WHY? Please explain!!!
- Thread starter dianek
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dont understand it either
I was in total shock and disbelief when watching this. And I can only read a little arabic and understand a little. They were having children do this in the name of Allah??????// I am sitting here crying after watching this. What was happening or going to happen with that sister that they had a rifle at her head? And also the woman beat up without hijab? I am heartbroken......This is not Islam......
I was in total shock and disbelief when watching this. And I can only read a little arabic and understand a little. They were having children do this in the name of Allah??????// I am sitting here crying after watching this. What was happening or going to happen with that sister that they had a rifle at her head? And also the woman beat up without hijab? I am heartbroken......This is not Islam......
TheKnowledgeSeeker
A Believer In Heart
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dianek
Junior Member
That is my point! We see this horrific stuff in the name of Allah? In the name of islam? And no one is ruffling their feathers in protest of what these madmen are doing!!!! The UMMAH is letting these people represent Islam to the world!!!!! No wonder my mother automatically thinks horribly about muslims......she doesn't know any better because none of the people are standing up and saying "WAIT....this is WRONG!!! These men are evil, not muslims!" Why aren't Muslims ANGRY about this?
TheHumbleWun
Banned
Salaam sister Diane,
It's nice to hear from you again. It's sure is a different atmosphere on TTI without you
I think the best thing to do is to show your mother the true model of a Muslim. Your good actions, my good actions should be enough to negate the negative practices of some Muslims. We should equip ourselves with the knowledge of the Quran & Sunnah and help explain what Islam really is and fully practice it. And of course your mothers view on Islam is based on what the media presents to her - but that's a whole different topic.
You have bad people in all faiths and religions. We should not let a bad apple represent for the whole tree. In my opinion, these "bad apples" are a minority. I can not be angry about everything in the world. I don't think my mind would be able to live that kind of a lifestyle. I try my best every day. I'm human. I have limits. It's the main issues (i.e. Guantanamo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine) that we should keep our focus on. If people truly want to learn about Islam tell them don't study Muslims, study the faith!
May Allah cure all of our ignorances. Ameen.
It's nice to hear from you again. It's sure is a different atmosphere on TTI without you
I think the best thing to do is to show your mother the true model of a Muslim. Your good actions, my good actions should be enough to negate the negative practices of some Muslims. We should equip ourselves with the knowledge of the Quran & Sunnah and help explain what Islam really is and fully practice it. And of course your mothers view on Islam is based on what the media presents to her - but that's a whole different topic.
You have bad people in all faiths and religions. We should not let a bad apple represent for the whole tree. In my opinion, these "bad apples" are a minority. I can not be angry about everything in the world. I don't think my mind would be able to live that kind of a lifestyle. I try my best every day. I'm human. I have limits. It's the main issues (i.e. Guantanamo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine) that we should keep our focus on. If people truly want to learn about Islam tell them don't study Muslims, study the faith!
May Allah cure all of our ignorances. Ameen.
dianek
Junior Member
Then I would say that as muslims you can't blame Americans or Jews for doing to muslims what muslims are doing to muslims...
Mairo
Maryama
Asalaamu aleikum,
I actually did not watch the video, but I have an idea of what may be in it, and I understand what you are saying sister Diane. I am grateful that there are more and more "non-muslims" who do realize this is not the true face of Islam. However, I agree that it is very distressing that there are so many "muslims" who do not realize these things are wrong and instead will defend these kinds of actions.
I think one of the biggest duties we have as Muslims is to recognize the face of evil, and speak out against all of the forms of evil we encounter in the world. In Islam we are called to enjoin good and forbid evil. Also we are to repel evil by what is best, with GOOD. We need do whatever we can to stand up against evil, and not remain silent in the face of evil. Especially when it is happening within our own community, the Muslim ummah.
The fact of the matter is that we are coming upon ever increasing difficult times. There are many articles on TTI, especially in the Ummah in Conflict section, which help shed more light on the situation we are facing and what is really going on in the world and within the Muslim Ummah. If you haven't read them already, I would really recommend it.
