Visiting non muslim grave

zinirah

Junior Member
:salam2:

I have to visit someones grave for urgent reasons , but you see it's my grandfathers grave & he is non Muslim. Um i don't know what one does if they visit a non Muslims grave..or if we are even allowed to visit non Muslims grave ...hmm maybe no one can help me on this one?What should i do?
 

zinirah

Junior Member
Of course you can! Be sure to recite the Fatiha. May Allah Have Mercy on his soul.

Yeah i wasnt sure, because i once heard that we are not suppose to read Quran for non muslim...is this true? I thought we can't pray for the kafir for the reason that they died in disbelief of islam..?That's why i'm asking this...i already know everything about what we do at a muslims grave.
 

JenGiove

Junior Member

Yeah i wasnt sure, because i once heard that we are not suppose to read Quran for non muslim...is this true? I thought we can't pray for the kafir for the reason that they died in disbelief of islam..?That's why i'm asking this...i already know everything about what we do at a muslims grave.

Sister,
I don't know yet the ruling for Non-Muslim but I did find this. I'll update as I find more.

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/36513/visiting graves

Is it permissible to read Qur’aan at the grave?.

Praise be to Allaah.
Reading Qur’aan at the grave is not prescribed in Islam because there is no report that says that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did that.​
The Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas was asked: Is it permissible to read al-Faatihah or anything from the Qur’aan for the deceased when visiting his grave, and does that benefit him?
They replied:
It is proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to visit graves, and he would recite du’aa’s for the dead that he taught to his companions and they learned them from him. For example: “Al-salaamu ‘alaykum ahl al-diyaar min al-mu’mineen wa’l-Muslimeen, wa inna in sha Allaah bikum laahiqoon, nas’al Allaaha lana wa lakum al-‘aafiyah (Peace be upon you, O people of the dwellings, believers and Muslims. If Allaah wills we will join you. We ask Allaah to grant us and you safety).”
But there is no report that he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) recited a soorah of the Qur’aan or any verses thereof for the dead, even though he visited them often. If that had been prescribed, he would have done it and would have taught it to his companions, seeking the reward and out of mercy towards his ummah, and fulfilling the obligation to convey the message. For he was as Allaah described him (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, there has come unto you a Messenger (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty. He (Muhammad) is anxious over you; for the believers (he is) full of pity, kind, and merciful”
[al-Tawbah 9:128]
The fact that he did not do that even though there were reasons why he might have done it indicates that it is not prescribed. His companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) knew that and followed in his footsteps, and they limited themselves to learning lessons and making du’aa’ for the dead when they visited them. There is no report that they read Qur’aan for the dead. For them such reading was an innovation (bid’ah), and it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours [i.e., Islam] that is not part of it will have it rejected.” Agreed upon.​
From Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 9/38
 

zinirah

Junior Member
oops ok never mind i got the answer to my question in this book i have. Just remembered it said "If a Muslim visits the grave of a Kaafir, he does not greet him with salaams or make du'a for him;rather he should give him the tidings of Hell" So basically we can visit the graves to learn a lesson, but not to pray for them etc.
I was just confused about it, because I havent really been to non muslims funeral before.
 

zinirah

Junior Member
Sister,
I don't know yet the ruling for Non-Muslim but I did find this. I'll update as I find more.

Yes, thank you for this, it furthur confirms what I also read, but more info thanks. Yeah like i said i never really been to a funeral before so i don't know this kind of stuff.
 

zinirah

Junior Member
I'm slightly confused. Are you going to a funeral or just to the grave to visit?

Just to visit a grave...you see it's a long story...and it's weird too, and i am supposely suppose to visit the grave of my granfather...maybe i'm just being gulible.If you knew the story you would be freaked out. Maybe i am superstitious.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

In Islam we are to exhibit the best of manners at all times. When we visit the grave of a non-Muslim and show respect to the family our behavior can impact the family and soften the hearts of non-Muslims towards Islam.

We, mere humans, do not know the contents of the hearts of others, thus we would never want to be presumptuous and speak ill of the dead. They have met Allah subhana talla.

We simply have to make preparations for own death.
 

JenGiove

Junior Member

Just to visit a grave...you see it's a long story...and it's weird too, and i am supposely suppose to visit the grave of my granfather...maybe i'm just being gulible.If you knew the story you would be freaked out. Maybe i am superstitious.

