Why are we divided?!!

farhopes

No God but Allah
Why are Muslims divided??

I always wonder, "Why are Muslims divided? why do we have to accept that bitter fact?". How do we, our leaders and our religious scholars feel when we read:

"
And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah.s favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you: That ye may be guided."( 3-103)


If we examine, for example the reason of the division between Shia and Sunna, it will be easy to get that it was never a division in faith. It was a political struggle on authority between two very good Muslim brothers. How and why did it change to be division in our faith? Why did we allow it to corrupt our creed?? I think the reason is clear; it is the famous political base " Divide and Rule". Why did we allow those who worship leadership and authority to trade on our faith? It is the love of authority, leadership and our unity was the scapegoat!

We all have one God. We all have one Qur'an in which Allah always enjoins us to unite and addresses us as one nation; the best nation that was ever brought up to humanity. We all have one prophet who warned us from slipping to that shameful slope. Since we all share these holy sources, why then do we insist to be tricked by those who worship nothing but their ill desires; the desires to rule and control? Why should we sacrifice our sacred unity for nothing?

When will we woke up?? When will we gather again around one banner; the banner of Islam? When will we call ourselves Muslims, just Muslims and nothing more?? Is it a far dream??
 

Shahzad

Junior Member
sister a nice post. But it would have been a lot better if didnt take the example of shia / sunni division.
This could lead to many controversies. In my opinion, shias , Qadyanis etc etc all lay in the same plane.
 
Well brother its a sign of qiyamah.

We can try to be in unit whole ummah. I can remember just this hadiths.

Imam Abu Dawood (Rahimahullah) has quoted the well known Hadith concerning the division of the Muslim Ummah into seventy-three sects in his Sunan (3/4580, English ed'n): Abu Amir al-Hawdhani said, "Mu'awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan (may Allah be pleased with him) stood among us and said, 'Beware! The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) stood among us and said': 'Beware! The People of the Book before (you) were split up into 72 sects, and this community will be split up into 73, seventy-two of them will go to Hell and one of them will go to Paradise, and it is the majority group (Jama'ah).

I think to save ourself we should stay with that jamah which has majority.
 

halah

Junior Member
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Why are Muslims divided??



When will we woke up?? When will we gather again around one banner; the banner of Islam? When will we call ourselves Muslims, just Muslims and nothing more?? Is it a far dream??

:salam2:It's very nice to have your posts again dear sister:hearts:,I wonder if you can read minds?????????couple of days ago I was totaly occupied by this idea...Why we often focus on the points of dispute instead of striving to get an united area and build upon it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(
 
Salaam,

I can't stress this issue any more than you. It's our lack of ignorance and being uneducated Muslims.

There were many internal and external factors led to the emergence of some reprehensible divisions following the three best generations (i.e. Sahabas, Taabi’een, etc).

Among the external causes of that were:

Mixing with other, non-Muslim nations, such as the Persians, Romans, Indians and Greeks, and contact with other religious groups such as Jews, Christians, Sabians, Magians, Indian religions and others.

Among the internal causes were:

Following whims and desires, giving room to doubts, turning away from learning the religion and sharee’ah of Allaah, ignorance, extremism, and imitation of non-Muslims, adding cultural practices to the religion which lead to bidah (innovation).

All of these reasons, and others, led to some small groups splitting from the right path which the majority of the Muslims followed, so there emerged some groups, innovations and opinions that differed from the path of the Prophet saw and his Companions, and the Taabi’een and those who followed their path.

Also Allah warned us about making division in Islam and creating sects

(30:32) Those who split up their religion, and become (mere) Sects,- each party rejoicing in that which is with itself!

May Allah swt keep this ummah united. Division amongst the people is the easiest method to conquer a country or a group of people. Today's Islamic world speaks for itself.
 

farhopes

No God but Allah
The devilish plan!

Yes it is so painful to see the best nation divided to many sects because they allowed themselves to be tricked by political plan. I do like to call it the devilish plan as it has something to do with the Devil's work.

I was discussing that topic with a knowledgeable friend who told me that once a leader divides a group, later leaders want to make it distinctively divided, so they take on rituals and customs to deepen the division. Thus the the gulf of the division becomes bigger as times go by.

We all should know that we are one Muslim nation ( ummah) and we can never regain our strength unless we unite again and be one Muslim Ummah.
I hope it is not a far dream inshaa Allah.
 

jabba

Salafi Dawah is the best
Why are Muslims divided???

:salam2:
Because you get topics like "are these Shias Good" and comments like "In my opinion, shias , Qadyanis etc etc all lay in the same plane" Obviously, and sadly we will never be able to unite because of things like this:wasalam:
 

warda A

Sister
politics

Yes it is so painful to see the best nation divided to many sects because they allowed themselves to be tricked by political plan. I do like to call it the devilish plan as it has something to do with the Devil's work.

I was discussing that topic with a knowledgeable friend who told me that once a leader divides a group, later leaders want to make it distinctively divided, so they take on rituals and customs to deepen the division. Thus the the gulf of the division becomes bigger as times go by.

