ISRAEL is the biggest terrorist organization in the world

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    Israel and terrorism.

    After reading most of the posts above. I'm truly saddened. I do not wish to drag myself into this biased political quagmire, but all I can say is that a coin does not exist without 2 sides.

    Let us not forget that the Jews, christians,muslims and other religions are all part of G-d's creation, and as human beings it is our duty according to G-d's commandments to love and embrace one another.

    As Yeshua said " Let him who is without sin, cast the 1st stone"

    Is there any one out there who can honestly do that?
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    islam is a semitic religion and arabic is a semitic language ! threre is no place in here for anti semitism we are talking about the policies of these nations not about the individuals so stop playing the victimes we had enough what`s happening in palestine has no justification! no excuse try to live one day in gaza city and then comment!!! this is not a racial context but a political one racism antisemitisme communisme nazisme are not the invention of the muslim allhamdulillah but "christians" or what remains of it!!!!!!
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    Yehshua pbuh said that to make it clear to the jews that no one is holy besides Allah swt and to make them understand that there is no saint or whatsoever who forgive sins and is worthy of being worshiped or that can intercied between the son of man and his creator the only judge some understood it and some didn`t!!!!
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    I asked you a question. What here is "anti-semitic"? You didn't answer that.


    Don't be throwing these terms and labels around without explanation.
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    i would give you a book so that you can next time better argue on this subject! it`s called "HOW ISRAEL LOST" by RICHARD BEN CRAMER it won the pulizer price an got honorable critics from the new york times ,herald tribune,frankfurter allgemein zeitung it`s author is not a muslim but a jewish journalist and intellectual, who happend to have an objective and experienced view!!!! check it if you dare!!!!! peace
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    Well, the Zionists use "Anti Semitics" to label Anti Zionists as "terrorist sympathizers" (as per it's Anti Islamic propoganda) .
    It's an excuse to spread hatred for crticiser's of Israel's terorrist activities.The minds of ppl are diverted to think that Israel suffers
    everything while Muslims are the ones killing others brutally.This is
    false.It is the Palestinians who are suffering, not Israel.It is Israel
    who is doing injustice.Israel uses this word only to show the innocence
    (which it never had) of itself and thus to create support for Israel
    and hatred for Muslims.
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    Where did you source that from. Its not in the scriptures.Nor is it in the Koran. When Yeshua said Let him (meaning everybody noy just the Jews) who is without sin (again not only the Jews), cast the first stone. This applies to all of us
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    Thanks for that. What I want to know is this. How can zionism be defined as being racist. I have looked up Wikipedia and it says nothing of the sort
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    man am sorry i think you are missing the point here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"i have not been sent to non other than the lost sheep of the house of israel"i don`t have the exact number but i``ll get it next time inschallah!!! of cource it an universal must for monotheism to leave the final judgement to Allah swt again some understood it through god`s mercy with him sending the reminder(the quran) some others still worship the saints! and Allah swt knows best of whom is guided and not .

    ps:nobody is without sin!!!!!!!!!!!! that is what i have been trying to tell you all the time! that`s why we pray for forgiveness and help that`s why the propehts themselves pbuthem all use to bown down on their knees asking for AllahSWT mercy and guidance! if anybody was to be without sin why would he pray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! may Allah guide you and soften your heart and our hearts




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    No sir I disagree. You being a muslim, your views will obviously be anti semitic and pro arab/palestinian. Myself and not being Jewish nor christian nor muslim will have views which are diametrically opposite to yours. That sir, is the tragedy of the situation. So lets agree to disagree. Otherwise this whole thread becomes a slanging match and not an intelligent debate.
    But one thing is for sure. G-d made an everlasting covenant with the Jews. He promised to to bring them back to a land flowing with milk and honey. This is mentioned numerous times in the scriptures.
    Now before you label me being anti muslim. I'm not. Nor am I a Jew. I believe in what the scriptures say. I also believe in what the Koran says. I have no reason to believe otherwise. If I did I would be a hypocrite.
    I am therefore commanded by the Almighty to love my neighbour, to turn the other cheek, and to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Its peace and understanding that i'm interested in Thank you sir.
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    i my view was anti semetic i would be against my own people in faith,remember that it was a political context that we were examining not a racial everybody is intrested in peace saying that you believe in all the scriptures and not seing the differences that are obvious in these scriptures is called being picky everybody loves peace but using the word peace in such a context of discussion is trying to cover a messy bed with a cover of satin! it is trying to be smart and outstanding but remember that if you really believe in the scriptures and there is one thing that they certainly have in commun it is called :HUMILITY and in order to achieve a certain degree of loving your brother as much as you love yourself you need humility am observing a little emphasis between what you say you want to achieve and i have no choice but to give you the benefit of the doubt(niya) it is indeed wonderful! but what you say at the same time misses that HUMILITY it is called as i said before trying to be smart ,outstanding and look good in the mirror! you got to be practical "madam" practical practical and practical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    peace be with you
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    Lets be reasonable here shall we. There are a lot of things that can be said against Israel. But to say the Jews are in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir etc. That they are promoting materialism in muslim countries and propagating unislamic customs. All I am asking is to be fair to all and sundry. By denigrating a part of Allah's creation just because they are Jews is nothing but racism and is totally contrary to the teachings of Islam
    By all means lets criticise where criticism is due. But to make such accusations without any foundation is really absurd and does nothing to foster harmony in humanity.
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    am glade that Allah finally answered my prayer hE was indeed quick this time in carressing your ego!! so tell me what can be said in your view against the policies of isreal?(am just quoting you!)come in don`t be shy the door is always open!promise i won`t reject you, i won`t;) by god
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    Israel is the biggest terrorist nation in the world

    No sir I'm not missing the point.
    With due respect to you, its you that is going round and round in circles and not willing to find the point.
    Surely you can understand what YESHUA is alluding to. No one is perfect and we are not in a position to judge each other - we're all sinful. YESHUA ain't. He is the only person in a position to throw stones. Not us.
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    you can`t even answer a simple question and you wanna go through theologie speculations trust me it would be too easy to prove you from your own 27 plus different bibles that that you are wrong i would rather let your own theologians do it JOHN HICK ,PAUL SChwarznau,hans küng and gerd lüdemann...............etc read some of them for you own information and you will be surprised!of what`s being hidden from you!but just answer the question right now use your fantasy now that it`s right on track!

