Al-Qaeda Group Claims responsibilty for Foiled Attack on Detroit-Bound Plane

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Salem9022

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A regional wing of Al Qaeda has claimed responsibility for a failed Christmas Day attack on a US-bound passenger plane. US President Barack Obama promised to hunt down the plotters.
An Al-Qaeda affiliate in the Arabian peninsula claimed Monday it was behind the failed bombing and threatened new attacks on the West, US monitoring groups said.

It acknowledged in the Internet posting that a "technical fault" had caused the failure of the plot, SITE Intelligence said.

The statement, which was accompanied by a picture of suspected would-be bomber Abdulmutallab, boasted of the coup delivered by the "Nigerian brother" against Western airport security.

He "was able to breach all the modern and sophisticated technologies and checkpoints at the airports around the world," another US monitoring group, IntelCenter, said, quoting from the statement.

"His act has dealt a huge blow to the myth of American and global intelligence services and showed how fragile its structure is."


http://www.france24.com/en/20091228-al-qaeda-detroit-plane-incident-bomber-obama-usa-attack
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
I'll admit that I haven't been following the story too closely. But there's a part of me that thinks Al Qaeda is jumping on the free publicity bandwagon. I still have my doubts that he was anything but some amateur nutjob who wanted attention and claimed to be affiliated with them and in the end it worked out well enough for the both of them.
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
why didnt nobody give a damn when that bloody jewish guy did something similar? they didnt even mention the word terrorist!! he got away just like that, why? because he was jew and they can do whatever they want. no laws for them. they can commit genocide and get away with it.
 

esmajic

New Member
They are full of .... with these obscure news and sources:

"An Al-Qaeda affiliate in the Arabian peninsula claimed Monday it was behind the failed bombing and threatened new attacks on the West, US monitoring groups said.
It acknowledged in the Internet posting that a "technical fault" had caused the failure of the plot, SITE Intelligence said.
...
Abdulmutallab told FBI agents he was connected to the Al-Qaeda affiliate, which operates largely in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, by a radical Yemeni cleric whom he contacted online.
...
American law enforcement officials, quoted anonymously by US media, have said the suspect confessed once in custody to receiving specific training for the attack from an Al-Qaeda bombmaker in Yemen."


What, when, who, where, what internet forum, what FBI agent and who is quoted anonymously ..... real news sources.

And again we have "radical Yemeni cleric whom he contacted online" - we know on whom they think of but where is the actual proof, and how that suddenly all al-qaeda operations come from Yemen.

Next thing will be 50000 NATO soldiers going to Yemen just to "help"...

This is all just propaganda to send more troups to an other islamic country and ocupy it, I even have feelings that they themself "programed" or "supported" this por soul Abdulmutallab to trie this por excuse of armed Jihad (but Allah swa knows best).
If they havent then they for shure have knowed about it and let it happen since his own father alarmed them mounths ago about strange behaivor of his son (and Allah swa is best of planers).


To brother "FreedomFighter" and other brothers this has nothing to do with Jewish terorism, this is terorist act done by person with muslim name (Abdulmutallab) who also aparently said that he done it and tried it because of Islam and that he wages Jihad on the path of Allah (swa). Yes, maybe cia, mosad and who knows what other secret agency out there is behind this (as I stated earlier) but we dont know it, all we and general public know is guys name Abdulmutallab and he don it because of Islam.

Trying to point to crimes of others wont help us. What we need to do is try to educate ourselves and our brothers and sisters about armed Jihad in a way of Allah (swa) in a proper way so they wont be traped by shaitan to do acts that can leed them to hellfire. Especialy this act of suicide bombing, and then attacking on unarmed civilians while we all know what muslim lands are ocupied and where.

