Some questions and answers
I've never been to Iran, so I can't really comment on how Shias in Iran act. There are bad people everywhere so I don't necessarily doubt this.
But I do think we should be careful in labeling an entire group as kafirs. That is like saying everyone who claims to be a Sunni is a good person and everyone who claims to be Shia is a bad person. I think common sense tells us this is not true. Not every Shia is bad and not every Shia lies or curses the sahaba. There is a difference between the knowledgeable Shia who know what they're doing and what they believe and the laymen who might just call themselves Shia because that's what their family or culture is but not know enough about it. I have met a Shia sister who called herself Shia because her parents were but she didn't believe anything different from me or practice Islam differently and didn't really know about Shiaism when she was told about it and was honestly shocked to read some of the Shia hadiths.
Generalizations usually lead to bad things.
Dear Brother;
The relation between Shiaism and ISLAM is the same as Zionism and Judaism. Shiasm is a completely polotically motivated ideology and the root of thie ideology lies in the strong sense of PARSIANS to be different from Arabs. If the PARSIANS do not accept SHIASM then the Sahabas could have elliminated this devil ideology from the face of the earth.
In any sense, a true follower of Koran cannot consider SHIA as muslims.
SHIA curse Abu bakr (RA), Umor (RA) and Usman (RA) and those SAHABAS (only exception was their 11/12 shia imams) who support them as Caliph.
SHIA's accuse them all of apostasy? If SHIA's claim were true then my
question to you what gain did they achiev by being Caliph?
Do you know how Abu Bakr (RA) had died? He was the richest person when He embrace ISLAM in MAKKAH and when he died after being Caliph he was in debt to person. Being a caliph He had not enough money to pay his debt and died.
Do you know how Umar (RA) had served ISLAM? No other person had served ISLAM as Umar (RA) had done. Do you know His sleeping bed was sand? Do you know His germent was repaired seventy times? Do you know He used to visit every house in Makkah in disguise to know the conditions of His people. DO you know the story of HIS Journey to Jeruzalem where He took the key of AL-AKSA mosque.
Hazrat Umar (RA) did not speak to his son until he died. Do you know why? IT was because his son said, " Even though Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) allowed, I will not allow my wife to go to the mosque". Immediately after that Hazrat Umar (RA) abandon his son and he was left abondoned until his death.
Hazrat Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman (RA) live as muslim, smell as a muslim, eat as a muslim, speak as a muslim, served islam as muslim, had died as a muslim, How can one blame them for apostasy. Which material gain they had achived by being caliph? Can anyone show an example? I know No one can?
Now ALLAH has declared paradise to 10 sahabas by His messenger i.e., those 10 sahabas will not be judged on the day of judgement. Hazrat Abu Bakr, Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Uthman (RA) are among the 10. How can one curse those whom Allah has granted paradise?
Since Allah has declared paradise to one in this world it means Allah has
rewarded him by forgieving all of his past and present sins and the sins he might commit in the future.
This means Allah has granted paradise to the 10 sahabas by not only forgeiving their previous and present sins (I belive the Sahabas are sinless) but also their future sins.
Even if I agree for the sake of argument with the SHIAs, then still they do not have any right to curse the companions of prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
Apart from this the SHIA belive in thier holy imams who are working day and night for them. SHAI believe IMAM KHOMENI was there since the time of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) but He appeared to them to oust the SHAH regime. Likewise their other imams are also with them in GHOST and they will appear to help them when needed. This believe is similar to the christain believe of holy ghost. They pray to ALI, IMAM Hossain, for protection from evil and to intercede for them on the day of judgement.
Where did the shai get this devil thought?
Is there anything like that in KORAN and Hadith?
If you ask them these qustions they will reply Koran is corrupted. The complete quaran is with their imam who is in the cave.
No way we can call SHIA as muslim. They are kuffar as simple as that.
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