I feel our greatest responsiblity is to strengthen our mutual Muslim community. First and foremost we have a duty to strive to improve and be the best we can be individually, to be a good role model in the world, to constantly seek to repent to Allah when we commit errors, to be more kind and do more good in the world, to contribute in a beneficial way to our families and to society. We also have a sacred duty if we find our brothers/sisters doing something wrong to try to stop them from continuing in that behavior. Even if the behavior is not changed as a result of trying to correct someone, you at least have done your duty to Allah by trying to help with whatever means you have at your disposal.
Islam is the most wonderful, beautiful religion. There are still pious and upright Muslims who practice their religion well in the world today. We should focus our attention on learning from them whenever possible. And remember that there will always remain an upright party who will uphold the religion in the correct fashion, until the day of Judgement. I think that the increasing number of reverts to the religion in recent times will bring a much needed reform of the religion and turn people back to the right practice, inshaAllah. But regardless of what others may do, we always have an obligation to do our best and what is right for Allah's sake, and on this we should rely. Allah is always faithful to his servants, and will fulfill all of his promises in due time.
Peace and God bless
I actually did not watch the video, but I have an idea of what may be in it, and I understand what you are saying sister Diane. I am grateful that there are more and more "non-muslims" who do realize this is not the true face of Islam. However, I agree that it is very distressing that there are so many "muslims" who do not realize these things are wrong and instead will defend these kinds of actions.
I think one of the biggest duties we have as Muslims is to recognize the face of evil, and speak out against all of the forms of evil we encounter in the world. In Islam we are called to enjoin good and forbid evil. Also we are to repel evil by what is best, with GOOD. We need do whatever we can to stand up against evil, and not remain silent in the face of evil. Especially when it is happening within our own community, the Muslim ummah.
The fact of the matter is that we are coming upon ever increasing difficult times. There are many articles on TTI, especially in the Ummah in Conflict section, which help shed more light on the situation we are facing and what is really going on in the world and within the Muslim Ummah. If you haven't read them already, I would really recommend it.
I feel our greatest responsiblity is to strengthen our mutual Muslim community. First and foremost we have a duty to strive to improve and be the best we can be individually, to be a good role model in the world, to constantly seek to repent to Allah when we commit errors, to be more kind and do more good in the world, to contribute in a beneficial way to our families and to society. We also have a sacred duty if we find our brothers/sisters doing something wrong to try to stop them from continuing in that behavior. Even if the behavior is not changed as a result of trying to correct someone, you at least have done your duty to Allah by trying to help with whatever means you have at your disposal.
Islam is the most wonderful, beautiful religion. There are still pious and upright Muslims who practice their religion well in the world today. We should focus our attention on learning from them whenever possible. And remember that there will always remain an upright party who will uphold the religion in the correct fashion, until the day of Judgement. I think that the increasing number of reverts to the religion in recent times will bring a much needed reform of the religion and turn people back to the right practice, inshaAllah. But regardless of what others may do, we always have an obligation to do our best and what is right for Allah's sake, and on this we should rely. Allah is always faithful to his servants, and will fulfill all of his promises in due time.
Peace and God bless
Rahima Ali
Junior Member
:astag:
LA ILLAHI ILLAL ALLAH,
WHO ARE THESE MONSTERS, SURELY THAT WAS UNISLAMIC.....
MAY THESE MONSTERS ROD IN HELL......THAT WAS EXTREMELY BABARIC.
LA ILLAHI ILLAL ALLAH,
WHO ARE THESE MONSTERS, SURELY THAT WAS UNISLAMIC.....
MAY THESE MONSTERS ROD IN HELL......THAT WAS EXTREMELY BABARIC.
dianek
Junior Member
Salaam sister Diane,
It's nice to hear from you again. It's sure is a different atmosphere on TTI without you
I think the best thing to do is to show your mother the true model of a Muslim. Your good actions, my good actions should be enough to negate the negative practices of some Muslims. We should equip ourselves with the knowledge of the Quran & Sunnah and help explain what Islam really is and fully practice it. And of course your mothers view on Islam is based on what the media presents to her - but that's a whole different topic.