We all should know that we are one Muslim nation ( ummah) and we can never regain our strength unless we unite again and be one Muslim Ummah.
I hope it is not a far dream inshaa Allah.

:salam2:

you are 100% correct
this is all politics, the only way some people can rule is by dividing the ummah for their own desires i.e wealth and power.

those two are very strong trials for people and because the rulers do not fear anymore meaning their eman has weakened, they do as they wish

:wasalam:
 

farhopes

No God but Allah
assalamo alikom

:salam2:

No doubt we will be divided. There will be ikhtilaf

Brother, there are two kinds of Ikhtilaf( disagreement); positive and negative. Positive Ikhtilaf is permissible in Islam and it is a kind of mercy for all Muslims. We have different religious scholars who have different interpretation for the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah according to their understanding and their Igtihad(diligence). Division is something else; it is an epidemic that should be resisted. We were one united Myuslim nation, Allah sobhanahu wa ta'ala and his messenger wanted us to be one united Ummah and warned us from division and sectarianism.
 

farhopes

No God but Allah
fear!!

:salam2:
Because you get topics like "are these Shias Good" and comments like "In my opinion, shias , Qadyanis etc etc all lay in the same plane" Obviously, and sadly we will never be able to unite because of things like this:wasalam:

leaders know psychology very well and they exploited it to divide people. They work on the human need to be different. We all have this psychological need to be unique and different. We all tend to wear unique clothes and we have desire to feel special .... we want others to see our uniqueness. This is a human need. Groups are the same; they tend to be different and distinguished. Leaders exploited this and used religion, rituals and customs to make us distinctively different. When they succeded in this, it became easily then to split us into conflicting sects.

They also exploited " fear" to widen and deepen our sectarianism. They tell us that if we do not follow their sect, we won't get into paradise as if they own this paradise!!! If we are aware enough of our religion and know that we have only one way we all have to follow which is the way of the the holy Qur'an and prophet pbuh, we will be able to unite again and defeat those who exploited our ignorance. The prophet told us in a very wonderful Hadith that he left us the holy Qur'an and his Sunnah, all we should do is to adhere to them very strongly so that no one can ever mislead us.
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
The tawhid of Allaah and the authentic `aqeedah of islaam is what united the tribes of khazraj and aws in madinah, which caused them to become mutual brothers to one another, whereas previously they were enemies to eachother. Imam Maalik, rahimahullaah said,
"The last part of this ummah will not be rectified except by that which rectified the first part."

So look into the way of the salaf, the first part of this ummah, by following their methodology we can inshaa Allaah unite, and it is the only way. They wrote many books on `aqeedah such as Imam At-Tahawi's `Aqeedat ut-Tahaawiyyah, Imam Ahmads Usool us-Sunnah, Ibn Abee Daawoods Haa'iyah poem, Sharh us-Sunnah of Imam Barbahaaree and Imam As-Saabonee wrote a book similar to these. If you read just these texts you will come to know that very few people posses the aqeedah that these righteous Imam's and flag bearers of this Ummah carried. In the later generations, similar books like Ibn Qudaamah's, Lum`at ul-I`tiqaad were written (he was a student of the Imam of the Hanaabillah in his time, `Abdul-Qadir Al-Jeelaanee) and the books of Ibn Taymiyyah like his `Aqeedat ul-Waasitiyyah, `Aqeedat ut-Hamawiyyah.

Like I said, many of us do not posses this `aqeedah that the earlier Muslims were united upon (save a few deviant sects). Now we have a large number of sects, 1 of which sticks to this path, the one and only straight path.

Alhamdulillaah, I noticed that many of the Muslim youth (by youth i mean anyone who isn't old lol) are turning back to Islaam, more importantly away from the innovation and superstition that they were taught is islaam, back to the pure and authentic creed that caused the Muslims to be established in their lands!

Brother, there are two kinds of Ikhtilaf( disagreement); positive and negative. Positive Ikhtilaf is permissible in Islam and it is a kind of mercy for all Muslims. We have different religious scholars who have different interpretation for the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah according to their understanding and their Igtihad(diligence). Division is something else; it is an epidemic that should be resisted. We were one united Myuslim nation, Allah sobhanahu wa ta'ala and his messenger wanted us to be one united Ummah and warned us from division and sectarianism.

Yes, the type of lawful ikhtilaaf is for example in matter of fiqh. But the `aqeedah is one and only one. As for the saying that it is a kind of mercy for the Muslims, well I heard this many times before (by way of the hadith) saying to myself, "alhamdulillaah", until knowledge of its reality came to me!!!

إجتلاف أمتي رحمة
"Disagreement among my Ummah is a (source of) mercy"​

The hadeeth is untraceable (big problem) due to this, As-Suyootee declared that it was probably recorded in one of the works that have been lost. However the Ummah have preserved the ahadeeth so this has been ruled out by some of the `Ullema. As-Subki (it's funny since many of his staunch followers will oft quote this hadeeth) said that the hadeeth has no basis, i.e. it not being either saheeh, da`eef or mawdoo`. Imams such as Zakatiyyah Ansaari agreed with him (As-Subki) in this regard [Tafsir Baidaawi].

