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revert2007

Love Fishing
what am i suppose to do if i can't talk to the girls? or any other men can't talk to the sisters? what if they are not married?

i think its rather wrong that men can't talk to the muslim sisters but people can talk to a non-muslim.

i keep getting the impression that if i saw someone in the street who is muslim and i was walking down in the other direction and i looked at you and smiled and said "hi" or something and i didnt know much about islam and you didnt talk to me, i would think " oh she is being anti social " or " she is probably in a bad mood and not having a good day ", or if i just wanted to socialise and get to know people which i love doing.

in a country like England thats the impression you would be giving me. im not saying it to be horrible, you are always welcome to chat to me online or offline

:)

as someone have said,islam do not fully forbidden talking to opposite gender.if you or the girl is with the mahram or there is a third human being between the two of you,then it is fine.i guess you need to read on the topic how to approach a sister for marriage.an unmarried will get bother with this matter for the sake of marriage.there are some threads on it and please read.

if all men and women can't talk,then how come all the solehah and soleh men got married?there are correct channels you must follow.

i know it is too soon and too new for you and we are not asking you to follow all the islamic rules all of a sudden.

first of all think about saying the shahadah and that is what matters the most.the other things we can discuss later on the thread if you do have any further questions.May Allah guide you to the right path and keep syaitan away from you.ameen
 

DanyalSAC

Junior Member
it only works for full members those with orange colour.New members can't view profile

And it also seems to be an awful lot of work to go through considering how important this info is. I suggest somehow to add the male or female symbol on the left by the avatar. Or have the names of brothers be one color while sisters be another.
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
And it also seems to be an awful lot of work to go through considering how important this info is. I suggest somehow to add the male or female symbol on the left by the avatar. Or have the names of brothers be one color while sisters be another.

As-salaamu `alaykum.

It is only a 3-step, quick procedure which can be performed from any of the given user's posts.

Was-salaam
 

DanyalSAC

Junior Member
Perform 2 rakaah of salah taubah(I read yesterday whether it si small sin or big sin better do this salaha nd u can do anytime including the time of forbidden to pray)

Ok newbie question here (and off topic) but when is it "forbidden" to pray?
 

BrotherKhalid

Junior Member
what am i suppose to do if i can't talk to the girls? or any other men can't talk to the sisters? what if they are not married?

i think its rather wrong that men can't talk to the muslim sisters but people can talk to a non-muslim.

i keep getting the impression that if i saw someone in the street who is muslim and i was walking down in the other direction and i looked at you and smiled and said "hi" or something and i didnt know much about islam and you didnt talk to me, i would think " oh she is being anti social " or " she is probably in a bad mood and not having a good day ", or if i just wanted to socialise and get to know people which i love doing.

in a country like England thats the impression you would be giving me. im not saying it to be horrible, you are always welcome to chat to me online or offline

:)

I think the thing is, firstly, that because this is a forum dedicated to the study and the learning of Islam, no one should be looking for potential wives or husbands here, and because there are plenty of brothers to help the men, and plenty of sisters to help the women, there is really no reason for us to be speaking privately (via PM) to members of the opposite sex.

When it comes to our daily lives, if for example you are a brother who is seeking a wife, the thing to do is to speak with brothers in the Masjid about it, the Imam, any brother you know. Often times, a brother has a sister who is seeking marriage, or the Imam may know of a sister who is seeking marriage, and at that point everyone could make arrangements to meet and get to know each other. This is always done in public settings and with a third person who is the father or (biological) brother to the sister you're interested in. The purpose of this is to protect both the brother and the sister who are interested in marriage, and assures that when they do marry, it will be done properly, and there are no hurt feelings, no confusion, no fights, etc.

In the West we see people "dating" and it's socially unacceptable to even bring up the idea of marriage when you are "getting to know" someone, even if getting to know that person leads to fornication. Islam avoids this altogether. When you meet a sister for the purpose of getting to know her, it is obvious and accepted that you are doing this to find if she will be a suitable wife and vice versa, and her mahram is of course aware of this as well.

