Marriage with cousin

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    Asalaamu Alaikum

    Its legal in Canada too but we don't believe in it because we see our cousins as our siblings so it seems gross to us. How can you marry someone that looks like your sibling? Also we are afraid of birth defects because the royal family always only marries within the royal family and they have bleeding problems. As far as the Khan last name I read that people are not even related with that name necessarily since they just adopted that name as a status symbol. I think Prophet Muhammad encouraged people to marry people who are not related to you more often. And its a good idea since it helps to spread Islam and also makes your genes stronger.

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    please back this up with evidence... otherwise don't mention it, lest you fall into the sin of falsly propogating information... jazakallah Khair
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    Assalam Alaikum
    A few years ago (maybe 5-6?) I read a newspaper reports that 2 hindus from India who were cousins and in love and couldn't get married either because of the Hindu marriage law or their parents wouldn't let them or both (can't remember well enough now) converted to Islam because islamic law would let them marry :)

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    Salaam,

    I am seeing a lot of misunderstanding about genetics and co-sanguinous marriages. (when people are related) Someone mentioned the royal family and bleeding disorders, are you aware this was not from imbreeding but because Queen Victoria carried the gene for hemophilia?

    She had many daughters who were silent carriers of this gene and they were married to princes from foreign countries. Because males only have one X chromosome, if they inherited this defective chromosome from their mother then they were hemophiliacs. So what we have

    Someone also mentioned that it is a lie that children from co-sanguinous couplings have congenital defects such as heart issues. This fact is very true and has been made evidenced throughout history. While not even the majority of the offspring are affected, there is a higher incidence of congenital anomalies from co-sanguinous marriage compared to the average population.

    Wasalaam

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    Am I wrong for not liking this idea?
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    Salaam,

    It is okay not to want to practice it if that is what you mean. The problem lies wherein someon tries to say it is wrong for cousins to marry when Islam clearly permits it. I am not a strong enough woman to be married to a brother that practices polygamy, something I have been very straight forward with the man I plan to marry, Inshallah. But it's not like I am wrong because I do not wish to practice polygyny, rather the sin would be if I declared it wrong for everyone else.

    Am I making sense?

    Wasalaam

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    Cousins are fair game, though, incredibly creepy if you grew up with them as being a close member of your family. No problem, in my opinion, if you never really saw them much. But whatever floats your boat. Totally different cultures.
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    SAlam

    In the US state that I am from (since many states have different laws), a person can only marry a 1st degree cousin if one or both of the couple are verified to be unable to bear children.

    Somewhere I used to have a link about the 50 states and different rulings in each (there are some states that totally forbid marriage of 1st degree cousins, other that allow it freely, and others that put conditions), so noe can't say that the "US" does it one way or another, because each state makes their own laws.

    That said, in my area of the US, you are raised with your cousins very close, like brothers and sisters, and yes, to me and my family, it would be incredibly creepy to marry a cousin, even if it were freely allowed legally.

    Lana
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    US States Guidelines for marriage of cousin (1st degree)
    From: http://www.ncsl.org/programs/cyf/cousins.htm

    State Laws Regarding Marriages Between First Cousins

    Twenty-five states prohibit marriages between first cousins. Six states allow first cousin marriage under certain circumstances, and North Carolina allows first cousin marriage but prohibits double-cousin marriage. States generally recognize marriages of first cousins married in a state where such marriages are legal.

    ***********There was a map here, but I am only putting the text****

    Cousin marriage legal
    Alabama
    Alaska
    California
    Colorado
    Connecticut
    District of Columbia
    Florida
    Georgia
    Hawaii
    Maryland
    Massachusetts
    New Jersey
    New Mexico
    New York
    North Carolina*
    Rhode Island
    South Carolina
    Tennessee
    Vermont
    Virginia
    First cousin marriage prohibited
    Arkansas
    Delaware
    Idaho
    Iowa
    Kansas
    Kentucky
    Louisiana
    Michigan
    Minnesota
    Mississippi
    Missouri
    Montana
    Nebraska
    Nevada
    New Hampshire
    North Dakota
    Ohio
    Oklahoma
    Oregon
    Pennsylvania
    South Dakota
    Texas
    Washington
    West Virginia
    Wyoming
    Allowed under certain circumstances
    Arizona
    Illinois
    Indiana
    Maine
    Utah
    Wisconsin​