    INTHE NAME OF ALLAH THRE BENEFICIENT THE MERCIFUL

    "WOE TO THOSE WHO WRITE THE SCRIPTURES WITH THEIR OWN HANDS AND THEN SAY"THIS IS FROM ALLAH"THAT THEY MAY TAKE IT FOR A PALTRY PRICE;WOE TO THEM FOR WHAT THEIR HAND HAVE WRITTEN AND WOE TO THEM OF WHAT THEY EARN"sura baquara 2:79

    IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE BENEFICIENT THE MERCIFUL

    "OH PEOPLE OF THE BOOK HERE HATH COME TO YO OUR MESSENGER REVEALING TO YOU MUCH THAT YE USED TO HIDE IN THE BOOK PASSING OVER MUCH(THAT IS UNNECESSARY)THERE HAS COME TO YOU A (NEW) LIGHT FROM ALLAH A LIGHT AND A PERSPICUOS BOOK!"SURA MAIDA 5:15


    IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE BENEFICIENT THE MERCIFUL

    " OH PEOPLE OF THE BOOK! NOW HATH COME INTO YOU OUR MESSENGER
    AFTER THE BREAK OUR MESSENGERS; LEST YE SHOULD SAY"THERE CAME UNTO US NO BRINGER OF GLAD TIDING AND A WARNER...."SURA MAIDA 5:19


    IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE BENEFICIENT THE MERCIFUL


    " AND IF YOU WERE IN DOUBT TO WHAT WE HAVE REVEALD TO OUR SERVANT THEN BRING FORTH A BOOK LIKE THE QURAN AND ASK YOUR WITNESSES TO PROVE IT CONTRARY TO ALLAH IF WERE TRUTHFUL, IF YOU CAN NOT AND YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE;SO BEWARE OF THE FIRE THAT IS PREPARED FOR THE BLASPHEMERS.."SURA BAQAR 2:23


    ps: the message is clear and simple don`t loose your time in vain talks and lower down that self destructive ego search and ask in a constructive manner instead of commenting all the time do it for yourself for god`s sake !!how much more love do you want me to show you man!!!!!! you can train on somebody else !!!and you"ll have to wake up early for that very very very early ;)
    www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2202
    www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2210&highlights=crucifixtion crucifiction

    SINDBAD:salah:


    wassalam sindbad:salah:
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    You know
    1/3 of world is Muslim, and we let all what happen to us. we are most in population yet we are still easy target to be blamed for anything.
    I don't know how to explain all what i feel but the reason why we are behind everything is education.
    education brings knowledge and knowledge brings wealth and power.
    when Allah first sent his wahi to Nabi Kareem (PBUH), First word of the beginning of the conversation was IQRA.
    Read.
    Basic principles of Islam like Brotherhood, Unity, Human Rights. are easily ignored today.
    We must know what we are here for and what are we suppose to do for a change for good.
    May Allah show us the right way.
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    As salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wabrakatuhu

    First they arrest Moh'd Saleh, a Plastinian aged 23. So far nothing is wrong with the picture!!

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    Then they pin Moh'd on the floor suspecting he had bombs attached to him. Still nothing out of the ordinary?

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    They have him on the floor still, and they try to question a second Plastinian on the scence. They seem to have definitly overpowerd him and have full control over the suitation.

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    That's not enough? OK!! Now they have to strip him to make sure he doesn't really have any bombs on him. AS we can see he is almost naked on the floor, he is obviously overpowerd and unarmed, there is no sign of a bomb or any resistant.

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    The picture speaks for itself !?!

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    The least you can while sitting in the comfort of your home is forward this file to as many people as possible espically westerns so they can have a glimse of what Palestinians go through!!

    Attached Files:

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    bottomline to me it seems that in the eyes of the jews the muslims will forever be seen as filths to them just because were not the "chosen" pple
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    Salam!
    I pray that somehow we unite and face these injustices, evils, problems etc.I wonder that being in such large numbers, why do we ALWAYS have to be blamed and receive the "dirty looks"?The point is that Jews are so much less than us in number yet they exceed us in power(political and military etc.), unity, education etc. Once Carl Jung went to an African country.He noticed the severity of famine, hunger and poverty there and gave a serious thinking about where could God's help be found there and then suddenly his heart and mind gave him the answer: "God isn't looking for alms, He is looking for action". May Allah help us to recover and avoid our previous mistakes and that we suceed in this world and hereafter, Ameen! Today, not only the Muslims but every other single human is looking forward for someone to put an end to the corruption, evil and injustices we all suffer from. So, we should start depending on our ourselves and believe in the Help of Allah and put our trust in Him, only and not depend nor give in to for the corrupters or trangressors or rather.I believe we can attain the past and the lost glory of ours, InshAllah if we cling to Islam and do whatever we can to stop evil spreading. throughout the world.
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