You have bad people in all faiths and religions. We should not let a bad apple represent for the whole tree. In my opinion, these "bad apples" are a minority. I can not be angry about everything in the world. I don't think my mind would be able to live that kind of a lifestyle. I try my best every day. I'm human. I have limits. It's the main issues (i.e. Guantanamo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine) that we should keep our focus on.
May Allah cure all of ignorances. Ameen.
Salam! Thanks for the welcome back......BUT......dah dah dah dah!!!!!.......What is apparent to me is that these type of things are what the world sees and knows of islam and the ummah just sits back and takes it and says nothing. Like the other post I read today....about not pointing fingers at others.........The ummah should clean house and then set a good example. Media or no media if this is really happening as the video indicates, then it is circulated...it is representing the UMMAH. Is this how the ummah wants to be seen? Do we not care that brothers are killing brothers....it's okay as long as it isn't a kuffr killing muslims? What a double-standard!
And Christians and Jews do denounce violence committed by heathens in their faith! yes there is bad everywhere....but seems that the ummah just turns a blind eye in their own backyard. Women killed in Iraq because they don't wear a hijab?????? This really angers me! But not just this video....the people in Darfur being killed, the women in the Congo being raped and beaten and mutilated..........WHERE THE HELL IS HUMANITY!!!!! I am so disgusted.
abdellah007
Junior Member
salam
Well i havent seen what u posted bcos it is removed.
but if you look up there, u find :
www.turntoislam.com
" towards correcting the common misconceptions about islam"
wassalam
Well i havent seen what u posted bcos it is removed.
but if you look up there, u find :
www.turntoislam.com
" towards correcting the common misconceptions about islam"
wassalam
Open Your Eyes
Salaam,
In the Name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful
[This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul-Hijjah 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat' in Mecca.]
After praising and thanking Allah the Prophet (saws) said:
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying very carefully and take these words to those who could not be present here today.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that he will indeed reckon your deeds.
The Ten Commandments:
THOU SHALL NOT KILL
On 2/14/07 Thursday-Valentines Day: Northern Illinois University-Gunman walks into science class and starts shooting randomly. KILLS seven, WOUNDS
16 others, walks in carrying THREE HANDGUNS and ONE SHOTGUN. Stephan Kazmierczak, 27 year old white male, grew up in elk grove village, ILLINOIS. Parents live in Florida. He worked in the field of social work, he had established himself as an authority on prison systems, having co-authored a manuscript on self-injury in prison and the role of religion in the formation of early prisons in the US.
VIRGINIA TECH SHOOTING- 32 PEOPLE KILLED- APRIL 16, 2007
October- Campus Shooting Louisiana
November- Campus Shooting Louisiana
November- Campus Shooting Illinois
THIS IS ONLY A FEW OF THEM.......................
These crimes are not committed in the name of Islam :astag:
These crimes are not committed in the name of Christians :astag:
The crimes being committed in the video are mostly in war torn countries.
Is virginia, louisiana, illinois, and colorado, war torn states?
Salaam
Salaam,
In the Name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful
[This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul-Hijjah 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat' in Mecca.]
After praising and thanking Allah the Prophet (saws) said:
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying very carefully and take these words to those who could not be present here today.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that he will indeed reckon your deeds.
The Ten Commandments:
THOU SHALL NOT KILL
On 2/14/07 Thursday-Valentines Day: Northern Illinois University-Gunman walks into science class and starts shooting randomly. KILLS seven, WOUNDS
16 others, walks in carrying THREE HANDGUNS and ONE SHOTGUN. Stephan Kazmierczak, 27 year old white male, grew up in elk grove village, ILLINOIS. Parents live in Florida. He worked in the field of social work, he had established himself as an authority on prison systems, having co-authored a manuscript on self-injury in prison and the role of religion in the formation of early prisons in the US.
VIRGINIA TECH SHOOTING- 32 PEOPLE KILLED- APRIL 16, 2007
October- Campus Shooting Louisiana
November- Campus Shooting Louisiana
November- Campus Shooting Illinois
THIS IS ONLY A FEW OF THEM.......................
These crimes are not committed in the name of Islam :astag:
These crimes are not committed in the name of Christians :astag:
The crimes being committed in the video are mostly in war torn countries.
Is virginia, louisiana, illinois, and colorado, war torn states?
