To Sepithol

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
You are a lier. I demand that you go back to my posts and quote me writing your claim in red above. I have never said such a thing.

As a matter of fact I am married to my wife who DOES NOT wear hijab at all. Now please tell me next that I don't love and respect my dear wife!!! So much for your "accurate" theories and assumptions. LOL

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Cool brother. Ann is provoking you...she still do think muslim direspect women though a lot of evidence provided here. You argued that clothing is modesty but she (Ann) defended that it is not...perhaps she like to see women walking in naked publicly because it is not modesty which you brother defended clothing is modesty therefore you placed all women in a very respectful manner...Ann disputing this.

There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right (Path of) Guidance has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.. Qur'an, 2.256.
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
i've read many of the replies of sepipthol, i don't even understand why all of you people are wasting your time explaining things to her....she has blocked every word you said away from her mind. She just wants to go with WHAT SHE THINKS IS RIGHT ABOUT US. so please spare yourself some time dear brothers and sisters and do not waste your time on this member. by the way i will not be coming back to this thread as it is useless, not because by the one who wrote it but by the one (sepiptol) who is being informed.
 

soulzcore

Abd-Allah !!
1. There is also scientific information in the Vedic texts of the Hindu religion, which are far older than the Koran

Like ..?? Any example..?

septithol said:
2. The fact that scientific information exists in an ancient book does not necessarily mean the information came from a God. There are other possibilities, such as the fact that ancient civilizations may have known more about science than we beleive. Or the information could have come from aliens. Or spirits other than God.

Aliens, spirits :eek: :eek: :eek:

Quran has enough proof that it is from GOD..

But its funny you mentioned Aliens and sprits :p

septithol said:
3. The fact that some parts of a book are accurate (in the sense that they contain accurate scientific information) does not constitute proof that ALL of the book is accurate. It is possible for a book to contain mixed truths and lies.

Any lies you can possibly find in the QURAN..?

septithol said:
4. As I mentioned in my letter to you, accuracy or truth is a seperate thing from morality. It is possible for a fact to be true, but to be either immoral, or amoral. Also possible, some things are moral for some people but not for other people. It is moral, for instance, to prevent a 2 year old from playing with electric wires, but not moral to prevent an employee of the electric company from doing so.

It is immoral on the employee's part to play with wires on work...LOL


SUMMARY :: You know nothing about ISLAM..
 

BinteShafi

Left long ago
Let me remind you brothers and sisters following verses of Qur'an


As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.

Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).

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In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves).

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When it is said to them: "Believe as the others believe:" They say: "Shall we believe as the fools believe?" Nay, of a surety they are the fools, but they do not know.

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Allah will throw back their mockery on them, and give them rope in their trespasses; so they will wander like blind ones (To and fro).

These are they who have bartered Guidance for error: But their traffic is profitless, and they have lost true direction,

Their similitude is that of a man who kindled a fire; when it lighted all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in utter darkness. So they could not see.

Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path).

AND

Say : O ye that reject Faith!

I worship not that which ye worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

To you be your Way, and to me mine.
 

islamisthesolution

Junior Member
:salam2:

i am really sorry to have to say this but guys you are wasting your time with her .
if you keep busy explaining everything to her and she keeps arguing and not conviencing at all you wont have time to tell poeple who really want to learn about Islam what they should know . and of course those poeple deserve your attention and knowldge more than her .

thats my opinion and sorry if i offended anyone.
:salam2:
 

runayrus

Yearning Slave
...and she just kept mum.

Assalamualaikum brothers and sisters.

Hey Ann.