Once you are married, these limitations are gone and you and your wife can be alone as much as the two of you wish. Of course, since you are now married, you really have no reason at that point to "want to get to know" other sisters, unless your wife and you have decided to seek a second wife (and there are rules regarding that as well.....best saved for a different thread), and she has no reason to seek the company of other men since she has her husband, her biological brothers if she has them, her father, her son, and the entire Ummah of sisters to befriend.

I hope this has answered some of your questions insha Allah. I ask any brothers or sisters to correct me if I have given any incorrect information so that our friend Wigan_Guy may know the Truth. :)

Wa salam.
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
Ok newbie question here (and off topic) but when is it "forbidden" to pray?

it is forbidden to pray when the sun is so high(after duha prayer no any other prayers till zohr)

after asr prayer till maghrib no any other prayer(after u hv performed the asr prayer,u cannot perform any other prayer even the prayer of entering the mosque) except repenting/taubah prayer because we don't know when we will die..

i need more time to quote the proof here.once i found inshaAllah will share.
 

Libinette

Umm Zubayr
u cannot perform any other prayer even the prayer of entering the mosque) except repenting/taubah prayer because we don't know when we will die..

i need more time to quote the proof here.once i found inshaAllah will share.

It would be more juidicious my dear sister, to mention All the opinions on the subject and not one. Inshallaah, when there are different views on an issue let's bring all of the opinions from the respected shuyukh [which I remind are based mostly on authentic narrations/verses of the Qur'aan]. :SMILY139:
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
It would be more juidicious my dear sister, to mention All the opinions on the subject and not one. Inshallaah, when there are different views on an issue let's bring all of the opinions from the respected shuyukh [which I remind are based mostly on authentic narrations/verses of the Qur'aan]. :SMILY139:


Abu Saeed AlKhudree reported Allah's Messenger (pbuh) as saying, No Salat is to be said after the Fajr prayer until the sun rises, or after the Asr Prayer until the sun sets. (Bukhair and Muslim)


Only Nafl prayer is forbidden at these times but a missed Fard prayer can be offered. Most of the Ulama of the Muslim Ummah allowed the offering of missed Fard prayer after Fajr and Asr because of the following Hadith:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said, Who has forgotten the prayer he should pray it whenever he remembers it. (Bukhari and Muslim)

(ii) A Nafl prayer cannot be offered once the Iqamat for Fard prayer has been said. Abu Hurairah narrated that Allah's Messenger (pbuh) said, When the Iqamat has been said, then, there is no Salat valid (Nafl or Sunnat ) except the Fard prayer for which the Iqamat was said. (Ahmad and Muslim)
It is seen in practice that many people continue with the Sunnat prayer even though the Iqamat has been said for the Fard prayer especially in the Fajr prayer. The feel that the 2 Raakat Sunnat of Fajr can only be offered before the Fard. This practice is against congregation philosophy, discipline of Jamaat, and a clear violation of Hadith. They should offer 2 Rakaat Sunnat of Fajr immediately after the Fard or after sunrise.


 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
Staff member
Ok newbie question here (and off topic) but when is it "forbidden" to pray?

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/48998/اوقات النهي

The link above akhi tells you about *'awqaat an-nahiy*...inshallah it will be of help

Also (and this goes to everyone)...let's not turn sister revert2007's thread into an argument of *is it haram* or *is it not*...she spoke of the importance of not speaking to the opposite gender..and jazaha Allah khair for that...even if *you* carry the opinion that there's no harm in it and you believe that you have armored yourself against the deceives of Iblis (somehow!)...the site rules *clearly state* that you do not interact with the opposite gender beyond necessity (and if I may add *absolute necessity*..I would!)..so please respect the rules *at least*..

