vegangoth
Banned
why aren't you a muslim?
Why aren't you a Satanist? lol
why aren't you a muslim?
Hi Vegangoth.
You have said that this thread was posted out of desire of many members here on the site? Which are those members,becasue untill now I did not see any brother or sister who is interested in learning your evil sect.:astag:
Alhmadulillah we Msulims are thought to be kind,but regarding some things like this or simlar we need to show the charecter.There can be some brothers and sisters with maybe week faith,and these kind of threads may affect on their own thinking.
This site is about learing Islaam,it is for Muslims and for non Muslims who wish to learn about Islaam and not for threads like yours where you are trying to teach us about your evil and to say how Islaam is not the right religion and how we do not have enough prove for that.You are trying to say that when someone is doing Shirk (worshiping to someone else but Allah Almighty) and denaing the only right and accepted religion Islaam,we Muslims should agree with that and with your words we can not say that it is very wrong and evil your sect. Alahdmulillah that we need to say that it is wrong.
Like you have mentioned a knowlodge,Alahdmulillah our duty is to seek knowlodge.But we do not need false knowlodge from your evil teachings.:astag:.We have truth knowlodge from Holy Quran and Sunnah of our Last Messanger s.a.w.s.
I hope Inshallah,Allah subahn we teal will guide you and simular like you who have lost thier way.
As you are already became the member on the site,you should use that for your own benefit. Inshallah you should try to read threads and learn more about Islaam,which is the only truth and right religion.:tti_sister:
Hi, as you came to an Islamic website, infact, perhaps the most strict Islamic forum on the entire internet, you will have to expect people to comment and to help you to understand that Islaam is the truth and that every other idea is falsehood.
To be tolerant, is one thing, to accept that everyone is right in their own ideas, is not. So, yes we are tolerant, Islaam commands Muslims to be not just tolerant, but, cooperative and understanding with people of other faiths. We cooperate where Islaam allows us to, and we do not cooperate (i.e. to take part in any of your religious rituals/ prayers etc) where Islaam forbids us. This is the Command of Allaah, He is creator of all of us, the creator even of what you worship.
The idea that a person has his own religion proved to them is not logical rational for it to be "the truth". Someone who worships a can of pepsi can say the same thing, that when they heard the fizz , it whispered something that changed their spiritual life.
But, we know that the pepsi can was created, and that it is unable to help anyone, rather even it can be drunk whole.
Muslims are obliged to help people not just learn and understand Islaam, but aid them into becoming Muslims. We do not hide this fact at all. Because, we are helping people away from eternal hellfire, due to the devil's evil in fooling people away from the truth.
Iblis, the devil, is one of the Jinn. He was created by Allaah, just as all other creation was. Iblis did not create nor is he capable of creating anyone.
Just because you base your ideas on some pagan book written many thousands of years ago, does not make it a correct belief.
Allaah the most High said:
I have not created Men and Jinn except that they may worship Me [Dhaariyaat 51:56]
No doubt! Verily, to Allah belongs whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth. And those who worship and invoke others besides Allah, in fact they follow not the (Allah's so-called) partners, they follow only a conjecture and they only invent lies. Surah: Yunus (10) Aayat: 66
And surely, We have created many of the jinns and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, they have eyes wherewith they see not, and they have ears wherewith they hear not (the truth). They are like cattle, nay even more astray; those! They are the heedless ones. Surah: Al-Aa'raaf (7) Aayat: 179
and
Yet, they join the jinns as partners in worship with Allah, though He has created them (the jinns), and they attribute falsely without knowledge sons and daughters to Him. Be He Glorified and Exalted above (all) that they attribute to Him. Surah: Al-An'aam (6) Aayat: 100
and Allaah the Most High said:
Verily, those who believe (in Allah and in His Messenger Muhammad SAW), and those who are Jews, and the Sabians, and the Christians, and the Magians, and those who worship others besides Allah, truly, Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection. Verily! Allah is Witness over all things.[] Surah: Al-Hajj (22) Aayat: 17
Those who remember Allah (always, and in prayers) standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and think deeply about the creation of the heavens and the earth, (saying): "Our Lord! You have not created (all) this without purpose, glory to You! (Exalted be You above all that they associate with You as partners). Give us salvation from the torment of the Fire. Surah: Al-'Imran (3) Aayat: 191
Allah is He Who created you, then provided food for you, then will cause you to die, then (again) He will give you life (on the Day of Resurrection). Is there any of your (so�called) partners (of Allah) that do anything of that ? Glory be to Him! And Exalted be He above all that (evil) they associate (with Him). Surah: Al-Ruum (30) Aayat: 40
Islam is not a new Religion, this message, of worshipping Allaah alone, without associating any partners to Him, has been spread and taught since the very first of Prophets, Adam, may Allaah's peace be upon him.
Both the humans and the Jinn can be Muslim. We believe in Jinn, and Iblis is from them. However, there are both good and evil jinn, just as there are good and evil humans.
