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[Mandy__]

Salaam alaikoum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh,

I would like to ask some questions (sorry for my Englisch)

My first question is about women taking their husband’s surnames.
I know it is not aloud in Islam, but what about the converted sister?
Is it aloud for her to take her husband's surname as second name?
So her father's surname first en then her husband's surname?

My second question is about the Arabic- English translators,
Who's translation of the Quran is the best and why?

- Muhsin Khan
- Yusuf Ali
- Pickthak
- Sahih international

Please answer my questions with Daliel.

DjazakAllahu ghairan,

 

[Mandy__]

oepsss..

I meant English :shymuslima1:

 

[saifkhan]

Salaam alaikoum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh,

I would like to ask some questions (sorry for my Englisch)

My first question is about women taking their husband’s surnames.
I know it is not aloud in Islam, but what about the converted sister?
Is it aloud for her to take her husband's surname as second name?
So her father's surname first en then her husband's surname?

My second question is about the Arabic- English translators,
Who's translation of the Quran is the best and why?

- Muhsin Khan
- Yusuf Ali
- Pickthak
- Sahih international

Please answer my questions with Daliel.

DjazakAllahu ghairan,

Assalamu 'alaykum warahamtu-llahi wabarakatuhu


welcome to the forum, wish you'll have a very good environment for discussing things insha Allah, all of our brothers and sister are masha Allah very helpful and knowledgeable.


for your first Question.

Praise be to Allaah.
It is not permissible for a woman to take her husband’s name or his family name because that is attributing oneself to someone other than one’s father, and imitating the kuffaar from whom this custom was adopted.

Al-Bukhaari (3508) and Muslim (61) narrated from Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Any man who knowingly attributes himself to someone other than his father is guilty of kufr. Whoever claims to belong to a people when he has nothing to do with them, let him take his place in Hell.”

“when he has nothing to do with them” means, when he has no lineage among them, as is highlighted in some reports.

Based on that, the husband has no right to force his wife to do that, and if he forces her to do it she should not obey him, because it is obedience to a created being which involves disobedience to the Creator. So she should persist in her refusal and explain to him that it is haraam, and look for Islamically acceptable means of establishing her rights from a legal point of view.

For more information please see the answer to question no. 6241 and 1942.

And Allaah knows best.

This woman’s desire to take an Islamic name and to change her family name from that of her former husband is quite correct, but it is not permissible for her to call herself after anyone except her legitimate father – no matter what the reasons for wishing to do so. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): "Call them (adopted sons) by the names of their fathers…" [al-Ahzaab 33:5].

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever calls himself by other than his father’s name (or attributes himself to someone other than his father), will be cursed by Allaah, the angels and all the people." (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 2599; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 6104).

And Allaah is the Source of help.

you can try other fatwa to find your answer, as far as I know/remember if it is hard for them to change the name, having a lot trouble, like paper works and other official documents, it is okay to keep, it is between him/her and Allah. but one should not call herself or address herself or let others to address herself other than her father's name or surname, wa-llahu a'lam


For more information please see the answer to question no. 6241 and 1942. in islam-qa. com you can check on details.


for your second question: Abdullah Yusuf Ali and Pickthall both are classical english, that would be hard for you, as you asked for apology in the beginning about your english.

however, i think Muhsin Khan will be the best for you.
Sahih Int. is also okay, but as far as I know, Muhsin khan's translation is very simple and written in detailed form, so easy to understand.

by the way, it is Muhsin khan and taqiuddin hilali translation.

for the second question, I can not show you daleel, but I've read all of them you mentioned, I like yusuf Ali translation, because, it contains commentary and English gives a different touch.

other brothers and sisters can confirm and that will work as a daleel for you


wa-llahu ta'la a'lam

barakAllahu feekum
wassalam

 

[Mandy__]

BarakAllahu feek for your time and answers. it's all very clear alhamdulillaah
May Allah swt grand you Djannah.

Fi amanilah

 

[Mandy__]

What if someone can read and understand english very very well, wich translator would you prefer?

 

[saifkhan]

as salam 'alaykum waraahmtu-llahi wabarakatuhu

Pickthall and Abdullah yusuf Ali is linda same type, classical English, it is not about English speaking people, like now what usually people speak with, one who uses to read classical english books, history , or other ancient books, literature, they will understand. other than that, like normal now-a-days guys, they wont understand even, something i guess.

however, I told about Abdullah Yusuf Ali, because, the lectured i used to follow, they were made from this translation, this is pretty known to me, the approach, i mean. yet, it has got a very good index, arranged by letter, words. it is not about which one is better translation.

also commentary on the bottom of the page, with reference from hadeeth and other Islamic history, also from other scriptures also, like the Gospels, Old and New Testaments. etc. so roughly, you can have the contrast of other faiths closer to Islam e.g. Christianity and Judaism and their mistakes.

but, all in all, Muhsin Khan is good, simple and it is translated so that one can have faster understanding.

I personally follow Abdullah Yusuf Ali
I also refer to Muhsin khan and Taqiuddin Hilali (I started with this one)

wa-llahu a'lam


BarakAllahu feekum ya ukht, for the dua
may Allah preserve you, protect you.


wassalamun 'alayka
fee amani-llah

 

[islamerica]

:salam2:

I would prefer Mushin Khan's translation. It seems more clear and accurate, others are just using fancy words to make sound like the bible (the "classical" english) or the translation choice of words are not quite descriptive or fully encompassing of the message.

 

[Perseveranze]

Just to add to the first questions answer; During the times of pre-Islamic Arabia, women's status was very low. The fathers would always want a son (rather then a daughter), and one of the biggest reasons for this was that the "son's would carry the family name", whilst the daughter would get married and adopt her husbands.