Sister,
I've lived a long and scary life. There is little that frightens me nowadays. If you'd like to "bounce" your thoughts off me, you may do so. Either here or in pm. It matters not to me which you prefer, if you so choose to.
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
:salam2:

First of all, there is no 'fatiha' to be read on the grave. Thank you sister JenGiove for the fatwa link. The dua proven from the Sunnah is as follows :-

http://www.islamawareness.net/Dua/Fortress/060.html

As sister zinirah mentioned, dua can not be made for deceased non muslim family member. The Prophet SallAllahu Alleihi Wa Sallam didn't make any dua for his deceased mother for this same reason.

Lastly, drawing your attention to what the scholars have mentioned about women visiting graves. Please read below :-

Paying visits by Muslim men to cemeteries is a practice of the sunnah, and it reminds one of his destiny so that he may strive for it. As the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:

"I [once] had forbid you from visiting graves, [and I now enjoin] you to do so, so that the visit may serve as a beneficial reminder." (related by Muslim and others)

and in the version of al-Haakim:

"… for [such visits] soften the heart, bring tears to the eyes, and serve as a reminder of the Hereafter, [but be careful] not to speak forbidden expressions [i.e. while visiting]." (Sahih al-Jaami' 4584)

Concerning visits to cemeteries by women, scholars have varied opinions on this issue:

it is allowed or preferred and their case is similar to that of men

it is makrooh (reprehensible), which is the opinion of jumhoor ul-'ulemaa' (the majority of the scholars)

it is forbidden, this one probably being the strongest opinion, as indicated by al-hadith al-sahih in which the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:

"Allaah has cursed women who frequent graves," related by Ahmed and Tirmidhi and Ibn Maajah and in one version,

"Allaah has cursed women who visit graves and those who build mosques and place lights upon them." (related by Abu Dawood, al-Tirmidhi, al-Nisaa'i and al-Haakim)

This condemnation would warrant the validity of the argument against women visiting cemeteries as the lawmaker (i.e. Allaah) would not condemn something that is permissible or reprehensible—only that which is forbidden completely.

Regarding what would be the reason for this condemnation, the scholars have cited two main arguments:

Firstly, that women for the most part are emotionally weaker in accepting calamities and perhaps being in sight of her dear one's graves may break into wailing and loud weeping, which would be detrimental to her religious character and harmful for her body as well.

Secondly, cemeteries are oftentimes isolated places which may not be safe for someone being alone, possibly exposing a woman to people of corrupt or loose moral character.

In summary, the rationale behind this prohibition is that women are often not as strong emotionally in the face of calamities, and not visiting graves prevents them from the trial and from being exposed to unnecessary fitnah.

Allaah the Most Knowledgeable knows what is most correct and best

Link :- http://islamqa.com/en/ref/127
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

I am a little preplexed. How does one equate a graveyard with exposure to the den of inequity? What on earth was going on in graveyards that would expose a woman to haraam?

I am not asking in jest. I am truly befuddled.

What is going on with the women are emotional time bombs? That is a cultural constraint. The same argument holds true for men...if they cry it is bad for them as well. It does not stand to reason.
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
Assalaam walaikum,

I am a little preplexed. How does one equate a graveyard with exposure to the den of inequity? What on earth was going on in graveyards that would expose a woman to haraam?

Mixing with the (dead) opposite sex, DUH!! lol
 

JenGiove

Junior Member
Mixing with the (dead) opposite sex, DUH!! lol

I think it probably has more to do with the fact that spiritual processes are going on. In the native world, the burial grounds of the ancesters are VERY sacred. You don't mess around. You show utter respect and if you don't, you're in a world of hurt from the spirit world.

I would like to point out however that in America, the likelyhood of you 1) running into someone is nearly nill, unless they work there. 2) it's a bit taboo to actually speak to someone in a graveyard unless its at a funeral, one of those unwritten but "known" rules 3)most graveyards in America have visiting hours...sunrise to sunset....then gates get locked.

I think that in Western societies, there is a greater stress placed on the shoulders of women so they have to find work outside the home just to make ends meat, they have to deal with strange men in awkward situations. They learn how to harden their hearts a bit....Me, when I went to bury the ashes of my brother, I barely shed a tear in public...but that's me! It may be that in societies where the women are better protected, their emotional defenses are less hardened and so women WOULD be more emotional in places where their loved ones were facing, what they view, as the judgment within the grave.