Ibn Hazm Al-Andaloosee said in Al-Ihkaam fil-Ahkaam, "if disagreements are a cause of mercy, then surely agreements will be a cause of anger" lol.
 

nyerekareem

abdur-rahman
:salam2:

the ummah is divided because we have been disobedient to ALLAH SWT. we all know that we should be united, but many of us have turned or backs on ALLAH SWT for the things of the dunya, yet there are many that are striving to enter the jannah inshallah. there is where the conflict lies. we cannot make progress, while turning our back on ALLAH SWT, but we can make progress if we turn to Him. many of us our making du'a to ALLAH SWT for a nice home, nice car, nice wife, and jannah; they want all the barakah in this life and in the hereafter while planting the seeds of hellfire. how can our du'a be heard like this?

1. we have to give up our disobedience
2. we have to perform lot's of dhikr. remember the saying during the salah " sami allahu liman hamidah " god hears those who praise him.
3.we need to gain ilm, boost imaan, and have patience.
4. we have to put uniting the ummah into action, not just by words.
5. we have to learn to understand and accept the will of ALLAH SWT and to be grateful for whatever he bestows us with.
:wasalam:
 

jabba

Salafi Dawah is the best
:salam2:

the ummah is divided because we have been disobedient to ALLAH SWT. we all know that we should be united, but many of us have turned or backs on ALLAH SWT for the things of the dunya, yet there are many that are striving to enter the jannah inshallah. there is where the conflict lies. we cannot make progress, while turning our back on ALLAH SWT, but we can make progress if we turn to Him. many of us our making du'a to ALLAH SWT for a nice home, nice car, nice wife, and jannah; they want all the barakah in this life and in the hereafter while planting the seeds of hellfire. how can our du'a be heard like this?

1. we have to give up our disobedience
2. we have to perform lot's of dhikr. remember the saying during the salah " sami allahu liman hamidah " god hears those who praise him.
3.we need to gain ilm, boost imaan, and have patience.
4. we have to put uniting the ummah into action, not just by words.
5. we have to learn to understand and accept the will of ALLAH SWT and to be grateful for whatever he bestows us with.
:wasalam:


:salam2:
this is sooo sad because everything you wrote is 100% true....:wasalam:
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
:salam2:

the ummah is divided because we have been disobedient to ALLAH SWT. we all know that we should be united, but many of us have turned or backs on ALLAH SWT for the things of the dunya, yet there are many that are striving to enter the jannah inshallah. there is where the conflict lies. we cannot make progress, while turning our back on ALLAH SWT, but we can make progress if we turn to Him. many of us our making du'a to ALLAH SWT for a nice home, nice car, nice wife, and jannah; they want all the barakah in this life and in the hereafter while planting the seeds of hellfire. how can our du'a be heard like this?

1. we have to give up our disobedience
2. we have to perform lot's of dhikr. remember the saying during the salah " sami allahu liman hamidah " god hears those who praise him.
3.we need to gain ilm, boost imaan, and have patience.
4. we have to put uniting the ummah into action, not just by words.
5. we have to learn to understand and accept the will of ALLAH SWT and to be grateful for whatever he bestows us with.
:wasalam:

Maa shaa Allaah, I've heard countless duroos in which is stated that the acts fo disobedience are a cause of differing.
 
the easiest answer is our hearts got corrupt n we all think that we r better than the other one in other words we got too prideful!
 
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Aloosh12

Guest
if quraan says we must tunited under the rope of allah doesn it shows that the hadith is fraud?
 
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aynur7

Guest
About "being on the same plate." I don't think it's a way of talking approved in islam. "Say useful things otherwise don't talk."
 

abou haytam

Junior Member
Why are Muslims divided??

I always wonder, "Why are Muslims divided? why do we have to accept that bitter fact?". How do we, our leaders and our religious scholars feel when we read:

"
And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah.s favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you: That ye may be guided."( 3-103)


If we examine, for example the reason of the division between Shia and Sunna, it will be easy to get that it was never a division in faith. It was a political struggle on authority between two very good Muslim brothers. How and why did it change to be division in our faith? Why did we allow it to corrupt our creed?? I think the reason is clear; it is the famous political base " Divide and Rule". Why did we allow those who worship leadership and authority to trade on our faith? It is the love of authority, leadership and our unity was the scapegoat!

We all have one God. We all have one Qur'an in which Allah always enjoins us to unite and addresses us as one nation; the best nation that was ever brought up to humanity. We all have one prophet who warned us from slipping to that shameful slope. Since we all share these holy sources, why then do we insist to be tricked by those who worship nothing but their ill desires; the desires to rule and control? Why should we sacrifice our sacred unity for nothing?

When will we woke up?? When will we gather again around one banner; the banner of Islam? When will we call ourselves Muslims, just Muslims and nothing more?? Is it a far dream??

salam sister;

what kind of unity are talking about? a unity for life matter or a unity for religious matter.

i invite you to learn about shiisme and you will change your mind about the exemple you gave about *!*!*!*!..

check this plz:

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