Marriage with cousin

dawahforever

Junior Member
Asalaamu Alaikum

Its legal in Canada too but we don't believe in it because we see our cousins as our siblings so it seems gross to us. How can you marry someone that looks like your sibling? Also we are afraid of birth defects because the royal family always only marries within the royal family and they have bleeding problems. As far as the Khan last name I read that people are not even related with that name necessarily since they just adopted that name as a status symbol. I think Prophet Muhammad encouraged people to marry people who are not related to you more often. And its a good idea since it helps to spread Islam and also makes your genes stronger.

Wa Salaamu Alaikum
D4E:hijabi:
 

ama6621

Junior Member
Assalam Alaikum
A few years ago (maybe 5-6?) I read a newspaper reports that 2 hindus from India who were cousins and in love and couldn't get married either because of the Hindu marriage law or their parents wouldn't let them or both (can't remember well enough now) converted to Islam because islamic law would let them marry :)

Assalam Alaikum
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
Salaam,

I am seeing a lot of misunderstanding about genetics and co-sanguinous marriages. (when people are related) Someone mentioned the royal family and bleeding disorders, are you aware this was not from imbreeding but because Queen Victoria carried the gene for hemophilia?

She had many daughters who were silent carriers of this gene and they were married to princes from foreign countries. Because males only have one X chromosome, if they inherited this defective chromosome from their mother then they were hemophiliacs. So what we have

Someone also mentioned that it is a lie that children from co-sanguinous couplings have congenital defects such as heart issues. This fact is very true and has been made evidenced throughout history. While not even the majority of the offspring are affected, there is a higher incidence of congenital anomalies from co-sanguinous marriage compared to the average population.

Wasalaam

~Sarah
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
Am I wrong for not liking this idea?

Salaam,

It is okay not to want to practice it if that is what you mean. The problem lies wherein someon tries to say it is wrong for cousins to marry when Islam clearly permits it. I am not a strong enough woman to be married to a brother that practices polygamy, something I have been very straight forward with the man I plan to marry, Inshallah. But it's not like I am wrong because I do not wish to practice polygyny, rather the sin would be if I declared it wrong for everyone else.

Am I making sense?

Wasalaam

~Sarah
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
Cousins are fair game, though, incredibly creepy if you grew up with them as being a close member of your family. No problem, in my opinion, if you never really saw them much. But whatever floats your boat. Totally different cultures.
 

q8penpals

Junior Member
SAlam

In the US state that I am from (since many states have different laws), a person can only marry a 1st degree cousin if one or both of the couple are verified to be unable to bear children.

Somewhere I used to have a link about the 50 states and different rulings in each (there are some states that totally forbid marriage of 1st degree cousins, other that allow it freely, and others that put conditions), so noe can't say that the "US" does it one way or another, because each state makes their own laws.

That said, in my area of the US, you are raised with your cousins very close, like brothers and sisters, and yes, to me and my family, it would be incredibly creepy to marry a cousin, even if it were freely allowed legally.

Lana
 

q8penpals

Junior Member
US States Guidelines for marriage of cousin (1st degree)
From: http://www.ncsl.org/programs/cyf/cousins.htm

State Laws Regarding Marriages Between First Cousins

Twenty-five states prohibit marriages between first cousins. Six states allow first cousin marriage under certain circumstances, and North Carolina allows first cousin marriage but prohibits double-cousin marriage. States generally recognize marriages of first cousins married in a state where such marriages are legal.

***********There was a map here, but I am only putting the text****

Cousin marriage legal
Alabama
Alaska
California
Colorado
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina*
Rhode Island
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vermont
Virginia
First cousin marriage prohibited
Arkansas
Delaware
Idaho
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Texas
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming
Allowed under certain circumstances
Arizona
Illinois
Indiana
Maine
Utah
Wisconsin​


First cousin marriage is allowed in these states under the following circumstances:
Arizona- if both are 65 or older, or one is unable to reproduce.
Illinois- if both are 50 or older, or one is unable to reproduce.
Indiana- if both are at least 65.
Maine- if couple obtains a physician's certificate of genetic counseling.
Utah- if both are 65 or older, or if both are 55 or older and one is unable to reproduce.
Wisconsin- if the woman is 55 or older, or one is unable to reproduce.​

*
North Carolina- First cousin marriage is legal. Double cousin marriage is prohibited​


*********Double cousin (That occurs when, for instance, two brothers from one family marry two sisters from another; if each couple has a child, those offspring are double cousins.) **********

 

mohammeduk

New Member
marraige with cousin

Salaams,

I am actually married to my first cousin, but she was born and bought up in India and I was in UK.