However, those who do wrong pursue their whims and desires without any knowledge. Who can guide those whom Allah has led astray? They will have no helpers. (Surat ar-Rum: 29)

Have you seen him who takes his whims and desires to be his god-whom Allah has misguided knowingly, sealing up his hearing and his heart and placing a blindfold over his eyes? Who then will guide him after Allah? So will you not then be mindful? (Surat al-Jathiyya: 23)



(Anyway, wasalam my brothers and sisters)
 

IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
Staff member
salam aelikum

Brothers and sisters ,please don't post just to mock at her or to give sarcastic comments or to make fun...Is that how Sahaba used to give Dawah ?Is that how we supposed to deliver message of Islam to the world ?Think before posting and have patience ...

You can't know when Allah will guide someone ,and He is the one who guides ...Let's not make conclusions of one another ...

waaleikum salam




 

Searching_soul

Junior Member
:salam2:

Im really proud of my brothers and sisters here. :)
Masha ALLAH, You are all really knowledgable and you have done your job of conveying the message of islam. Its up to Sepithol to read, read and read. And i don't know if she's doing that. Take some rest guys.
Remember its ALLAH who guides. In the days of the prophets, the disbelievers witnessed miracles right infront of their eyes and yet they turned away from the true message of GOD. So what we are doing is far less. But if ALLAH wills a person to be guided, he/she will be guided.

I hope you study Islam leaving all pre-concieved notions and put your bias views aside. You can't deny that islam is the truth. Thats why satan with his helpers among the mankind, are doing their very best to defame islam and its followers. And still Islam is growing. Isnt' that a miracle by itself? Tell me which religion today is taking such a beating as islam is. Its almost ALWAYS on the news one way or another. Another reason why islam is spreading so fast :) hehe thanks to the media. ALLAH (swt) will perfect his light, even if the disbelievers hate it :)

And im very proud of my revert bros and sisters. You have gained more knowledge than us born muslims. hehe... i think i should compete with all of you in seeking knowledge for the pleasure of ALLAH :)

:wasalam:
 

a_stranger

Junior Member
Peace for all:
I think for all those who seek truth Islam can leed them directly to their creator since Islam purity hearts from all impuirities and idols by stating clearly No God but Allah....This fact if setteled in the heart can wipe many kinds of illness , learning the teachings of Islam , then practising the teachings sincerily can clearify all the black spots within ......The worse kind of illness for hearts is being scattered and confused among many false Gods. Sincere advice try La Ellah Ella Allah , Muhammad Rasool Allah.
 

IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
Staff member
Hi Ann


Aisha, well that is actually two questions. We are here on this planet because some God (or Gods) created a universe a very long time ago with laws of physics such that life was possible, because they wished for life to exist. That said, any individual life form is the result of a lot of random events, there is no 'purpose' in the fact that I am a particular height and have slightly wavy hair, rather than being shorter and having straight hair like my sister. That is the roll of the genetic dice.

So what made you to come to this conclusion ?Is it just your own desires ? It came from your own imagination ? You know that human mind is very limited when it comes to the point what will happen to us after death ? who created this planet and etc.. ?

You can't know everything ,God created human mind limited ,you have to admit that, and stop thinking that if you have high IQ it means you know everything ...

Anyways about the purpose of life ,Im not sure if you know that ,but to a Muslim the whole purpose of life is "ibadah" or worship to the One True Almighty God on Terms and under His Conditions.

The term "worship" to a Muslim includes any and all acts of obedience to Almighty Allah.

So his purpose of life is a standing purpose; Worshipping Allah by accepting Allah's Will over his own.

This act of ibadah [worshipping, thanking and extolling the Greatness Almighty Allah on His Terms and Conditions] is for the Muslim, throughout his whole life regardless of the stage. Whether he is a child, adolescent, adult or aged person, he is seeking after the Will of the Almighty in all these stages.
His life here on earth although short, is full of purpose and is totally meaningful within the complete framework of total submission [Islam].


Similarly, in the Next Life as well, his faith, intentions, attitudes and good deeds will all be weighed into his account as favorable putting him in high esteem with his Creator and Sustainer.