Those are just my thoughts and as such, probably have no connection to Islamic ruling so please see it only as opinion.
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
Assalaam walaikum,

I am a little preplexed. How does one equate a graveyard with exposure to the den of inequity? What on earth was going on in graveyards that would expose a woman to haraam?

I am not asking in jest. I am truly befuddled.

What is going on with the women are emotional time bombs? That is a cultural constraint. The same argument holds true for men...if they cry it is bad for them as well. It does not stand to reason.

:wasalam:

It will do us a lot of good, if we keep our emotions aside in matter of Fiqh (jurisprudence). Various scholars have reached different conclusions based on their knowledge and their understanding of the matter. We should respect all of them regardless if we follow their opinion on a matter or not.

As you would see in the fatwa, all 3 opinions (permissible, makrooh and prohibited) are mentioned. But the one that prohibits is mentioned as strongest (or preferable ) to be on the safe side. And they have mentioned a valid reasoning it.

Women for the most part are emotionally weaker in accepting calamities and perhaps being in sight of her dear one's graves may break into wailing and loud weeping, which would be detrimental to her religious character and harmful for her body as well.

If you want to contest that men and women are equally prone to wailing and loud weeping, then I would beg to differ.

As I mentioned earlier, there are scholars who hold different views as well (and this is also mentioned in the fatwa) but they do warn against aspects of wailing and screaming that could occur if women frequently visited graves of loved ones. Please read the below

Muhaddith al-Albaanee also said,

“(no.117) Visiting the graves is also recommended for the women as it is for the men and there are a number of reasons for this

Firstly: The statement of the Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam) “Visit the graves.” Is general and therefore it also includes women. The details of this are in the beginning when the Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam) prohibited the people from visiting the graves then without doubt this prohibition included both men and women and he said, “I prohibited you from visiting the graves.” So the meaning of this is in the beginning both men and women were prohibited from visiting the graves. So this is clear and then whilst allowing both men and women to visit graves in the second sentence of the hadeeth he said, “You may visit them now.” This command is further supported from the other rulings in this hadeeth..”

I say this command was for both genders due to the wording, “I prohibited you (before)…” and if it is said, “You may visit them now” is specific for men, then the structure and understanding of the speech is altered.”

Secondly: The reasons for which visiting graves was recommended then the women are also dependent upon them, the wording of the hadeeth are, “As the visiting of graves softens the heart, tears flow from the eyes and causes one to remember the hereafter.”

Thirdly: The Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam) allowed women to visit graves specifically. A’ishah (Radhiallaahu Anha) mentions two ahadeeth regarding this issue.

(no.1) On the authority of Abdullah bin Abee Mulaika

“One day A’ishah (Radhiallaahu) returned from the graveyard so I asked, “Oh mother of the believer’s where are you coming from?” She replied, “From the grave of Abdur-Rahmaan bin Abee Bakr.” So I said, “Did not the Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam) prohibit us from visiting the graves?” She said, “Yes, but later he granted us permission.” She mentions in another narration, “The Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam) then gave us permission to visit the graves.”

(No.2) too lengthy

(no.118) However the women should not visit the graves oftenly, as it is possible they may begin to oppose the sharee’ah rulings like, screaming and wailing, uncovering themselves, making visiting the graves an amusement trip and wasting time in idle speech and all this happens in some countries. Inshallaah this is the meaning of the following hadeeth, “The Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam) cursed the women who visit the graves oftenly.”

Imaam Qurtubee said, “The curse mentioned in this hadeeth is for the women who visit the graves oftenly as is apparent from the indications of the hadeeth. It is possible this ruling is so because the rights of the husband may be compromised, she may uncover herself and she may also scream and wail. Some say when there is no danger of the above actions then there is no harm in giving women general permission because visiting the graves causes one to remember death, which is needed by both men and women.