The evil jinn are instructed to fool humans into doing Shirk, associating partners with Allah, or total disbelief in Allaah. They do that in various ways, including by allowing people to do fortune telling, ( they travel to the lowest boundaries of heavens and over hear what the Angels say, and then they eventually return back to earth, with a very unreliable "fortune". They glean just minute amount of truth, whilst the rest be falsehood. So, people go to these fortune tellers who use the Jinn.. and they do Shirk..
Then there are those who do Magic, and this too, is from the Jinn, as the Jinn are different to humans, they are able to move at fast speeds and are invisible, therefore, those who really do practise Magic, ( and not just mere trickery) use Jinn.. they make a pact with the devil infact. -- and we have seen, that you have admitted that many of these Satan worshippers do magic.
This is all Shirk, it is what the devil wants, and it is what fools people away from the truth, and light of Islaam.
There is much more to say, unfortunately I am limited by my time, I hope to be able to write more about this subject,inshaAllaah.
You gave me and my friends a right laugh ..I had to explain exactly why I was laughing at my computer screen, when I read out your answer none of us could contain ourselves.The club I like that lol and yes I guess it is a bit like that hehe!
It's hard to describe a Satanic ritual as averyone will probebly do them slightly diffrent. Mine are never to long, some people like to have them go on for a couple of hours. Bacilly I make "make shift" altar on the floor of my room, I cover the space with a purple sheet, I set up candles, burning bowls ( for pray requests) light candles, incense. I start the ritual by invitng the elemets to be with me, then I ask Satan to be present, do the body of the ritual ( whatever reason I was doing it in the first place) close th ritual by thanking the elemens and Satan,put my stuff away and go and have a nice cup or tea.
I do look like that girl from the exorcist but only when "American Idol" is on the TV
<<And a question for the Islamic followers... Why does God want you to fear him? Shouldn't we be scared of evil, rather than of something supreme? If you were to be the best person in the world... Would you want people to fear you or would you want them to respect and understand you? Talk to you without being affraid? You know, just like the Prophet. He is the best of men and that is something I strongly agree with. But he never wanted people to fear him. He allowed people to talk and understood, but he never stopped trying to spread Islam. >>
You are most welcome : Allah swt told people to worship him : To worship means to love the most love with most humility ....Fear of Allah swt is meant to make people reject all that is evil .....If you fear anyone you run away but if man fear Allah he will run to him ......it is postive fear cobined with big hope and trust.
You know what. This is sort of interesting. So I'll ask a question. Nearly every single religion and the vast majority of people explain to you that Satan is Evil and why he is Evil... So how can he be good? What do you think is good about him? What does he do for you to make you believe that he is good?
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You gave me and my friends a right laugh ..I had to explain exactly why I was laughing at my computer screen, when I read out your answer none of us could contain ourselves.
No sacrifices ..not even a goats heads? It sounds like you haven't really grown out of those make believe kids games ..aww
satanists dont have scientific evidence that they are on the true path.
islam has scientific and mathematical evidence .
Even Atheist say that Satan is evil, the people that don't even belive in the likely existance of any deity have that belief. The Abrahamic faiths have done an amazing job of dispariging Satan. If there was no evil deity then what use would their religon be?
Here is the link to the page on my website that explains my belief of who Satan is to me http://inpraiseofsatan.webs.com/mysatan.htm please don't go there if you don't want to read it's contents.
The religion of Islam descends from Abraham. the phrophets; Muhammed, Jesus and Moses all have a direct blood line to the son's of Abraham. Abraham is a direct decendent of Adam. He is the father of the Arabs. It was Abraham who built the Kabbah in Mecca. So you own more to Ibrahim than you really do to Adam.
Thank for the words from the Koran. I'll enjoy reading them
I can't prove to you that my religion is true just as you can't prove to me that your is. Sure you can sight the Koran as being the undisputed word of god but you have only the Koran' word for that. Your own truth and proof is probably much more individual and personal. Yes the Koran will have played the majority part in it but I bet Allah had other ways to convince you too?
Bottom line is my religion has been proven to me to be true. Just as your has to you. That should be enough for the both of us.
Glad I could be of assitance lol
I'm a vegan so goats heads are out but I do like to sacrafice a nice tasty bit of smoked tofu.
err no its not meant to be for you to eat
Tofu isnt much of a sacrifice, I doubt its very impressive for the one you worship.
Have you ever slit your wrists in honour of satan, given your own blood sacrifice? Or is that too much for you to stomach?
My freind reckons you guys should be hauled together and thrown in the ocean or something, talk about ''evil Islaamic Terorrists'' - satanists are the epitome of evil since they worship its very roots.
Having said that I think you're just a kid with an over active imagination a satanist wannabe perhaps.
I am meary educating those who wanted to know. I have ( if you look) asked questions on the other boards about Islam and will continue to do so, when I think of them. Information should go both ways. This is a world that is tearing it's self apart because people are not willing to accept,tolerate and learn about other beliefs. I would appraciate it if you wouldn't disparige my religon in the way that you did with the word's "Ugly pages". I appreciate this is an Islam website and I'm a visitor here but I'm sure you are sick to death of people being nasty about Islam, so please don't continue the trend. Tolerance is a wonderful thing.