Because Islam teaches that this life is only a test or trial for the individual to show him his true nature it is only natural that he would accept death as not so much an ending to everything but more as a beginning of the final and lasting life in the Hereafter.

Before entering into either of the final lodging places i.e.; Heaven or Hell, there must needs be a Day of Judgment or showing of one's true self to make them aware of their own nature and thereby understand what they have sent on ahead during the life here on the earth.

Every person will be rewarded [or punished] according to their attitude, appreciation and efforts during this stay on earth. None will be asked about the actions and beliefs of others, nor will anyone be asked regarding that which he was unaware of or incapable of doing.

As the life here is considered as an examination for the individual, the death stage is considered as a resting period after the test. It could be easy for those who were faithful and dedicated or it could be grueling and horrible for the wicked.

Reward and punishment will be in direct proportion to each person and it is only Allah, alone who will be the Final Judge over us all.

So in the teachings of the True Surrender, Submission, Obedience, In Sincerity and Peace to the Almighty One God [Islam], the line of life and its purpose is logical, clear and simple:

The first life is a test

The life in the grave is a resting or waiting place before the Day of Judgment

The Day of Judgment brings about the clear understanding of what will now happen to the individual based on his own desires and actions

The Permanent or Afterlife will either be spend in luxurious splendor or miserable punishment .


Do animals wear clothes most of the time? No, they are usually naked.

We are not animals ,we are higher beings .And God provided adornments for us to cover our shame....
 

IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
Staff member
Hi again

Do animals wear clothes most of the time? No, they are usually naked. But they are not immodest. Because an animal is not mentally capable of being immodest. Immodesty is a state of mind, and one that can exist only in human beings. A state of mind is not dependent on clothing. One can therefore be modest while naked, and immodest while dressed.

You are really funny ....Why animals dont' wear clothes ? LOL

Ok read this ,I hope it can explain you ...

What would you think of a home that provided no shelter and no privacy?

What would you think of a meal that provided no nourishment and no energy?

It does not take much to realize that if one were in the business of selling any of these he would go bankrupt very quickly. Yet, amazingly the rules seem to be different when it comes to another basic need: clothing, especially women's clothing.

All human beings, have an inborn sense of shame.


People of all religions agree on the need to cover themselves in public. Yet we also find a force that promotes nudity. Large segments of humanity are caught between two impulses: to cover or not to cover. Our clothing designs reflect different levels of compromise between these opposing forces.

Why? What is going on?

Science cannot answer the question. It cannot trace the origins of forces that take place deep in our mind. In addition, most of the scientific establishment is still dominated by the followers of Mr. Darwin and Darwinism is a system of belief not science. Their beliefs keep them from dealing honestly with a simple fact: while all other animals have a skin that provides them protection against the elements, human beings don't. Monkeys can live without clothing, human beings cannot.

The Qur'an answers the question. Our bodies did not develop our skin--- so thin and fur free that it requires external covering for protection---because of some unexplained evolutionary accident. Our Creator designed it this way so we will always need clothing.

He also put in us the sense of shame that forces us to cover ourselves.


On the other hand, the first act of Satan was to cause Adam and Eve to expose themselves:


"So by deceit he brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shameful parts became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the Garden over their bodies." [Al-A'raf 7:22].


This is the source of the tension we see. Two opposing forces. Good and evil.



With that background we can understand the importance of clothing. "Oh Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover your shame as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness---that is the best." [Al-A'raf 7:26].


The address here is to all humanity, emphasizing thereby the universal human need to cover ourselves properly.

The Qur'an then warns that Satan was not finished after his first attempt:

"Oh Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you in the same manner as he got your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their raiment, to expose their shame." [Al-A'raf 7:27].



Once we realize the nature of the dress issue, it is natural that we should turn to our Creator to seek guidance for the proper dress code. Qur'an and Sunnah have provided ample guidance on the subject which can be summarized in four essential principles.
 

mhamzah

Junior Member
Salam Alakum

It points out that it does not quite suit him, does it? Is this how the devil misleads people? He tells them, worship none but God; he insists that they fast, that they practice charity. Is this how the devil misleads people?