Imaam Shawkaanee said in Nayl al-Awtaar (4/95), “In order to reconcile the ahadeeth (the one’s prohibiting and allowing), this opinion is more worthy of being relied upon.” (Talkhees Ahkaam al-Janaa’iz (pg.78-81)
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
Sorry, I spoke out of sympathy and lack of knowledge. I do know that reciting fatiha is common amongst the people in the Middle East. I guess we're wrong. But then again, when one recites Quran he/she is doing it for God, not the deceased ones. I'm just trying to learn :]

:salam2:

Surprising. It is a practice that is prevalent among people in the Indian subcontinent. However, it has no basis from the Sunnah of Prophet SallAllahu Alleihi Wa Sallama.

As muslims when we recite the shahada, we profess that we will perform the worship of Allah in accordance to the way taught us by Prophet Muhammad SallAllahu Alleihi Wa Sallam. We should therefore perform actions only that have proof and basis in the Quran and Sunnah.

So stick to the dua that the Prophet SallAllahu Alleihi Wa Sallam recited while visiting graves. (Can there be possibly be a better way than that of the Prophet ? :) )

Assalaamu 'alaykum 'ahlad-diyaari, minal-mu'mineena walmuslimeena, wa 'innaa 'in shaa' Allaahu bikum laahiqoona [wa yarhamullaahul-mustaqdimeena minnaa walmusta'khireena] 'as'alullaaha lanaa wa lakumul- 'aafiyata.

Peace be upon you, people of this abode, from among the believers and those who are Muslims , and we , by the Will of Allah , shall be joining you . [May Allah have mercy on the first of us and the last of us] I ask Allah to grant us and you strength.

Link http://www.islamawareness.net/Dua/Fortress/060.html
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Salaam,

Brother, thank you. No I was not contesting anything. I was befuddled. I do not disrespect the scholars. However, some of their logic lends itself to inconclusive reasoning and generalizations.

Kayleigh,

I almost fell out of my chair...given my luck with men...I can see why the scholars wrote this.
 

The_truth

Well-Known Member
:salam2:

I have to visit someones grave for urgent reasons , but you see it's my grandfathers grave & he is non Muslim. Um i don't know what one does if they visit a non Muslims grave..or if we are even allowed to visit non Muslims grave ...hmm maybe no one can help me on this one?What should i do?

Asalaamu Alaikum, Regarding the permissability of women visiting the graveyard:

Sheikh Maulana Muhammad ibn Moulana Haroon Abbassommar says the following regarding women visiting the graveyards:

Imam Bukhari has recorded a Hadith of Sayyidatuna Umm Atiyya (Radhiallaahu Anha) that she said, 'We were prohibited from following the Janaaza, i.e. until the graveyard.' (Bukhari Hadith No.1278; See Fathul Baari vol.3 pg.187)

Imam Tirmidhi (RA) has recorded a Hadith of Sayyiduna Abu Hurayra (Radhiallaahu Anhu) that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) has mentioned, 'May Allah Ta'ala curse women who visits the graves.' Imaam Tirmidhi has graded this Hadith as Sahih - authentic (Sunan Tirmidhi vol.1 pg.203)

A similar narration is recorded by Imaam Abu Dawud on the authority of Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Abbaas (Radhiallaahu Anhu).

However, many of the scholars are of the opinion that the above law has been obliterated by the following narration recorded by Imaam Muslim in his Sahih
on the authority of Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Mas'ood (Radhiallaahu Anhu) that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) mentioned, 'I had prevented you from visiting the grave, (as of now) you all should visit it for it reminds one of the Aakhirat.' (Sahih Muslim)

Based on this, the previous law mentioned above was abrogated. Hence, the permissibility of visiting the graveyard includes males and females. However, the reason for prohibiting females from visiting graves is due to our corrupted environment wherein women who do not adhere to the laws of Hijaab and hence strange men are attracted towards them. Therefore, it is not permissible for young females to visit the graveyard.

However, if the laws of the Shariah (Hijaab, intermingling, crying, etc.) are not violated then the prohibition may be set aside. Since generally the women visiting the graves are not free from the above aspects, they should refrain from doing so.

If a female visits the grave to remember death and soften without crying . there is nothing wrong if they are old. It is Makrooh (not permissible) if they are young (Shaami vol. 1 p. 665 - Maajidiyya) See Umdatul Qaari vol.8 pg.69.

