She loves me!

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ipanda

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My muslima friend finally told me she feels the same way as me. She is a devoted muslimah and I have no real idea as to how it will end but for now, I am glad to know that the difference in our faiths didn't stop us from experiencing a romantic relationship!

Blessed be the God of love and mercy.
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
you call her a devoted muslimah, then how you can speak about romantic relationship??

maybe she is going through crush which is blind. i really hope that you will remind her of her duties towards her Lord and limits.

her love should be preserved for her hubby. *a muslim hubby* :)

peace
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
:salam2:

A "romantic" relationship outside of marriage is strictly forbidden in Islam. Your friend needs to remember there are clear lines in Islam about allowed and forbidden. If you truly care for your friend you would leave her alone, this relationship will do nothing but hurt her and lead her away from her family and faith. It sounds selfish that you care only about your feelings instead of the consequences of your actions.
 

dna1987

Muslim Guy
you call her a devoted muslimah, then how you can speak about romantic relationship??

maybe she is going through crush which is blind. i really hope that you will remind her of her duties towards her Lord and limits.

her love should be preserved for her hubby. *a muslim hubby* :)

peace

Great reply.

It's a crush..which also be considered feelings of "love". It just happens when people are around someone for a while.

My Chinese friend told me this a few days ago. Back when the Communists took over China back in 1949, they were very anti-religious to all religious groups (and he says they still are). What they did with "stubborn" Buddhist monks and Christian nuns was to put them in the same jail cell (both groups vow to remain celibate their entire lives, and have crazy control over their physical hormonal feelings). He said in some cases, some of the monks and nuns managed up to two whole years, some without speaking a single word...but in the end, they all ended up having intercourse with each other. After they started doing it regularly, they were let back out of prison.

So ipanda, don't think that it's the blessed "God of love and mercy" that has made her say this. It goes against what God really wants. It's just because you've been talking to her too much. Her love should be preserved for her Muslim husband. It would've been a lot better if you were Muslim. You could marry her officially and properly then.
 

yasak80

Junior Member
Ipanda,
if you are here it means that you are interested in Islam.
Muslim woman must mary a muslim man. so, can it be a sign that Allah (swt) wants you to come to the true path?
ınshallah this love inside you carries you to islam love.
In islam we love all the prophets of Allah.. But accept what our prophet bringed. He is the last one. Our religion is updated of all religions and forever will stay the true path...

yes, till the world ends...
 

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
Good evening,Kamalakha? with all due respect,How old are you mate if i may ask?For me to know how to talk to you.If you have any question do not hesitate.I guess that is one of the reasons you came here.Be good.Peace be with you.
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
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@ Naw33, your post was fine before ..lol and probably true.

My muslima friend finally told me she feels the same way as me. She is a devoted muslimah and I have no real idea as to how it will end but for now, I am glad to know that the difference in our faiths didn't stop us from experiencing a romantic relationship!

Blessed be the God of love and mercy.

I question your motives in posting this. I don't care how harmless your screename looks (panda's an all that..?), I think you're either very stupid and very ignorant about Islaam (and therefore saw no harm in posting this), or you're actually trying to provoke something.

Two solutions:-

1) If you're ignorant, know that what you're on about is unacceptable, go learn something about Islaam, isn't that why you joined the site?
2) If you're trying to provoke something, then think again; moderators will deal with you shortly.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

If she is a Muslim and she has feelings for you and you have mutal feelings for her..you can do one of two things.
One revert to Islam..if you love her.
If you can not accept Islam walk away..she will always remain a Muslim..

Sister..they call each other mates because they ain't Americans or else they would call each other bros
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
peace be with you Ipanda,

well, I believe everyone said what needs to be said.....I just wanted to include that if there is actually a pure love between you too. You will not proceed in this matter because in a Muslim's life, the love for Allaah is greater!! and my sister in Islam will do better insha'Allaah. as my brothers and sisters mentioned before, there is NO such thing as "romantic relationship" in Islam...there is marriage and considering your religion, she cannot marry you !!
I advice you to learn more about Islam and see if its the truth for you and your beliefs. If you become a Muslim, proceed in this best manner and seek my sister's hand in marriage......if you dont, please do not hurt her heart and cause her pain.

Thank you,
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
I wonder what the point of posting this was...

Honestly, if you think you love her and won't revert then walk away. You'll only serve to confuse her and hurt her. She will be hurt, one way or another, if she gets involved with a non-Muslim if she really is devoted like you say she is - either by you, her conscience, or her family and friends.

Don't revert just for her sake either.
 

Aisya al-Humaira

الحمدلله على كل حال
Hi.

I remember you posting a thread asking if it is ok for a non-Muslim man marrying a Muslimah a while ago, right?

Well, needless to say, all has been said here. BTW, since you said she is a devoted Muslimah, in what way were you judging her devoteness? I am no way questioning about her faith, but just want to point out, if she happens to be a very devoted Muslimah (Allaah knows best), falling in love before marriage will be a test of her faith and if she doesnt prevent this "love" from growing, it'll be a *huge* struggle for her and it will hurt her very, very deep. She'll be lost and the love wont help her in any way. Trust me, I know how it feels.