This is very true, and I think it is something that Islam should consider about OTHER religions, before condemning them as 'false'. As it says in the Christian Bible: "By their fruits thou shalt know them.".

Ann, maybe you are not reading properly or is it that you just want to have a argument just for the sake of argument. Tell me where does the Quran says bible or any other scripture is the work of the devil, Its not a claim made by any Muslims let alone the Quran/Islam. Had you only read the opening line of my first post, it would have been sufficient. Let me quote again.

Many religions say they are the only one and true religion and that other religions are an attempt to get to the truth (i.e. they are fake). This is not exactly an Islamic idea. What Islam says is that religion began with truth and it was after words that people differed amongst themselves.

Infact the Qur'an commands the Muslim to show respect for the books of other people, their religious scriptures. Quite opposite to your claim that Islam condemns other religions by calling them fake, Christian bible you quoted, it says Jews and Christians have access to the truth.

The Qur'an’s Three Accusations

What the Qur'an really criticizes is not anybody else’s books. It never mentions the Bible, but as a matter of fact neither does the bible, that is just a nickname for a collection of books. What it talks about are scriptures and what it criticizes is the way that some, I stress some people, use their scriptures.

It criticizes the handling of whatever people call scripture. It endorses the fact that the truth has been preserved by people that they have in their scriptures the truth, but they mishandle it.

It makes basically three accusations which probably you could go to any church and the pastor will say those things are true of those people over there.

(I) The Quran says some of the Jews and Christians pass over much of what is in their scriptures.

(II) Some of them have changed the words, and this is the one that is misused by Muslims very often giving the impression that once there was a true bible and then somebody hid that one away, then they published a false one. The Quran doesn’t say that. What it criticizes is that people who have the proper words in front of them, but they don’t deliver that up to people. They mistranslate it, or misrepresent it, or they add to the meaning of it. They put a different slant on it.

(III) And the third accusation is that some people falsely attribute to God what is really written by men.


Now probably in any church there will be people who will say, "Yes, I know a church that does all those three things. They pass over much of what is in their scripture, they‘ve changed things, they put the wrong slant on the words, and they’ve credited God with things that men said. "So really there is not a cause for a problem between the Christian and the Muslim on these charges, the Christian, I would like to think, would generally go along with those ideas."

And again, I stress it only accuses some people of doing that.

Now to make it easy for you I’ll give you couple of examples of each of the three accusations.

Point 1 - The Quran says some of the Jews and Christians pass over much of what is in their scriptures.

The virgin birth of Jesus and the miracles he demonstrated are cited by some as proof of his divinity. We need only read the Biblical account of Adam's creation, without father or mother, and the accounts of miracles associated with the prophet Elisha (Genesis and 2 Kings chapters 4,5,6). In the case of these two men, no Christian asserts their divinity, yet each has a qualification in common with Jesus.

So miarcles performed by Jesus (pbuh) is cited as proof yet they pass over miracles performed by Prophe Elisha.

Bible texts are produced to show that Jesus used the terms "son of man", "son of God", "Messiah", and "saviour". But each of these terms is applied to other individuals in the Bible. Ezekiel was addressed as "son of man" (Ezekiel chapter 3). Jesus himself speaks of the peacemakers as "sons of God" (Matthew 5:9). Cyrus the Persian is called "messiah" at Isaiah 45:1.

Again these terms are quoted to assert the divinity of Jesus, but the same terms are passed over when referred to other people.

At John 10:30 Jesus is quoted as saying "I and the Father are one." The Greek word translated "one" is HEN. Certain scholars have insisted that the only possible understanding of this word is "one in essence or nature". One need not be a Greek scholar to refute this unjustified claim. A counter example is sufficient. The same word is used by Jesus in John 17:11,21,22,23, as he includes his disciples in this oneness, whatever its meaning.