It was narrated that ‘Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) said to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him): “O Messenger of Allah, what should I say to them (i.e., to the occupants of the graves)?” He said, “Say: As-salaamu ‘ala ahl il-diyaar min al-mu’mineen wa’l-Muslimeen, wa yarham Allah al-mustaqdimeena minna wa’l-musta’khireen, wa innaa insya Allah bikum la laahiqoon

(Peace be upon the inhabitants of the graves, believers and Muslims. May Allah have mercy upon those who have gone ahead of us and those who come later on, and verily we will, insya Allah, join you).” (Narrated by Muslim, 974)

It was narrated from Buraydah ibn al-Husayb (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) used to teach them, when they went out to the graveyard, to say:

“Assalaamualaikum ahl al-diyaar min al-mu’mineen wa’l-Muslimeen, wa insya Allah lalaahiqoon. As’al Allah lana wa lakum al-‘aafiyah (Peace be upon you, O inhabitants of the graves, believers and Muslims. Verily we will, insya Allah, join you. I ask Allah for well-being for us and for you).”

Regarding visiting the grave of non Muslims:


A report of Abu Hurayrah, who said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) visited the grave of his mother, and he wept and those who were with him wept. Then he said, ‘I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for her, and He did not grant me permission to do that, and I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission. So visit the graves, for they are a reminder of death.’

(Narrated by Muslim, 3/65; Abu Dawood, 2/72; al-Nasaa’i, 1/286; also by Ibn Maajah, al- Haakim, al-Bayhaqi and Ahmad)


Buraydah (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated: “We were with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) on a journey (according to one report, on the campaign of the conquest [of Makkah]), and he camped with us, and we were nearly 1000 on mounts. He prayed 2 rakaats then he turned to us weeping. ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allah be pleased with him) got up and went to him, and said, ‘May my father and mother be sacrificed for you, O Messenger of Allah, what is the matter?’ He said, ‘I asked my Lord to let me pray for forgiveness for my mother, and He did not give me permission, and my eyes filled with tears out of compassion for her in the Fire. I asked my Lord for permission to visit her grave, and He granted me permission. I used to forbid you to visit the graves, but (now) visit them, for visiting them will increase you in good.’’

(Narrated by Ahmad, 5/355-359; Ibn Abi Shaybah, 4/139; also narrated by Ibn Hibbaan and al-Haakim. The other addition was narrated by al-Haakim who said, it is saheeh according to the conditions of the two Shaykhs [al-Bukhaari and Muslim], and al- Dhahabi agreed with him, and it is as they said. A briefer version was narrated by al- Tirmidhi, who classed it as saheeh)


Another evidence for that is the hadeeth of Sa’d ibn Abi Waqqaas who said: “A Bedouin came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said, ‘My father used to uphold the ties of kinship, and so on and so forth - where is he now?’ He said, ‘In Hell.’ The Bedouin got upset and said, ‘O Messenger of Allah, where is your father?’ He said, ‘Whenever you pass by the grave of a kafir, give him the tidings of Hell.’ The Bedouin later became a Muslim, and he said, ‘The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) gave me a difficult commission. Whenever I pass by the grave of a kafir, I give him the tidings of Hell.’’

(Narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Mu’jam al-Kabeer, 1/191; Ibn al-Sunni in ‘Aml al-Yawm wa’l-Laylah, 588; al-Diyaa’ al-Maqdisi in al-Ahaadeeth al-Mukhtaarah, with a saheeh isnaad. Al-Haythami (1/117-118) said: it was narrated by al-Bazzaar and by al-Tabaraani in al-Kabeer, and the men of its isnaad are sound)


And Abu Hurayrah narrated in a marfu’ hadeeth [i.e., it is attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)]: “When you pass by the graves of the people of the jahilyyah, of our people and your people, give them the news that they are among the people of Hell.”

(Narrated by Ibn AlSunni in al-Yawm wa’l-Laylah with an isnaad which includes Yahyaa ibn Yamaan, who had a bad memory, from Muhammad ibn ‘Umar. I do not know it from Abu Salamah from him, but apparently he is Ibn ‘Amr, who is hasan in narrating hadeeth. And Allaah knows best.)
Indeed, visiting the graves of non-Muslims is permitted for reflection. It is reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) asked Allah if he could seek His forgiveness for his mother. He was not allowed to do so, but he was permitted to visit her grave.