So, Ipanda, since you are the one posting this (if it was the sister, Im sure all will tell her to stop keeping in touch with you), I urge you to leave her if you feel that you truly love her. Dont let human's love (the feelings that you thought as love) come in her way for her love to Allaah. Sometimes, true love is when you wish for the happiness of that person, even if it is meant to be with someone else.

Good day.
 

ipanda

Junior Member
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Hi Everyone,

Blessings to you all and thank you for your replies.

1st. Some of you think I was tryin to cause something here. I had absolutely no intention of causing anyone any harm nor I was trying to insult Islam thru the post. If it comes to you in this way, please accept my sincere apology.

2nd. I am not a Muslim, yes, but I do know a lot about it. I have copy of Quran that I read every night when I go to bed. And I might not know which verse says what, but I bet I know the core foundations of Islam (say the 5 pillars etc) and so, I am not really ignorant of Islam by all standards. And also, please understand that I respect Islam and muslims.

3rd. I really don't get this part "romantic relationship." is not part of an Islamic way of life. I have seen it happen pretty much although it is mostly hidden. May be we differ in the definition of it all but my point was and is that I have "romantic feelings" towards the girl and she has the same for me. I am not really sure if this "feelings" are sinful in front of Allah but someone enlighten me if there is more to know about this subject.

4th. She is devoted Muslimah in that her feelings or relationship didn't change her life. Husband is suppose to see her hair, but no matter what, she is always dressed really appropriately in front of me, alone or with friends. Always wears hijab, don't drink and more than all, she is proud to be Muslimah and does stand up for it. I think this are some sings of devotion. I know what some of you may be thinking; if she is devoted, she can't love a non-muslim. I am not an expert on attraction but I can gurantee you there is no pre-defined law who you can be attracted too. Killing your attraction for the sake of Allah and your faith is one thing, yes, i am aware.

To that person who said this is Satan screwing up with us, first, what a bad thought came to your mind. If there was Satan, I think things would have been awful and bad. Don't you think I would have forced her to expose herself to me or more? I still respect her and yes, I intend to marry her out of love and respect. Sorry but I don't think there is anything wrong with it in that I have no bad intention for her at all.

4th. To that person who called me stupid, thank you very much. And may the blessings of Allah continue to shower on you. But I don't think that's the word to use. I think the fact that I am not muslim - at least yet - makes people hate me so much here at TTI. I cant help it but I am really glad that the Prophet (PBUH) loves me even though I am not one of his followers - again, at least yet.

5th. It sounds like some of you believe me loving her, she loing me or us marrying will hurt her. For once, none of you didn't think about me? Is it cos I am not Muslim? I didn't force her to love me, I will not force her to marry me at all. Like I said, things will be clearer in the future. And like yasak80, said who knows if she is meant to lead me to Islam somehow? And I do know her family very well and they know me. Should they disapprove anything, they are welcome to talk to me and I would be gladly let her go.

Perhaps there is something missing but for the first time since my membership at TTI, i am starting to feel as though non-muslims are hated by the muslim members.

Once again, thanks everyone for your replies. May you continue to be blessed. And may Allah lead us to the right path.
 

MohammedMaksudul

May Allah Forgive us
:salam2:

Brother ipanda, Islam completely condemns relationships before marriage as purely Forbidden. And Hijab in Islam does not only mean that a girl is not allowed to show her hair to other guys and only to her husband. It is a mean of protecting onces chastity and taking preventive measures for that. For example, she can not get in touch and interact with other men unless otherwise it is necessary for which she can't go to anyone else, like a doctor, etc. Other than that the concept of being friends with other guys for both a muslim and a muslimah is not accepted in Islam to be in the least and let alone growing feelings of love. Simply, no unnecessary mingling is allowed. Following is a post which will give you references from the Quran, etc and will show you that whatever you are trying to establish is wrong. And by the way Sister JenGiove is a non-muslim, you may go and ask her how we treat her. You can search her up here in TTI and talk to her about this. And you can also ask other regular non-muslim TTI users.

She likes someone and he asked her to go out with him, what should she do?
I am asking you for help. I like a young man and he asked me to go out with him, but I do not know what I should say to him. I am confused, please help me.

Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly:

We are very happy that you have asked us for help with this matter before going ahead with it. We only like for you what we would like for our own daughters and sisters. Protect the most valuable thing that you have, and beware of letting the shaytaan trick you with so-called love or fun.

My daughter, we would be very happy if you prayed regularly, wore hijab, acquired the characteristics of chastity and modesty, and adhered to the teachings of Islam which came to raise man’s status and purify him.

We would be very sad that if you did the opposite of that, and the Shaytaan tricked you and lead you to your doom, so that you would be like a lamb that is led to the slaughter without realizing it.

This is a serious matter, not a joke. Many other girls have gone down this path which led to loss, and they regretted it, but that came when it was too late, at a time when regret was to no avail. On this site you will find many such stories from which you will learn a lesson; beware of becoming a lesson to others.