Again John 10:30 is quoted while John 17 is passed over.

These are just a few examples.

Point 2 - (II) Some of them have changed the words. What it criticizes is that people who have the proper words in front of them, but they don’t deliver that up to people. They mistranslate it, or misrepresent it, or they add to the meaning of it. They put a different slant on it.


Bible texts are produced to show that Jesus used the terms "son of man", "son of God", "Messiah", and "saviour". But each of these terms is applied to other individuals in the Bible. Ezekiel was addressed as "son of man" (Ezekiel chapter 3). Jesus himself speaks of the peacemakers as "sons of God" (Matthew 5:9). Cyrus the Persian is called "messiah" at Isaiah 45:1. The duplicity of translators is manifested here, for they inevitably render only the meaning of the word "Messiah" which is "anointed". Where other Bible verses seem to refer to Jesus, they prefer to transliterate "Messiah" or the Greek equivalent "Christ". In this way they hope to give the impression that there is only one Messiah. As for "saviour", the word is applied to other than Jesus (2 Kings 13:5). Christians choose to cite the forty-third chapter of Isaiah as proof that there is only one saviour. Again, translators have tried to obscure the fact that God is the only saviour in the same ultimate sense that He is our only nourisher and protector, though men also have these assigned tasks. By over specifying this pronouncement in Isaiah they hope to have us believe that God equals saviour and Jesus equals saviour therefore Jesus equals God. The conspiracy of modern translation is easily demonstrated. The King James Bible of 1611 is everywhere available. Compare it to a more recent translation, say the New English Translation. In the earlier version we find 2 Kings 13:5 contains the word "saviour", but in the newer version the synonymous word "deliverer" has been substituted. In fact, "saviours", the plural, will be found at Obadiah 21 and Nehemiah 9:27. Here again, by substituting a different word, the connotation of divinity tied to the word "saviour" has been guarded in modern versions by less than honest translation.

Present day bible contains only 4 gospels, however its a well know fact, there are many other gospels as well.

(III) And the third accusation is that some people falsely attribute to God what is really written by men.

Now before I give some examples of this accusation, let me tell you, this accusation is also to be found in the bible itself.

How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain. (Jeremiah Chapter 8: 8 KJV)

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/jer008.htm#008

8How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’, when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie? (Jeremiah Chapter 8: 8 RSV)

http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Jeremiah+8

In one of the New Testament Books, Paul goes on to list the men he once baptimised and finished as saying, there were others, but I don’t remember them now. This is the kind of objections Muslims have with some Christians who insist that every word in the bible is the word of God. Is this how God works, that He says don’t expect me to remember it now, it was a long time back?

Secondly the various bible out there is proof, that people have attriuted what is written by men to God. They all are not same, just for the sake of argument, lets assume (for the sake of argument) that one bible is 100% word of God. The rest of them (and there are many), will still contain words attributed to God which is actually written by men. But I have already highlighted the kind of stuff Muslims object to (don’t committ excesses in your religion, and dont attribute to God what is written by men).


May Allah quide us closer to the truth

Salam Alakum,
 

Qur'an&Sunnah

Traveler
Actually, I would probably be personally rather shocked to see someone walking naked in public. But my personal shock is irrelevent to what constitutes modesty.

Perhaps this will help you to understand: Do animals wear clothes most of the time? No, they are usually naked. But they are not immodest. Because an animal is not mentally capable of being immodest. Immodesty is a state of mind, and one that can exist only in human beings. A state of mind is not dependent on clothing. One can therefore be modest while naked, and immodest while dressed.

:salam2: to my Brothers and Sisters in Islam,

Now, I do not waste my time on this person because they have made their decision to reject Islam even though the evidence have been given to them. So I'm not looking for a debate because it makes no sense debating a Kaffir who wants to remain in darkness.

