Aisya al-Humaira
الحمدلله على كل حال
Bismillahi Ar-Rahmaan Ar-Raheem.
La haw la wa la quwwata illa billah! La ila ha illa anta subhanaka inni kun tu minaddhalimeen.
I am very sadden indeed. Of the discussions going on in this thread. While it is fine to ask for proof for a better understanding, but I dont see the need to be HARSH and UNKIND to this sister. From her first post, all she asked was for some positive comments for her to gain some strengths to move on in her life. But unfortunately it is the opposite thats been happening on this board. Ya Allaah, Ya Rabbi, forgive us Ya Rabb. Forgive us!
Brothers and sisters, if you remain to not believe that what happened is true and not some sort of a fairy tale, then it is up to you. But PLEASE refrain from saying bad words to one another. Are we not Muslims who are compassionate and loving towards each other? Are we not an ummaah who will stand with each other no matter in what circumstances?
This thread is not to debate whether Jinn exist or not, how everything happen etc etc. This thread was strated by a sister to get some words of encouragement. If any of you wants to debate on this issue, kindly open another thread.
Here, I will post a fatwa that I requested those who do not believe to read it, but seems like maybe some dont even bother to click on the link.
To all of those who have an inch of sympathy to our sister, do remember her in your prayers. I think thats the best we can do so far for her. May Allaah heal her soon. Ameen Ameen Ameen.
Last but not least, I dont see the need for any further discussion since the thread starter dont seem to want to reply anymore.
Lets muhasabaah on ourselves brothers and sister. Whats been happening in this thread, was it a good thing or vice versa? Astaghfirullah. I feel sad. I really do feel so.
Anyways, I hope you'll take care Sis.
Wassalam.
La haw la wa la quwwata illa billah! La ila ha illa anta subhanaka inni kun tu minaddhalimeen.
I am very sadden indeed. Of the discussions going on in this thread. While it is fine to ask for proof for a better understanding, but I dont see the need to be HARSH and UNKIND to this sister. From her first post, all she asked was for some positive comments for her to gain some strengths to move on in her life. But unfortunately it is the opposite thats been happening on this board. Ya Allaah, Ya Rabbi, forgive us Ya Rabb. Forgive us!
Brothers and sisters, if you remain to not believe that what happened is true and not some sort of a fairy tale, then it is up to you. But PLEASE refrain from saying bad words to one another. Are we not Muslims who are compassionate and loving towards each other? Are we not an ummaah who will stand with each other no matter in what circumstances?
This thread is not to debate whether Jinn exist or not, how everything happen etc etc. This thread was strated by a sister to get some words of encouragement. If any of you wants to debate on this issue, kindly open another thread.
Here, I will post a fatwa that I requested those who do not believe to read it, but seems like maybe some dont even bother to click on the link.
Jinn possession and the rulings on jinn possession
Can jinn possess humans? And if this is possible, then how will the person be able to account for their actions, whilst they were possessed, on the Day of Judgement?.
Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly:
Yes, it is possible for jinn to possess humans. Allaah says in His Book (Interpretation of the meaning):
“Those who eat Ribaa [usury] will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaytaan (Satan) leading him to insanity”
[al-Baqarah 2:275]
See also the answers to questions no. 11447, 42073, 39214 and 1819.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
The fact that a jinni may enter the body of a human is proven by the consensus of the imams of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Those who eat Ribaa [usury] will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaytaan (Satan) leading him to insanity”
[al-Baqarah 2:275]
and in al-Saheeh it is narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that “The shaytaan flows through the son of Adam like blood.” End quote.
Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (24/276, 277)
Secondly:
Possession is a kind of sickness. If a person who has this sickness is rational, then he has the choice and he will be brought to account for his words and actions. But if this sickness has overwhelmed him to the point that he has lost his mind and free will, then he is like one who is insane and is not accountable. Hence in Arabic the word mass (possession) is used to refer to junoon (insanity). See Lisaan al-‘Arab (6/217). But if he commits an act of aggression against another when he is insane and destroys his property, for example, then he must pay compensation for that.
See: Zaad al-Ma’aad (4/66-71)
It says in al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah (16/106):
The fuqaha’ are unanimously agreed that insanity is like unconsciousness and sleep, rather it is more severe in the loss of free will, and it makes whatever he says invalid. For the one who is sleeping, all his verbal statements, such as divorce, becoming Muslim, turning apostate, selling, buying, etc, are invalid. So it is more appropriate that such statements be invalid in the case of insanity, because the insane person has no power of reasoning or discernment. They quoted as evidence for that the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “The Pen has been raised from three: the sleeper until he awakens, the child until he reaches maturity and the insane person until he comes back to his senses.” Narrated by the authors of Sunan with a saheeh isnaad. The same applies to all verbal statements because of the potential for harm. End quote.
In (16/107) it says:
With regard to the rights of people such as compensation and the like: these are not waived, because he is not accountable for them, rather his guardian is responsible for paying financial dues from the wealth of the insane person. If he commits some crimes, he is accountable for them financially but not physically. If he destroys a person’s property when he is in a state of insanity, compensation must be paid, but if he kills someone there is no qisaas (retaliation), but the diyah must be paid.
And Allaah knows best.
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To all of those who have an inch of sympathy to our sister, do remember her in your prayers. I think thats the best we can do so far for her. May Allaah heal her soon. Ameen Ameen Ameen.
Last but not least, I dont see the need for any further discussion since the thread starter dont seem to want to reply anymore.
Lets muhasabaah on ourselves brothers and sister. Whats been happening in this thread, was it a good thing or vice versa? Astaghfirullah. I feel sad. I really do feel so.
Anyways, I hope you'll take care Sis.
Wassalam.