Muslims should respect the graves of non-Muslims just as they do of their own brothers and sisters. The Islamic point of view does not differentiate between the grave of a Muslim or a non- Muslim. Graves should be treated in the light of the Quranic verse:

"Surely we have honored the children of Adam…" (Al-'Israa': 70)

The application of this verse is so general to include Muslims and non-Muslims. In this context, we recall the incident that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) stayed behind, after the Battle of Badr, to supervise the burial of all the unbelievers who had been killed in battle. If a Muslim visits the grave of a kaafir, he does not greet him with salaams or make du’aa’ for him; rather he should give him the tidings of Hell>> ’’ubashirulnar’’

In a nutshell, it is permissible to visit the graves of those who did not die in Islam in order only to learn a lesson from that.

And Allah knows best in all matters
 

Idris16

Junior Member
salam alaykum warahmatullah wabarakatuh

So where's the answer?? Can we visit the graves of the Kuffar since we do not have Muslim graveyards? I want to soften my heart!!

EDIT: Alhamdulillah, I found the answer :)

If a Muslim visits the grave of a kaafir, he does not greet him with salaams or make du’aa’ for him; rather he should give him the tidings of Hell.

The evidence for that is the hadeeth of Sa’d ibn Abi Waqqaas who said: “A Bedouin came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, ‘My father used to uphold the ties of kinship, and so on and so forth - where is he now?’ He said, ‘In Hell.’ The Bedouin got upset and said, ‘O Messenger of Allaah, where is your father?’ He said, ‘Whenever you pass by the grave of a kaafir, give him the tidings of Hell.’ The Bedouin later became a Muslim, and he said, ‘The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave me a difficult commission. Whenever I pass by the grave of a kaafir, I give him the tidings of Hell.”’”

(Narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Mu’jam al-Kabeer, 1/191; Ibn al-Sunni in ‘Aml al-Yawm wa’l-Laylah, 588; al-Diyaa’ al-Maqdisi in al-Ahaadeeth al-Mukhtaarah, with a saheeh isnaad. Al-Haythami (1/117-118) said: it was narrated by al-Bazzaar and by al-Tabaraani in al-Kabeer, and the men of its isnaad are sound).

http://islamqa.com/en/ref/11890/visiting graves
 

muhammad sabri

Junior Member
:salam2:
Dear i will quote an answer that i found really sweet ina similiar topi, the answer is by brother Munawar, it take a little time so go trough it please :) Look Below
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We have several cut and paste Muslims who just cut and paste opinions (fatwa) of scholars but don't have understanding of the Islamic values. And sadly when they quote one ayah they forget another ayah.

Now here is my opinion (fatwa):

Sister don't worry about it. YES... You can go to the funeral of non-Muslims to pay your respect, but be careful to not participate in their religious rituals or prayers.

Allah says in the Quran (60:8) "Allah does not forbid that you be kind and just to those who did not fight against you on account of religion, nor drove you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are equitable."

What this verse means is that you have every right to adopt a stem attitude towards those who persecuted you for embracing Islam and compelled you to leave your homes and pursued you even after that. But as for as those who were not partners in persecuting you, you should treat them well and should fulfill the right they have on you because of blood and other relationships.

No one of our cut and paste Muslims have answered this question from sister AAminAA ???
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Can someone tell me when uncle of Muhammad s.a.w.s., died and we all know that he died under state of non believer, what the Prophet a.s., did. How he reacted ?
Well sister we all know that our Prophet participated in Abu Talib's funeral and burial.

One person as written this:
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And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not initiate the greeting of salaam with the Jews and Christians, and when you meet them in the street, force them towards the narrowest part of it.” Narrated by Imam Muslim in his Saheeh, 2167 from the hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah.

Shaykh Sulaymaan ib nNaasir al-‘Alwaan
In answer I would remind that we all know how some wicked Jews used to greet Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). Aisha narrated: "The Jews used to greet the Prophet by saying, ‘As-Samu ‘Alaika (death be upon you), so I understood what they said, and I said to them, “As-Samu alaikum wal-la’na (Death and Allah’s curse be upon you)”. The Prophet said, “Be gentle and calm, O ‘Aisha, as Allah likes gentleness in all affairs” I said, “O Allah’s Prophet! Did you hear what they said?” He said, “Didn’t you hear me answering them back by saying, Wa‘Alaikum (the same be upon you)."