But there is something that annoys me and a lot of the disbelievers do this. They compare themselves to animals. What is this? Human Beings were created by Allah with intellect and intelligence. Homosexuals compare themselves to animals saying how a monkey can be with its own gender, or a whale, or a sea-horse, and now this kaffir is comparing human nudity to animals. Is this sick or what? But you know what, it is fitting for the disbelievers to compare themselves to animals. Because a person who is attracted to their own gender is influenced by Satan (Shaytaan) and is bent on his/her own desire and they ARE ANIMALS. A person who wants to walk outside in the NUDE is an ANIMAL. This is morally, Islamically, and any other -ly INCORRECT. So the disbelievers choose to compare themselves to animals so they have become animals. SubhanAllah May Allah protect us from the Shaytaan and his minions, and grant us Jannatul Firdous.

You know what happened to those who wanted to be homosexuals and rape their own genders, and walk around nude, etc. They were called Sodom (Sudoom), and Prophet Lut (AS) were sent to them. In the end, Allah destroyed them and rained on them baked clay, and you know where they are now...the DEAD SEA. Do you see any of them remaining? No. This story is also in the Bible. And that is how that word Sodomy came about because of these disgusting people. They were animals.

Astagfirullah, I am sorry to the brothers and sisters if my words are harsh, but the disbelievers will not ever believe until the Angel of Death takes their soul away from them and they see that Allah is surely the King of the heavens and the Earth, and when Munkar and Nakir come and ask them questions in their graves, or when they graves close in on them, or when they see Hell, or when they walk across the Sirat with no light so that they fall, THEN only then will they believe that the promise of Allah is true and that the believers were those who spoke the truth.

So when they are in hell, as it says in the Qur'an, they will ask where are those who were wrong or untruthful in the Earth, and it will be made known to them that the people they thought was wrong was of those who actually spoke the truth and that they are residing in a Garden of Bliss. And when they call up to us and ask us for water or any provision from Allah, we will call out to them saying it is Haraam for you because you took your religion as a distraction and amusement and whom the worldly life deluded. Then they will know the truth. So to make a thread for someone who rejects Islam, it is pointless. It is like making a thread for Abu Jahl or Abu Lahab. They have already decided their fate so let them live it. This sister in this thread wrote Surah Kafirun. And in it it says to you be on your way and on to me my way. So as Muslims we should Qaalu Salaam, and end it. If she asks a question then we can answer it but to spend our time debating with someone who has already Rejected Allah and His Messenger (SAW), it is pointless.

May Allah see our efforts in the world and reward us with Jannatul Firdous in the next Ameen thooma Ameen

:salam2:
 

IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
Staff member
salam aleikum

So to make a thread for someone who rejects Islam, it is pointless. It is like making a thread for Abu Jahl or Abu Lahab. They have already decided their fate so let them live it. This sister in this thread wrote Surah Kafirun. And in it it says to you be on your way and on to me my way.

I agree with you

waaleikum salam
 

Qur'an&Sunnah

Traveler
salam aleikum



I agree with you

waaleikum salam
:salam2:

And may Allah see your efforts for the sake of Him and build you a palace in Jannatul Firdous, Allah (SWT) says to the people of Jannah, that surely their efforts are appreciated so May Allah Appreciate you for the effort sister :) And may He appreciate all of our efforts Ameen.

:salam2:
 

BigAk

Junior Member
It did not take me long to realize that it's futile to keep with Ann of Wisconsin.. Now everyone else is slowly coming to that conclusion. The base of her logic is very flawed from origin... How can you expect to build on top of such base?? All will crumble and fall at any conclusion.

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BinteShafi

Left long ago
salam aleikum



I agree with you

waaleikum salam

I was extremely amazed to see your persistence, diligence, and determination dear sister SubhanAllah. May Allah grant you happiest life and may HE multiply your reward thousand times and give you highest place in Jannah. May Allah give abundant reward in both worlds to everyone who put their efforts....Ameen Ya rabbalA'lameen
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh


Jazakillahu khayr sister Aisha for your work here and also to all the other brothers and sisters who work hard to do the ultimate love of trying to help someone to believe in Allaah and to understand Islaam.