    First cousin marriage is allowed in these states under the following circumstances:
    Arizona- if both are 65 or older, or one is unable to reproduce.
    Illinois- if both are 50 or older, or one is unable to reproduce.
    Indiana- if both are at least 65.
    Maine- if couple obtains a physician's certificate of genetic counseling.
    Utah- if both are 65 or older, or if both are 55 or older and one is unable to reproduce.
    Wisconsin- if the woman is 55 or older, or one is unable to reproduce.​

    *
    North Carolina- First cousin marriage is legal. Double cousin marriage is prohibited​


    *********Double cousin (That occurs when, for instance, two brothers from one family marry two sisters from another; if each couple has a child, those offspring are double cousins.) **********

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    marraige with cousin

    Salaams,

    I am actually married to my first cousin, but she was born and bought up in India and I was in UK.

    I am also Indian like her

    I've never had any problems.

    I personally had been in with contact with many Arabs from mainly Middleast as per my previous business and certainly there were some Arabs whom I had contact with were married to their cousins and inner-family circles sometimes their wives were their first cousins

    But I knew one Arab from Kuwait who told me he wouldn't prefer to marry a cousin as if they had any problems within their relationship it would cause family to break up

    Wa-salam
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    Well said. I think as a muslim you should only quote authenticated ahadeeth or statements that can be attributed to the Messenger from one of the sahabah/ta'bieen etc wthout any doubt in it.
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    Salam

    I think if you wish to marry your cousin, you need to look at the big picture. If your parents, or grandparents were themselves, cousins to each other, that is when the genetic problems become the worst. It is not just a cousin marrying a cousin - it is the compounding of cousin marrying cousin, and their kids marrying a cousin, their kids marrying a cousin, etc.

    In Kuwait, there are many students that I have that are the product of multiple generations of in-family marriage, and it is obvious there is not much left in the family gene pool to go around.

    There was a study done here and found that 37% of the Kuwaitis suffer from mental disorders (http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MTU2Mjc5MDc3MQ==). They need to get more new blood into the family lines here!

    So, if you are interested in marrying one of your cousins, just make sure you are educated and informed.

    Lana
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    Salaam,

    There is no absoulte scientific study that states marriage amongst cousins has a higher birth defect rate. Only the US has some prohibitions. They want gays to marry not cousins. And adopt children.
    We can not change that which we were granted. If Allah has allowed it please do not question it.

    The big picture Lana is Allah has sanctioned it.

    I feel for you working with the Kuwati's...I think of myself working with the descends of Europeans here who have the highest mental health disorders in the country. Did you know depression is linked to being of European descent. This leads to suicide.
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    :salam2:

    The Queen in England is married to her cousin.

    Interesting fact...

    :wasalam:
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    I love genetics, its one of my fav sciences. In islam cousin marriages are allowed. There is however a hadith that is not from the prophet, but it is from the 3rd khalif UMAR. In this hadith he says to the nearest effect: it is better to marry from a-far, this hadith is weak. However weak hadiths can be used undert certain conditions. The deeper meaning of this hadith from umar is that marrying from afar either gives u stronger progeny ie more healthier children or it expands the family ties between tribes, which is good because if different families are related then it helps to promote peace in the community, ie poeple work and are more friendly togather.
    Now coming to the disease aspect, this depends on your grandparents, if 2 cousins has a grandfather that has a disease, there is a statistical probability that the children of these 2 cousins can inherit the recessive gene ie one recessive passes from the grandparent to both cousins, which joins up in their offspring causing disease. So one must look at their family history. However if the grandparents are free from monogenic diseases then the statistical risk compared to the general population is not much at all eg say around 3-5%. Now the real problem occurs when a family has repeated cousin marriages, in this situation, the mixing of the same genes over and over again isnt good, and the risk of a genetic disease becomes more common in the offspring. In asian pakistanis u will find the occurrence of genetic related skin problems in offsprings which is generally higher than rest of the population, this occurs i believe of cousin marriages.
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    its true u can marry your cousin it is allowed in islam.... in india among muslims it is quite common to marry ones cousins.......Allah hafiz
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    Salaam,

    Some studies indicate that marriage between cousins is a barrier against diseases. Once again, there is no 100% proof that there is a link.
    Here we go again...what is Islamic is questioned and the false science of the kuffir is revered.

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