What you disregard due to Islamic brethren or view as extreme out of this deen is *your problem* at the end of the day...but respect TTI's rules and sister revert2007's effort..we can only remind you of what displeases Allah and try to protect you from harm on TTI the best we can (because you *are* our responsibility while you're a member here)..because on here we're not having an interaction on the level of a brother passes by and says *salam* to a sister..we're having interactions beyond that..and whether you see it or not..*yes!*..it *may* open the door to *fitnah*..

Therefore allow these reminders to soak your hearts so *you* may benefit yourself *and* others before Allah (swt) and your brothers and sisters in deen..and baraka Allaho feekom 'amae'een!

:wasalam:
 

Muslimah16

ServantOfAllah*
:salam2:

Being a Muslim girl doesnt mean you cant be polite. Like sometimes you see some people in Niqaab who are quite rude. Once i remember i was in town shopping and a fellow Christian brother left the door open for one of my mates who was walking right behind him. She thought that because her voice is pardah she cant say a "Thank you" at least! Akhlaaq is too, very important in our beautiful Deen. The guy walked off muttering something under his breath LOL. Anyways, so basically you don't have to be a right snob! :p Lots of people say that women in Niqaab are stuck up :( It's just because they're trying to be super strict. We can be polite and that, but just don't go into a 10 minute convo talking about WAllahu a'alam :)

Sorry to go a little off topic. :$

Wassalaamu'alaykum
 

IbnAhmad

Junior Member
Assalamu Alykum :):):)

Jazakallahu Khair for the very beneficial thread. May Allah SWT forgive and guide us all. Ameen!

Wassalam. :D:D
 

Muslimah16

ServantOfAllah*
lol must of thought muslim sisters arnt allowed to speak :)

Hello brother,

Yes, that must have been it. Like, i have a friend who is now a Muslimah, she was actually quite surprised i could speak English! She told me this after we got to know each other quite well I was like "Duh! Course i can, i live in England man!" :p

This was actually the topic we were covering in Madrasa last week- about keeping your voice quiet in front of men yet considering good manners in Islaam too.. SubhanAllah.

Wassalaam!
 

Muslimah16

ServantOfAllah*
MashaAllah, thats nice.

Yes brother, most people DO have that theory. Personally, i dont like to speak to/ask for directions when im lost. Because i cover fully, people look at me differently too. Im scared that i'll get racist comments/physically abused etc. So i'd rather be left stranded in the middle of nowhere than ask around for directions :p Trust me we may not here of that kind of stuff here where i live, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I dont know any Arab men *I dont know ANY kind of men lol* but urm seriously, i have never seen any Arabs here. Well thats cool.

Wassalaam
 

Muslimah16

ServantOfAllah*
well i often get stuff said to me because im not one of those trouble makers, im a quiet/shy person that loves rock music :D lol

i know, dont be put off talking to me because of that. if any muslim sister was lost or any muslim brother id go over and help them out :)

MashaAllah, thats really good to hear dear brother.

May Allah bless you.

Wassalaam
 

rightpath_357

Junior Member
sis- ur SO right. remember- the internet isn't the safest or most trustworthy thing we should be on. Many cases of stalking, suicide, homicide, abuse have been reported on the Internet. But this is a ISLAMIC website! We should be careful- because we don't want THIS site to turn dangerous- do we?? btw- sis- can i still tease U???? :lol:!!!!! :D
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
Abu Saeed AlKhudree reported Allah's Messenger (pbuh) as saying, No Salat is to be said after the Fajr prayer until the sun rises, or after the Asr Prayer until the sun sets. (Bukhair and Muslim)


Only Nafl prayer is forbidden at these times but a missed Fard prayer can be offered. Most of the Ulama of the Muslim Ummah allowed the offering of missed Fard prayer after Fajr and Asr because of the following Hadith:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said, Who has forgotten the prayer he should pray it whenever he remembers it. (Bukhari and Muslim)