However, my advice is never to get angry or upset, have patience. If someone speaks ill of Islaam or does not understand it, the onus is upon them to be researching and trying their best to understand what we say.

We are not sheep or without brains here, we find Islaam and accept it from our hearts. We know it is the truth and we have the evidence from the Qur'aan and the Sunnah. It is upon others to look and begin from the foundations up, to see what Islaam truly means.

The issue here, is firstly of pure Monotheism, Tawheed. That we worship Allaah alone, submit to Him alone, pray to him alone, "la shareeka lahu". He has no helpers, nor is he of any need of His creation. We are in need of him.

La ma'bud bi haq ila
llah, there is no Deity worthy of worship Except Allaah. - Here, this deity, can be any of the false Gods, pleasures, ideas that people take instead of Allaah. - However, Allaah is One and the Lord of all His slaves. Whether we like it or not. If a person rejects Alllah, like the atheists, or those who do Shirk by associating partners with Allaah such as the Christians, etc, they are still Allaah's Slaves ! None of us have any control over our lives, our posessions, or what the next day will bring, except through Allaah's love and mercy for His creation.

Therefore, person has two choices, either to be a disobedient Slave of Allaah, a person who rejects the Creator and sustainer of all that exists....

Or a true Slave to Allaah who submits to Allaah alone, and by submitting to Allaah, accepts the messengership of the last and final Messenger, Muhammad :saw:

Allaah the Most high said,

In the third Surah of the Qur'aan, surah Aali-Imraan:

18. Allâh bears witness that Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), and the angels, and those having knowledge (also give this witness); (He is always) maintaining His creation in Justice. Lâ ilâh illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

19. Truly, the religion with Allâh is Islâm. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh, then surely, Allâh is Swift in calling to account.

20. So if they dispute with you (Muhammad SAW) say: "I have submitted myself to Allâh (in Islâm), and (so have) those who follow me." And say to those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and to those who are illiterates (Arab pagans): "Do you (also) submit yourselves (to Allâh in Islâm)?" If they do, they are rightly guided; but if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message; and Allâh is All-Seer of (His ) slaves[].

21. Verily! Those who disbelieve in the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, … announce to them a painful torment.

22. They are those whose works will be lost in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers.

23. Have you not seen those who have been given a portion of the Scripture? They are being invited to the Book of Allâh to settle their dispute, then a party of them turn away, and they are averse.

24. This is because they say: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a number of days." And that which they used to invent regarding their religion has deceived them.

25. How (will it be) when We gather them together on the Day about which there is no doubt (i.e. the Day of Resurrection). And each person will be paid in full what he has earned? And they will not be dealt with unjustly.

26. Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O Allâh! Possessor of the kingdom, You give the kingdom to whom You will, and You take the kingdom from whom You will, and You endue with honour whom You will, and You humiliate whom You will. In Your Hand[] is the good. Verily, You are Able to do all things.

27. You make the night to enter into the day, and You make the day to enter into the night (i.e. increase and decrease in the hours of the night and the day during winter and summer), You bring the living out of the dead, and You bring the dead out of the living. And You give wealth and sustenance to whom You will, without limit (measure or account).

If someone is sincere to learn about Islaam, then great, otherwise, this is our way, and you have your own way,

Surah 109, Surah al Kaafiroon...

1. Say (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)to these Mushrikûn and Kâfirûn): "O Al-Kâfirûn (disbelievers in Allâh, in His Oneness, in His Angels, in His Books, in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection, and in Al-Qadar, etc.)!
2.
"I worship not that which you worship,
3. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
4. "And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping.
5. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
6. "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islâmic Monotheism)."
 
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