This means that other Jews who used to say the correct greeting of "Assalam-o-alikum" our Prophet used to respond to them by saying "Wa'alikum As'Salam".

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It is not permissible for the Muslim to attend the funeral of a kaafir or to enter their churches, even if that is a sign of respect etc, because attending the funeral is a way of showing love and respect, and it is not permissible to show that towards a kaafir, according to the correct view.
The second Khalifa Umar (RA) when he entered in Jeroshalum as a victor, he went into the main Church to visit it. Didn't he? And when the prayer time came and the Christians offered him to pray inside the Church, does anyone know what he said?
Umar (RA) said: "If I pray here in this church then the future generations of Muslims might say that Umar prayed here and then they might convert this Church into a Mosque."

See... How much respect he gave to them. And here we are arguing whether we should go to a funeral or not. Can any one here claim to be a better Muslim than Umar (RA) ???

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i guess this should give you an insight about when a muslim should stay away from disbilievers matters and when he is allowed to ''be gentle'' at them :)

---AND ALLAH(SWT) KNOWS BEST---

May Allah(swt) increase us all in knowledge and love for Him(swt) for verily there is no God but Him(swt) al-Wadud(The Loving One) al-Wahhab(The Large in giving)

:wasalam: :) -Love
 

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الحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله وعلى آله وصحبه، أما بعـد:


فقد اختلف أهل العلم في زيارة القبور للنساء، فذهب الجمهور إلى الكراهة واحتجوا بأدلة منها حديث أبي هريرة عند أحمد، قال قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: لعن الله زوارات القبور. صححه الألباني. ولأن النساء فيهن رقة قلب وكثرة جزع وقلة احتمال للمصائب، وهذا مظنه لبكائهن ورفع أصواتهن. وذهب الحنفية في الأصح إلى أنه يندب للنساء زيارة القبور كما يندب للرجال، لقول النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم: كنت نهيتكم عن زيارة القبور فزوروها فإنها تذكر بالآخرة. رواه مسلم عن بريدة، قال الخير الرملي: إن كان ذلك لتجدد الحزن والبكاء وما جرت به عادتهن فلا تجوز، وعليه حمل حديث: لعن الله زوارت القبور. وإن كان للاعتبار والترحم من غير بكاء فلا بأس. اهـ. راجع الموسوعة الفقهية. وذهب الإمام أحمد في رواية عنه حكاها ابن قدامة إلى عدم الكراهة لعموم حديث ثوبان السابق، وهو وجه عند الشافعية حكاه الروياني في البحر وصححه. إذا أمن الافتتان كما في المجموع للنووي، والقول بعدم الكراهة هو الراجح إن شاء الله لحديث ثوبان ( فزوروها ) فإنه خطاب يعم الرجال والنساء لتساويهم في علة الزيارة وهو تذكر الآخرة. ولما أخرجه الأثرم والحاكم عن عبد الله بن أبي ملكية أن عائشة أقبلت ذات يوم من المقابر فقلت لها يا أم المؤمنين من أين أقبلت؟ قالت: من قبر أخي عبد الرحمن بن أبي بكر، فقلت لها: أليس كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم نهى عن زيارة القبور. قالت: نعم. ثم أمر بزيارتها. صححه العراقي والألباني في الإرواء. ولحديث عائشة عن مسلم أنها قالت يا رسول الله: كيف أقول إذا زرت المقابر، قال:قولي السلام على أهل الديار من المؤمنين والمسلمين ويرحم الله المستقدمين منا والمستأخرين. وأما حديث لعن الله زوارات القبور. فتوجيهه كما قال القرطبي: اللعن المذكور في الحديث إنما هو للمكثرات من الزيارة لما تقتضيه الصيغة من المبالغة. اهـ.أما زيارة القبور للفتيات فلا يختلف حكمهن عن العجائز لعموم أدلة الجواز ولأن عائشة كانت تزور البقيع وقد مات النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وهي في شرخ الشباب. وفرق الرملي وابن عابدين من الحنفية بين الشواب والعجائز وكذلك صاحب المستظهري من الشافعية أباح الزيارة للعجوز التي لا تشتهى وكرهها للشواب قال النووي: وهو جمع حسن. أما الحائض والجنب فلا يختلف حكمهما عن غيرهما في شأن زيارة القبور لعدم ورود دليل
 
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