(ii) A Nafl prayer cannot be offered once the Iqamat for Fard prayer has been said. Abu Hurairah narrated that Allah's Messenger (pbuh) said, When the Iqamat has been said, then, there is no Salat valid (Nafl or Sunnat ) except the Fard prayer for which the Iqamat was said. (Ahmad and Muslim)
It is seen in practice that many people continue with the Sunnat prayer even though the Iqamat has been said for the Fard prayer especially in the Fajr prayer. The feel that the 2 Raakat Sunnat of Fajr can only be offered before the Fard. This practice is against congregation philosophy, discipline of Jamaat, and a clear violation of Hadith. They should offer 2 Rakaat Sunnat of Fajr immediately after the Fard or after sunrise.



aaah! serious?? oh no, all those nafl prayers gone :( i prayed nafl prayers before and after each exams. i hope that Allah will accept them and hopefully i will get exceptional grades. why is it forbidden, i thought we could pray it any time. and sunnat for fajr is always before the fajr prayers after the azan.
 

galadari

Junior Member
Assalamualikum to everyone.
It is very sad to say that there are members mixing without any fear of Allah on msn and Pm each other.It might sound very drastic here but I am saying with proofs .

It is enough of sisters and brothers pming each other and asking how you and talking things which is not related to islam.If you want the proof,check their visitor messages.How they write to each other with smilies and so on.

Many of them add each other on the msn as well.And please stop doing that if it is opposite gender...I personally have taken the drastic steps not to pm any brothers even if it is bout islam or dawah purpose.And to whoever I didn't reply the pm please forgive me.

And sisters especially the young ones,stop pm new comers and adding him on msn.We need great iman to deal with opposite sex and we can just fail and get into syaitan's trap..

There are many brothers here who can take care of the new brothers and the sisters just stick to sisters only.

Another thing I would like to point out,do not use too much smilies when there are opposite sex on the thread and start teasing each other.I did myself and I repent for Allah sake.Just state your opinion without any smilies.We are not here to have fun and get to know each other.We are here only for one motive-LEARN ISLAM AND SPREAD ALLAH'S WORD

I do not wnat anyone come to me and question about other people whay they can add the opposite sex.We cannot change the whole world,but we can change ourselves.And we can never know ones iman.Perhaps that person is the one with great iman and he knows what he is doing.There might be various reason why the person add the opposite sex and only Allah knows..As a member,it is enough for us to come here to learn about islam.TTi is not facebook or Myspace of friendster that you can add opposite sex and so on and tease each other.

Honestly some of you have seen the consequences of doing so.Repent now and no more pm opposite sex even if it is about islam.If you have doubts,as someone from the same sex or post a thread.

And reverts ssters,becareful whom pm you.If it is opposite sex,just ignore or report to the moderator quickly.

I won't be able to get all the news to report but Allah is my witness and He will take care of everything and please fear Allah before you do any action.

If there are people being deleted or bann,then there is a very solid reason to do so and I don't wnat anyone to question that.Allah knows everything and He is watching everything.So as long as your being a good muslim and your intention is good,you shouldn't be worried.

Assalamualikum


Salamualykum sister revert 2007, jazakallah khair for drawing attaention toward this issue, i totally agree with you in this regard ad ofcourse we should definitely keep some distance between brothers and sisters because after all we all are non- mahram. Same as you, i did notice it before!! when i was visiting the brothers profile and i found many brothers and sisters are interacting with each other on things which are not related to islam but as i am a new user (i just started using TTI often recently even though im an old registered member) I wasnt really sure if the moderators have noticed it and still allowing or they havn't noticed it. WE ALL ARE HERE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH AND TO LEARN ABOUT ISLAM AND WE SHUD BE CAREFUL WITH OUR ACTIONS AND WE DONT WANT TO EARN SINS IN HERE WHERE AS THIS SERVICE IS SET UP TO HELP US EARN SOME EXTRA REWARDS. jazakllah sister revert 2007 thanks once again.
 