Here is a link with e-book that outlines what is suicide and what is martydom on path of Allah. It has all relevant ayats from Qur'an and sahih hadiths of our Prophet (saws) and it states opinions of lot of scholars.


quran.nu/essays/martyrdomVsuicide30Nov09.pdf

quran.nu/essays/

[copy > paste this link in your address bar]


Take this and learn it, and learn others so they wont be tempted by shaitan to blow themseves up thinking that they are going to paradise when they are going to hellfire.
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
^yes. what i meant is that when someone does such things (whom they say Muslim), its immediately called Islam terrorism. but we forgot that the jew guy who did something similar. did we hear the word terrorist? no we did not. not only that, but he got away with it. they didnt even arrest him, nothing. so why? only when someone who looks Muslim, or someone with Muslim name, then you hear the word terrorism. this is not justice. the jews (which im talking about israel) are obviously behind many crimes committed in the world.
 

MutlekM

Junior Member
:salam2:
These kufar are crazy they would do anything so the muslims could get a bad name. It is already pretty bad where I live this is just gonna get worst. Inshallah Allah will make it best for us and for our kids AMEEN.
:wasalam:
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
And since when was "killing the kuffar" a characteristic of the khawarij? I am not saying anything in support of this, but if someone is attacking the kuffar as a retaliation for the killing of muslims by America, then how can this be a trait of the Khawarij while remaining silent and not doing anything while the Americans are attacking and killing muslims be a sign of true Imaan?

I'm not saying whether or not they are the khawarij but there is a HUGE difference between killing civilians and killing combatants. You cannot just say, "they do it to us so we'll do it to them." That makes you no better than the kuffar if that's how you want to play the game.
 

abubaseer

tanzil.info
Staff member
:salam2: Brothers,

Just because the Kuffaar kill our innocent people doesnot mean we also do the same to them.

Killing of innocents even during a War is not allowed according to Islam.
Allah has made us a Just Nation.

Please read the forum rules before you post rather than wondering and discussing they get deleted.
(Link --> http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81)

- Speaking in favour of killing Civillians. - Any topics written supporting the death of any civillian or bombing any country (i.e. Iraq) will not be allowed. This is wholly UnIslamic.


:wasalam:
 

adam_arb

Junior Member
They are full of .... with these obscure news and sources:

"An Al-Qaeda affiliate in the Arabian peninsula claimed Monday it was behind the failed bombing and threatened new attacks on the West, US monitoring groups said.
It acknowledged in the Internet posting that a "technical fault" had caused the failure of the plot, SITE Intelligence said.
...
Abdulmutallab told FBI agents he was connected to the Al-Qaeda affiliate, which operates largely in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, by a radical Yemeni cleric whom he contacted online.
...
American law enforcement officials, quoted anonymously by US media, have said the suspect confessed once in custody to receiving specific training for the attack from an Al-Qaeda bombmaker in Yemen."


What, when, who, where, what internet forum, what FBI agent and who is quoted anonymously ..... real news sources.

And again we have "radical Yemeni cleric whom he contacted online" - we know on whom they think of but where is the actual proof, and how that suddenly all al-qaeda operations come from Yemen.

Next thing will be 50000 NATO soldiers going to Yemen just to "help"...

This is all just propaganda to send more troups to an other islamic country and ocupy it, I even have feelings that they themself "programed" or "supported" this por soul Abdulmutallab to trie this por excuse of armed Jihad (but Allah swa knows best).
If they havent then they for shure have knowed about it and let it happen since his own father alarmed them mounths ago about strange behaivor of his son (and Allah swa is best of planers).


To brother "FreedomFighter" and other brothers this has nothing to do with Jewish terorism, this is terorist act done by person with muslim name (Abdulmutallab) who also aparently said that he done it and tried it because of Islam and that he wages Jihad on the path of Allah (swa). Yes, maybe cia, mosad and who knows what other secret agency out there is behind this (as I stated earlier) but we dont know it, all we and general public know is guys name Abdulmutallab and he don it because of Islam.

Trying to point to crimes of others wont help us. What we need to do is try to educate ourselves and our brothers and sisters about armed Jihad in a way of Allah (swa) in a proper way so they wont be traped by shaitan to do acts that can leed them to hellfire. Especialy this act of suicide bombing, and then attacking on unarmed civilians while we all know what muslim lands are ocupied and where.