I am also Indian like her

I've never had any problems.

I personally had been in with contact with many Arabs from mainly Middleast as per my previous business and certainly there were some Arabs whom I had contact with were married to their cousins and inner-family circles sometimes their wives were their first cousins

But I knew one Arab from Kuwait who told me he wouldn't prefer to marry a cousin as if they had any problems within their relationship it would cause family to break up

Wa-salam
 

Obase

Speaks his mind...
please back this up with evidence... otherwise don't mention it, lest you fall into the sin of falsly propogating information... jazakallah Khair

Well said. I think as a muslim you should only quote authenticated ahadeeth or statements that can be attributed to the Messenger from one of the sahabah/ta'bieen etc wthout any doubt in it.
 

q8penpals

Junior Member
Salam

I think if you wish to marry your cousin, you need to look at the big picture. If your parents, or grandparents were themselves, cousins to each other, that is when the genetic problems become the worst. It is not just a cousin marrying a cousin - it is the compounding of cousin marrying cousin, and their kids marrying a cousin, their kids marrying a cousin, etc.

In Kuwait, there are many students that I have that are the product of multiple generations of in-family marriage, and it is obvious there is not much left in the family gene pool to go around.

There was a study done here and found that 37% of the Kuwaitis suffer from mental disorders (http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MTU2Mjc5MDc3MQ==). They need to get more new blood into the family lines here!

So, if you are interested in marrying one of your cousins, just make sure you are educated and informed.

Lana
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Salaam,

There is no absoulte scientific study that states marriage amongst cousins has a higher birth defect rate. Only the US has some prohibitions. They want gays to marry not cousins. And adopt children.
We can not change that which we were granted. If Allah has allowed it please do not question it.

The big picture Lana is Allah has sanctioned it.

I feel for you working with the Kuwati's...I think of myself working with the descends of Europeans here who have the highest mental health disorders in the country. Did you know depression is linked to being of European descent. This leads to suicide.
 

Amir_of_spain

Junior Member
I love genetics, its one of my fav sciences. In islam cousin marriages are allowed. There is however a hadith that is not from the prophet, but it is from the 3rd khalif UMAR. In this hadith he says to the nearest effect: it is better to marry from a-far, this hadith is weak. However weak hadiths can be used undert certain conditions. The deeper meaning of this hadith from umar is that marrying from afar either gives u stronger progeny ie more healthier children or it expands the family ties between tribes, which is good because if different families are related then it helps to promote peace in the community, ie poeple work and are more friendly togather.
Now coming to the disease aspect, this depends on your grandparents, if 2 cousins has a grandfather that has a disease, there is a statistical probability that the children of these 2 cousins can inherit the recessive gene ie one recessive passes from the grandparent to both cousins, which joins up in their offspring causing disease. So one must look at their family history. However if the grandparents are free from monogenic diseases then the statistical risk compared to the general population is not much at all eg say around 3-5%. Now the real problem occurs when a family has repeated cousin marriages, in this situation, the mixing of the same genes over and over again isnt good, and the risk of a genetic disease becomes more common in the offspring. In asian pakistanis u will find the occurrence of genetic related skin problems in offsprings which is generally higher than rest of the population, this occurs i believe of cousin marriages.
 

habib786

Junior Member
its true u can marry your cousin it is allowed in islam.... in india among muslims it is quite common to marry ones cousins.......Allah hafiz
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Salaam,

Some studies indicate that marriage between cousins is a barrier against diseases. Once again, there is no 100% proof that there is a link.
Here we go again...what is Islamic is questioned and the false science of the kuffir is revered.
 
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