Asiya-sparkles

Junior Member
Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim
Aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem

Assalamu alaikom wa rahmat Allahi wa burrahktohu,

I am going to sound I guess controversial. Please, remember that there is an addab for dealing with the opposite gender, it is not one of avoidance but one of limiting the interaction to speaking or communicating in a way without gentleness, limiting interaction to what is necessary and if for the purposes of seeking knowledge (who better than a married brother to say if my husband is quiet with me at times, is that normal? etceteras... )

Muhammad(saw) and Aisha(ra) in fact did mix with the opposite gender but maintained the necessary intentions in their heart, in their conduct and are both guides to us alhamdulillah.

Allah tells us to stay on the middle path, this means not introducing innovations or extremes in our religion. Yes, it is wise and good advice to not have soft and personal interactions, however, if a message is being left on an open area for a brother or sister, it is wrong to assume it is sinful or think the worst of them. If we see what is clearly harmful then of course we remind inshaAllah. But we must be careful not to judge people when we do not know their intentions and we should not assume that a sin has been committed when the words we read would be acceptable to us if from the same gender as ourselves, if anything, this should be a proof that the exchange is innocent.

Of course we must guard ourselves, but in doing so, we must guard ourselves from going to extremes.

I hope I have not caused offence to anyone.

Fi amanillah
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim
Aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem

Assalamu alaikom wa rahmat Allahi wa burrahktohu,

I am going to sound I guess controversial. Please, remember that there is an addab for dealing with the opposite gender, it is not one of avoidance but one of limiting the interaction to speaking or communicating in a way without gentleness, limiting interaction to what is necessary and if for the purposes of seeking knowledge (who better than a married brother to say if my husband is quiet with me at times, is that normal? etceteras... )

Muhammad(saw) and Aisha(ra) in fact did mix with the opposite gender but maintained the necessary intentions in their heart, in their conduct and are both guides to us alhamdulillah.

Allah tells us to stay on the middle path, this means not introducing innovations or extremes in our religion. Yes, it is wise and good advice to not have soft and personal interactions, however, if a message is being left on an open area for a brother or sister, it is wrong to assume it is sinful or think the worst of them. If we see what is clearly harmful then of course we remind inshaAllah. But we must be careful not to judge people when we do not know their intentions and we should not assume that a sin has been committed when the words we read would be acceptable to us if from the same gender as ourselves, if anything, this should be a proof that the exchange is innocent.

Of course we must guard ourselves, but in doing so, we must guard ourselves from going to extremes.

I hope I have not caused offence to anyone.

Fi amanillah


there is no such thinsg extremist in islam..do u thin it is that easy to enter Jannah?think about it...

we don't judge anyone whether they commit sins or not even i personally have proof they did but i don't have to tell the whole world as long as Allah knows what I am saying..i dont come to tti and post a thread without proof..i think carefully before posting each thread..we are not blaming anyone and we should blame ourselves....each and everyone of us should question ourselves-how far we have gone in such mixing with opposite genders..if we dont question ourselves now and we don't repent,Allah will question us on the Day of Judgement...

DO YOU THINK ENTERING JANNAH IS A PIECE OF CAKE?THINK ABOUT IT
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
most of us are aware of that notice that we received. but we still have brothers and sisters on our lists. i just want to say that brothers and sisters dont add one another because of the gender, but because they see good posts or behaviour. if you want to add me, fine. if you dont want to, fine. and yes i agree with sister Asiya. what is at TTI, stays here. there is no need to take it to msn, and if you do then thats a different story. if you know your limits, then you will know how far you can take it. other than that, all of a sudden this thing is becoming big. it wasnt this big before. so why make it big now. and also if we notice, the ones who are on the list dont interact as much as the ones who are not on each others list. i might be wrong. but anyway, it would be great if we all fear Allah and give good examples to one another.
 
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