Here is a link with e-book that outlines what is suicide and what is martydom on path of Allah. It has all relevant ayats from Qur'an and sahih hadiths of our Prophet (saws) and it states opinions of lot of scholars.


quran.nu/essays/martyrdomVsuicide30Nov09.pdf

quran.nu/essays/

[copy > paste this link in your address bar]


Take this and learn it, and learn others so they wont be tempted by shaitan to blow themseves up thinking that they are going to paradise when they are going to hellfire.

Salam bro

Here is a fatwa given by Shiekh Al-Albani:

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@Jannatul_Firdaws:

Thanks brother...My one went too
 

Salem9022

Junior Member
of course adam_arb didnt give this Video of Shaykh Al-Albani on Suicide Operations.

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And also

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And Shaykh Uthaymeen

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also note the Shaykh raheemaullah didn't say killing Innocent Kuffar like this Nigerian Man did but rather the Kuffar enemy who are fighting you. But again this is the takfeeri kharijee mentality they don't distinguish between civilians and Military of Muslims or Kuffar
 

Asja

Pearl of Islaam
Look at the fatwa of Nasiruddin Albanee (ra) before you make judgment.

Also practically all "sucide bombings" today are not against civilians but against military targets. It is only a tiny minority, such as in London, and now this Nigerian man, that the target were "civilians".

Otherwise the operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Chechnya is against military targets.

Assalamu allaykum

Brother, sister noone should make a a judgments without making right judgment and say the truth.

Jihaad is the fight for the sake of Allah, but killing innocent people even by mistake like you have pointed it is not jihaad but a terroism and disobeying to Allah.,
You have said that almost all "suicide bombings" and I do not know why you put it under quotation marks, when it is thier name. This is not truth, because there are many suicide bombers who are killing innocent victims,and there is no justification for them.

And Allah knows the best!!!

:wasalam:
 

Salem9022

Junior Member
May Allah have mercy on you Salem.

Allah Barak Feek akhi. You see how these people just twist the Scholars Opinions to suit their desires. Whom from Amoung the Students of Shaykh Al-Albani agree with these Takfeeries? If the closest Amoung Shaykh Al-Albani who used to learn under him and be with him don't agree with what these people are upon then where do they come up with these statements? They take from here and there without knowing that their are counter Statements which was said. But they will take from any body as long as they agree with him.

These people even take from Salman Al-Awdah who was a Treacher of Osama Bin Laden, but the funny thing is Salman Al-Awdah is a Soufi Takfeeri. He says celebrating Birthdays and Mothers Days and Valentine Days is Halal Subhan'Allah. Ask any of these Kharijee Takfeeries if they would agree with that when this is said from the teacher of Osama Bin Laden?

Also you can find Shaykh Al-Albanies stance on Jihad and other Matters here http://www.albani.co.uk/
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Some people misrepresent our Ulema' and use them only when they see fit, and then disregard their fatawa when they see fit. They pick and choose based on their hawaa. These same people who try to use the words of the Ulema of Ahlus Sunnah, will snort and reject anything else that does not fit with their rhetoric of Hawaa'

The people of innovations always take the words of the scholars and bend them, manipulate them and take them out of all context and use them to further their own corrupt beliefs and methodologies.

The closest people to the Shaykh are his students, I have spoken to Shaykh Albani Rahimahullah's top students, namely shaykh Ali Al Halabi (hafizahullah), Shaykh Muhammad Musa Nasr. They are all unanimous that this, what is deemed to represent the Shaykh saying "suicide bombing is allowed" is definitely not the position of the Shaykh. He also has condemned these practices and also has spoken out against groups such as Hamas and the methodology of Ikhwan Muslimoon, as well as the Rawafidi group Hizb Shaitan etc. This is clear.

None of his students say that Shaykh Al-Albani (rahimahullah) held a view that suicide bombing as done by the extremists today is allowed. - Shaykh Albani (rahimahullah) had given a hypothetical situation where the Jihad was legislated and had been done in accordance with the Shari'ah, and the circumstances in whcih something could be allowed. That does not mean that suicide bombing as done today is something good and allowed.

People should know, Shaykh Al-Albani (rahimahullah) was of the same position as that of Shaykh Ibn Baz and Ibn Uthaimeen (rahimahumullah) with regards to how the Jihad is legislated and carried out.
 
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