Masha-Allah a very nice reply dear,
Keep learning and do remember me in your du'as.
You may have my prayers for what they are worth me not being a muslim and all.
Masha-Allah a very nice reply dear,
Keep learning and do remember me in your du'as.
You may have my prayers for what they are worth me not being a muslim and all.
Great to hear from you again, brother Jamil Welcome back.
Your not Muslim?
Indeed not, I am a traditional agnostic, by which I mean that I do not accept that there is adequate proof either way, but if there is a God and he/she/it would like to drop in for a cuppa and discuss matters they are always welcome.
The Creator has discussed matters at great length and of adequate depth in the Qur'aan. If you want to drop in a bit of wisdom and meaning into your life at any stage, you're always welcome too.
The Creator has discussed matters at great length and of adequate depth in the Qur'aan. If you want to drop in a bit of wisdom and meaning into your life at any stage, you're always welcome too.
I have read threee translations and am currently working on a 4th.
Although I do learn a lot more about the precepts and atttudes of Islam and muslims from talking to muslims on this boards and others.
I have read threee translations and am currently working on a 4th.
Although I do learn a lot more about the precepts and atttudes of Islam and muslims from talking to muslims on this boards and others.
mind sharing with us what you have learned about the muslims from the members of this forum? I think it would be a fascinating read for all of us to see how a non muslims sees us.
hint: you can pm me if it's that bad lol!
You learn about the precepts and attitudes of muslims from talking to muslims on this board and others.
Not the precepts of Islaam. You learn about Islaam through the Qur'aan and Sunnah (the ways of Muhammad peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
If muslims were walking talking examples of the Qur'aan and Sunnah, this distinction wouldn't be necessary.
mind sharing with us what you have learned about the muslims from the members of this forum? I think it would be a fascinating read for all of us to see how a non muslims sees us.
hint: you can pm me if it's that bad lol!
You'd draw the conclusion that when you approach an issue with a disrespectful attitude, disrespect is what you can expect in return. Had you instead said something like, "I do not know much about Islam or Muhammad and would like to discuss them with you. My perception of both, I must confess, is negative. If you are open to it, I can tell you what my thoughts are and why I developed them. I am open too to your thoughts and promise I will listen without prejudice, but I may not agree, you understand."
Had you said something like that, you would've had tens of replies, because it would've given folks the impression that you are respectful of the religion and the man we hold dearest and sincerely want to know what you may not be aware of or have misunderstood.
But this was not a discussion about Islam, this was a discussion about why non-muslims might have a negative view of Islam, which is something I might (as a non-muslim) be more able to point out than a muslim, and some of the reasons might not meet with your approval, but they are real and they are out there and if you are not prepared to find out how non-muslims feel then, guess what, you will never understand why they can have a negative view of you.
It doesn't take much of an IQ to figure why non-muslims dislike muslims. Lol, we don't need your blessing of a brain to tell us.
Thanks anyway.