters
I am new here, and I saw the question and decided to answer it for you after I had to register at this forum.
This question is not known to most of the Muslims around the world, and I have even asked it on the mic at the Masjid here in UK, and found that nearly all the audience didn't have a clue as what they mean.
In brief inshaallah: Al-Fajr in Arabic means "dawn", and Sobh means "morning time", to be more precise the time the sun starts to rise.
Fajr prayer is Sunnah of the Prophet, which is Two units just before Sobh prayer which is FARDH, meaning the first of the five obligatory prayers of the day.
This, of course doesn't mean because Fajr is Sunnah then we don't have to pray it, actually WE MUST PRAY IT as the Quran says: " And whatever the Messenger brings to you then take it, and whatever He forbids you from then refrain", so this is a double-command from Allah Taala to obey the Messenger -sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam- for obeying Him is obeying Allah Taala. So because Sobh follows Fajr time by a little ( dawn time), the Arabs called it Fajr, so we end up with what we call "False Fajrtrue" and "True Fajr".
To recapitulate, Fajr is Sunnah, and is two units before Sobh prayer, which is too two units, but it's the first of the five obligatory prayers of the day, and there is no prayer after it, until the sun rises to a certain hight of the equivalent of a spear or so.
This is what I wanted to contribute with in this issue, and Allah Taala knows best, wa sallalaahu ala Muhammad wa ala aalih wa sahbih.
Assalaamu alaikum
 
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Idris16

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Is there a difference between subh prayer and fajr prayer?

Praise be to Allaah.

Fajr prayer is subh prayer – there is no difference between them. It consists of two rak’ahs. The time for this prayer starts when the true dawn begins, and lasts until the sun rises. There is a prayer that comes before it, consisting of two rak'ahs, which is known as the Sunnah of subh or the two rak’ahs of Fajr.

The phrases salaat al-subh and salaat al-fajr are both used in the Sunnah to refer to this prayer, such as the report narrated by Muslim (656) from ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Abi ‘Amrah who said: ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan entered the mosque after Maghrib prayer and sat by himself. I sat beside him and he said: O son of my brother, I heard the Messenger of Allaah :)saw:) say: “Whoever prays ‘Isha’ in congregation, it is as if he spent half the night in prayer, and whoever prays Subh (Fajr) in congregation, it is as if he spent the entire night in prayer.”

Al-Bukhaari (556) and Muslim (608) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah :)saw:) said: “If one of you catches up with a rak’ah of ‘Asr prayer before the sun sets, let him complete his prayer, and if he catches up with a rak’ah of Subh (Fajr) prayer before the sun rises, let him complete his prayer.”

As for calling it Fajr prayer, Muslim (670) narrated from Jaabir ibn Samurah that when the Prophet :)saw:) prayed Fajr he would sit in the place where he had prayed until the sun was well risen.

And al-Bukhaari (891) and Muslim (880) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet :)saw:) used to recite in Jumu’ah and in Fajr prayer, “Alif‑Laam‑Meem. The revelation of the Book… ” [Soorat al-Sajdah, no. 32] and “Has there not been over man a period of time” [Soorat al-Dahr, no. 76].

And al-Bukhaari (555) and Muslim (632) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah :)saw:) said: “Angels come to you in succession by night and by day, and they meet at Fajr prayer and at ‘Asr prayer, then those who stayed among you ascend and He (Allaah) asks them, although He knows best, ‘How did you leave My slaves?’ They say: ‘We left them when they were praying and we came to them when they were praying.’”

See also question no. 65941 and 26763 for information on the time of Fajr (Subh) prayer, and question no. 65746 for more information on the Sunnah of Fajr prayer.

And Allaah knows best.
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