Secondly:

It is not permissible for a woman to form a relationship with any man who is a stranger (non-mahram) to her, even if her intention is to get married, because Allaah has forbidden being alone with a non-mahram member of the opposite sex, or shaking hands with her or looking at her, except in the case of necessity such as proposing marriage or giving testimony; it is also forbidden for a woman to flaunt her adornment or to uncover her ‘awrah in front of non-mahram men, or to go out among them wearing perfume or to speak softly to men. These prohibitions are known from the evidence of the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and no exceptions are made for one who wants to get married or even for one who is actually proposing marriage, because a fiancé is still a non-mahram and a stranger to the woman until the marriage contract is done.

1 – The reports that indicate that it is haraam to be alone with a non-mahram woman even if she is with her fiancé include the report narrated by al-Bukhaari (3006) and Muslim (1341) from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) who heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “No man should be alone with a woman.”

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No, no man is alone with a woman but the third one present is the Shaytaan.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (2165), classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

2 – The evidence that indicates that it is haraam for a man to look at a woman includes the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts). That is purer for them. Verily, Allaah is All‑Aware of what they do”

[al-Noor 24:30]

Muslim (2159) narrated that Jareer ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about an accidental look and he commanded me to avert my gaze.

An accidental look is when one’s gaze happens to fall on a woman without one intending it, such as when a man is looking where he is going and so on.

As for a woman, she may look at a man without desire, if there is no risk of fitnah, but if there is any desire or risk of fitnah then it is not permissible.

3 – The evidence that it is haraam to shake hands with a non-mahram woman is the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “If one of you were to be stabbed in the head with an iron needle, that would be better for him than if he were to touch a woman who is not permissible for him.” Narrated by al-Tabaraani from the hadeeth of Ma’qil ibn Yasaar; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, no. 5045. The sin in this case is on both the man and the woman.

4 – The evidence that it is haraam for a woman to flaunt herself and show her adornment before non-mahram men is the hadeeth narrated by Muslim (2128) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen. People with whips like the tails of cattle with which they beat the people, and women who are clothed yet naked, going astray and leading others astray, with their heads looking like the humps of bakht camels, leaning to one side. They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance may be detected from such and such a distance.”

The bakht camel is a type of camel that has a long neck.

5 – The evidence that it is haraam for a woman to go out wearing perfume so that non-mahram men can smell its fragrance is the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Any woman who puts on perfume then passes among the people so that they can smell its fragrance is an adulteress.” Nararted by al-Nasaa’i (5126), Abu Dawood (4173) and al-Tirmidhi (2786); classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Nasaa’i.

6 – The evidence that it is haraam to speak softly to men is the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep your duty (to Allaah), then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy, or evil desire for adultery) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner”

[al-Ahzaab 33:32]

If this applies to the pure Mothers of the Believers, then it applies even more so to other women.

Thirdly:

That which is called love between a man and a non-mahram woman is bound to include some of these haraam matters, if not all of them or more. May Allaah keep us and you safe from all evil.

What you have to do is repent to Allaah and beware of His wrath and punishment. Break off all ties with this young man immediately and do not think of meeting him. Do not respond to his request to go out with you, rather you should cut off all contact with him completely. The beginning of this evil is when your heart feels attracted to him, then the Shaytaan may gradually lead you to look at him, and speak to him, until you feel love for him. So do not make matters worse by speaking to him or going out with him.

Remember that many calamities begin with small steps, then things happen that no one imagined. How often has a young woman trusted herself too much and thought that that young man would never do anything to her, then the result was that she lost everything. Then this wolf who used to visit her and who wanted to marry her withdraws, because she is no longer fit for him. How can he trust her when she has allowed herself to form a relationship with a man who is not her mahram?

When we say this to you, we are saying it as sincere advice and because we want the best for you. We ask Allaah to protect you from all evils.

And Allaah knows best.
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/84089

May Allah Subh'ana Wa Ta'ala Guide us.
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
salam alaikum all
we r just wasting out time in reading and replying
i think it is something like trick.....anyways, who wants to destroy the harmony and potray a bad image of muslims.

I think moderators will have a 2nd eye on ipanda
Im just saying: it can be, ofcourse not for sure.

JazakAllah khair
wassalam
 

Men of Allah

Ya Allah,Ya Rahim.
My muslima friend finally told me she feels the same way as me. She is a devoted muslimah and I have no real idea as to how it will end but for now, I am glad to know that the difference in our faiths didn't stop us from experiencing a romantic relationship!

Blessed be the God of love and mercy.

Congratulation for you...:hijabi:
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
Congratulation for you...:hijabi:

As salamu 'alaikum waramathulah wabarakathu
Do you really mean it?Astagfirullah.
Congratulate when he converts to Islam. Do not congratulate when a person is committing sin.

If we stop posting on this thread, eventually this thread will get lost. We don't need to waste our time on such threads. I am wondering why this thread is not being deleted or closed.


As salamu 'alaikum waramathulah wabarakathu
 
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