So Islam came and changed that, making sure the daughter would carry the family name.

 

[saifkhan]

:salam2:

I would prefer Mushin Khan's translation. It seems more clear and accurate, others are just using fancy words to make sound like the bible (the "classical" english) or the translation choice of words are not quite descriptive or fully encompassing of the message.

as salam 'aalykum warahmatu-llah

sister don't get me wrong, but I laughed when i read your post.
you are right, Muhsin Khan is all in all good.

But I laughed at what you wrote, like using fancy word to sound like bible, ha ha.

Bible was not revealed in English, sister.
It was translated and as because these are religious book, they are translated into classical English.

but the words and the sentences are more profound in the classical english translation.

wa-lahu a'lam

wassalam

 

[finding light]

I had absolutely no idea it was wrong to take your husbands name or surname after marriage. Every muslim I know does this. EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM and I live in a Muslim country! we are aLL wrong?!

 

[lovefordeen]

wa'alaikum assalaamu wa rahmathulahi wa barakathuhu

dear sister mandy and friends in tti,i'm editing my post as i feel inadequate to give advise regarding this now...i'm sorry...that's why i deleted what i wrote...
even though i gave a sheikh's opinion to support what i wrote,i feel guilty doing so...i'm not saying that what i said was wrong...Allah knows best..

i think it was better if i kept quiet on this issue..asthagfirulah..
assalaamu alaikum

 

[esperanza]

I had absolutely no idea it was wrong to take your husbands name or surname after marriage. Every muslim I know does this. EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM and I live in a Muslim country! we are aLL wrong?!

well the same here.. itook my husbands name..he never told me its wrong...

 

[lovefordeen]

wa'alikum assalaamu was rahmathualhi wa barakathuhu

assalaamu alaikum..

i have deleted the sheikh's opinion that i posted...i feel i'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on this ..sorry for commenting...asthagfirulah

 

[rahman2040]

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[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

No, not every Muslim woman changes her name. Somewhere in the caves of TTI there is thread on this subject.

 

[finding light]

hmmm, thanks all for the responses... When I get married I think this will be a problem for me. My husband will not sgree - I just know it! But I will persist and I will not accept to do something which is haraam. Its a pity tho coz he has such a beautiful name! I will stick to be proud to be called his wife

 

[esperanza]

hmmm, thanks all for the responses... When I get married I think this will be a problem for me. My husband will not sgree - I just know it! But I will persist and I will not accept to do something which is haraam. Its a pity tho coz he has such a beautiful name! I will stick to be proud to be called his wife

another quesioton on this point,,,it says we should take our fathers name..but one my father is not muslim and two my parents are divored,,,so surely beetter to take my husbands name,

 

[Perseveranze]

hmmm, thanks all for the responses... When I get married I think this will be a problem for me. My husband will not sgree - I just know it! But I will persist and I will not accept to do something which is haraam. Its a pity tho coz he has such a beautiful name! I will stick to be proud to be called his wife

Assuming you're a Muslim, who won't marry anyone else but another Muslim, why would the husband reject what it clearly Shariah, in regards to the wife taking her fathers name?

another quesioton on this point,,,it says we should take our fathers name..but one my father is not muslim and two my parents are divored,,,so surely beetter to take my husbands name,

Just because your father isn't Muslim does not mean he isn't your father... You still have to take his name, unless it is "offensive or ugly". Like, some people's last name might have something to do with Jesus(pbuh)'s divinity, this would obviously not be allowed in Islam.

 

[finding light]

Assuming you're a Muslim, who won't marry anyone else but another Muslim, why would the husband reject what it clearly Shariah, in regards to the wife taking her fathers name?

Because of their culture... Something that i "shouldnt have a say" in. I would be obligated to follow their culture. His mum and all the mum's before have done so... I am worried about this but like I said, I will show him the Sharia and explain to him so that he understands and agrees.

 

[Mandy__]

Re::

salaam alaikoum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakatuh,

Thanks for all the comments, djazakAllahu ghairan. Before i say anything without giving evidence:

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Ruling on wife taking the husband’s last name if the husband insists on that
I read on your website the questions and answers regarding the issue of women changing their surname upon marriage. My question is, can a husband force his wife to change her surname against her will? And what can the wife do if her husband and his family are pressurizing her to change her surname in the name of legal issues?.
Praise be to Allaah.


It is not permissible for a woman to take her husband’s name or his family name because that is attributing oneself to someone other than one’s father, and imitating the kuffaar from whom this custom was adopted.

Al-Bukhaari (3508) and Muslim (61) narrated from Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Any man who knowingly attributes himself to someone other than his father is guilty of kufr. Whoever claims to belong to a people when he has nothing to do with them, let him take his place in Hell.”

“when he has nothing to do with them” means, when he has no lineage among them, as is highlighted in some reports.

Based on that, the husband has no right to force his wife to do that, and if he forces her to do it she should not obey him, because it is obedience to a created being which involves disobedience to the Creator. So she should persist in her refusal and explain to him that it is haraam, and look for Islamically acceptable means of establishing her rights from a legal point of view.

For more information please see the answer to question no. 6241 and 1942.

And Allaah knows best.
Islam Q&A
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My second question came from a sister whose father is not a Muslim. the statements of the scholars on this subject and the ahadith are very clear.

Sisters we should be fearing Allah swt and don't follow our husband's culture or our own cravings. Not only in this case.

May Allah guide us all and forgive us for our mistakes.

(Again, sorry for my english)

Fi amanillah