Salaam
xohanifaxo
one in a billion!!
the picture or video whatever it was got removed by a moderator because i think it was horrible..i did not see it
OsMaN_93
Here to help
ok..
it was these horrible bad people who believe killing others for the sake of Allah is right :S
they are just misleading poeple about islam :astag:
they wer killing others palestinians.......
and unbelievers i think ....
i onlii watched half of it it got tooo scary for me:shymuslima1:
some wher shot ,some were burnt necks cut.........
god giud us to the right way!!!
i kno that this post will gt removed , but oo well
just to tell yuu
it was these horrible bad people who believe killing others for the sake of Allah is right :S
they are just misleading poeple about islam :astag:
they wer killing others palestinians.......
and unbelievers i think ....
i onlii watched half of it it got tooo scary for me:shymuslima1:
some wher shot ,some were burnt necks cut.........
god giud us to the right way!!!
i kno that this post will gt removed , but oo well
just to tell yuu
croatian/jewconv
slave_of_Allah
what the frick are you all yelling about....
no one can see what it is cuz one of the moderators deleted the original post
no one can see what it is cuz one of the moderators deleted the original post
podolski11
PAIN
i jz feel pity ......how the topic is diverted from the main topic to blaming the ummah....n i thought we should understand the video in the thread-*o muslims dont blame others*........i feel really sorry but i jz cant understand ur intentions...i mean i think i said alot in ur last post which was basically useless cause no1 won n i think this is also basically useless to debate on that our ummah is this n that......it is jz another cheap shot...i mean i can put millions of videos here of the crimes that happen in ur country but whats the use .....i jz feel pity....we should blame ourselves not others IN the UMMAH cause basically like the person said when we point 1 finger, 3 fingers point back n this is what is going to happen in this thread so i would jz say only people with spare time that dont want to learn n jz want to straight go on pointing r *not here to learn they r here to point*
the way the thread changes direction to pointing at us by *some1* is really shameful cause that person isnt even looking at its own pityful condition....i am sorry to say
wassalam
bintul islam
biz musulmanikh
Oh man, I learnt my lesson from the previous post on "Arrested in Starbucks". Im not gonna get into this mess again. Islam is perfect and I know it is, I have believed. If I see the greatest sign in favour of Islam, it will add naught to my believe and if I see the greatest sign against Islam (which is impossible) it will deminish naught from my believe. I have believed and I will never attribute the behaviour of Muslims to Islam, even though I believe Muslims are the best people on the face of the earth, always have been and always will be.
:salam2:
I don't exactly know what the issue is, but all I wanna say is that it's pointless to fight amongst people of your own religion about Ummah. The reason I say that it's because whatever someone else has done that has damged the reputation of Islam, realisticly speaking....there really isn't much you can do about that, other than just trying to better yourself. As long as you better yourself and set an example for the community around you including your children, with time your efforts will eventually speak for it's self. Pointless arguments and pointing fingers doesn't really help much.
I don't exactly know what the issue is, but all I wanna say is that it's pointless to fight amongst people of your own religion about Ummah. The reason I say that it's because whatever someone else has done that has damged the reputation of Islam, realisticly speaking....there really isn't much you can do about that, other than just trying to better yourself. As long as you better yourself and set an example for the community around you including your children, with time your efforts will eventually speak for it's self. Pointless arguments and pointing fingers doesn't really help much.
warda A
Sister
:salam2:
My dear sister Diane, i hope you are feeling fine now, it is really quite disheartening to watch what people do in the name of God, try and take things in inother view/perspective; if they profess to be muslims and they follow the exellent tradition of our prophet, they would never harm another brethren, in that sense they are actually not muslims.
so do not burden yourself with that, anybody asks you just tell them they arent muslims, for a real muslims wouldnt hurt anybody,
There is so much propaganda aganist muslims that people do not seem to realize that their faith is being tested, have hope and pray you are a better muslim and show the good example to people close to you. there is so much going on in the world that if you try making sense of all of them then you will find yourself spiralling downhill.
I pray that you find calm.
At this moment in time everything is focused on islam, have you ever asked yourself why they do not report anything positive?
remember you have a big family here and we all help one another.
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