No I didn't mention if Iraqis are Innocent or Not I mentioned a Hadith which needs to be taken into consideration when talking about Iraq. Posting Youtube videos to raise someones emotion is not from the Sunnah but rather a Kharajite Tactic from the past to the present. We as Muslims use our A'khel not our lowly desires and emotions like the poster of these videos.
When talking about Iraq one needs to understand that the invasion of Iraq wouldn't have happened if the People there were following the Quran and Sunnah. That's all I am alluding to when I brought the Hadith.
Also this is a common tactic with all of these Kharajites(Al-Qaeda, Hizbul Tahrir, Al-Muhajiroon, Soufies, Ikwanul Muslimeen etc.) they will use emotional Tactics to raise ones emotions to get the people to follow them. That is why their emotional tactics is so usefull especially amoung the youths of the Muslims since they have no knowledge of the Quran and Sunnah and they are more bent on following their emotions and desires. The reason why I brought the Hadith again is for people to start reading and looking at the Quran and the Sunnah instead of Youtube videos which is ment as scare tactics by these groups.
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,
Fair enough, I agree with most of what you said, however I think that you lack any
tactfulness.
rather then posting these silly videos which is only ment to raise emotions.
Akhi, I took a look and mostly those are news reports. I do not think it is "silly". Its about our Muslim sister who got raped.
Saying those videos (which mostly seem to be made by non-Muslim News channels) are from the "khawarij" is silly. Learn to use such terms in the correct time, manner and context.
There are fatawa about reporting things from War, and dead bodies etc, those are aimed at the Arab Media, such as Al-Jazeera which keep repeating video footage over and over and over and over again. If anyone ever watches the Arab TV Stations, you would see just raw footage which is kept repeated. - Then they invite some over emotional person to speak about the situation.
This is quite different to reading an article, watching a documentary or watching the news. There is a difference between being educated/informed and being subject to emotional propaganda.
Does it make a difference to the Ummah if they learn about these things? Yes, if there is real use of the Qur'an and Sunnah to give people a chance to understand their situation.
The brother had put some documented videos (although one of them may not be true), nevertheless, we feel pain and the least you could have done was expressed sorrow at the plight of the Muslims and their suffering.
Perhaps you do feel sad about this, its not my job to pry into your heart, but then if you are going to make an effort to write a reply to such a topic, make sure you write with justice.
Your replies came across as quite cold hearted. Not in one place did you express any sorrow, saddness at what happened to our Muslim brothers and sisters.
This together with your excessive use of jumping up and down throwing labels like frisbees is going to play directly into the hands of the various extremist groups, who will just say look how you have no care for our Muslims.
I know that is not true brother Salem. Im sure you love Muslims a lot and want them to just follow the Deen in the Right way, with obedience to Allah and with true understanding of the Salaf Saalih. But, those who read your post and do not know you, will get a different view point. Instead of thinking that these are your personal opinions, they will place their incorrect assertions upon our beloved Ulema, the preservers and revivers of the Deen.
The Prophet Muhammad Salallahu alayhi wa salam said:
Whoever has no mercy for others will not receive mercy from Allah" (Bukhari, Muslim)
Well over 500,000 Muslims died in Iraq. The destruction and corruption is incalculable. Many children are born without limbs, other develop cancer and leukemia due to the Depleted Uranium used.
As our beloved Prophet Muhammad (Salallahu alayhi wa salam) taught us to say:
Inna Lillaahi wa Inna Ilayhi Rajioon.
We as Muslims must love each other,
“The believers in their affection, compassion and love for one another is like one single body. If a part of it suffers from pain, the whole body will suffer in pain.” (hadith narrated by Imam Muslim)
Islam teaches Humility, compassion and empathy as well as other great character traits.
The way of the Salaf is one of balance. Infact it is as our beloved Prophet Muhammad
taught us:
From Abu Hurairah (radiyallaahu 'anhu) who said that Allaah's Messenger (salallaahu 'alaihi wa'sallam) said: Indeed Allaah is gentle and loves gentleness, and gives due to gentleness that which He does not give to harshness. Reported by Ibn Majah (no. 3688) and Ibn Hibaan (no. 549)
Infact brother, certain degrees of harshness and insensitivity is also from the behaviour of the Khawarij.
I have never seen any of the Ulema of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah speak about things in such a manner. The Kibar Ulema' such as Shaykh Al-Albaani, Shaykh Ibn Baz or Ibn Uthaimeen (rahimahullah) would be very balanced in their approach to such topics, expressing their genuine deep felt sorrow and saddness for the Muslim brothers and sisters as well as giving a solution to it.
As for "the invasion of Iraq wouldn't have happened if the People there were following the Quran and Sunnah" Ahuh, well im sure you will say the same about other incidents in neighbouring countries. I think that you should be careful with such statements. This is knowledge that belongs to Allah alone.
Yes, it is true that it is due to a return to the Deen that we will have victory and Allah has promised us this. The fault, is not just the fault of the Iraqis but the Ummah as a whole. Indeed, the people are away from the Deen, but what was done in terms of Da'wah for them? Or support to the Muslims to return to the right Aqeedah? Those who stood by and did not do anything with regards to the true propagation of the Deen, establishment of Shari'ah are just as to blame. - Before or after Saddam Hussain and His baath party falling out with the Americans? I do not wish to go into a debate, over politics but some of your comments are wrong. There are many other factors inolved. Dont just play the blame game in such a manner.
Indeed, Tawheed and returning to the Qur'an and Sunnah (Tasfiyyah wa tarbiyyah) is the answer. Are you or me seperate from this problem? No.
So when giving advice take it easy, take your time to explain things in a much nicer way.
Infact, throwing so many labels around does not get you very far. The general people are never going to accept your points or understand them if all you do is spout 1001 references to various sects and people. - Its better to explain what is wrong with an issue according to the Qur'an and Sunnah, than just put labels.
That does not mean that there do not exist speakers and people who call to the way of the khawarij, I agree with you with that. Those groups you mentioned are indeed evil. Unfortunately there are many of them around and you are right many ignorant youth who do not know much about the Deen listen to them, because it sounds "good" and calls to their emotions.
Im sorry for writing this in the forum, infact, I was torn between writing a PM to you or putting this here. But, I think that you are good brother and there was not anything "wrong" with what you wrote. So, I could not just delete your posts either.
anyway, keep up the good work, Jazak Allahu khayran to everyone.
May Allah help us towards the right way, amin
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,
