abou haytam
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yes because they enjoy being like that THERE ARE REASONS!!
Our prophet (pbuh) did it in his life??
yes because they enjoy being like that THERE ARE REASONS!!
No, our prophet(peace be upon him and his family) havent done this. Again I repeat : We don't beat ourselves because of grief. Why should we be sad?Our prophet (pbuh) did it in his life??
No, our prophet(peace be upon him and his family) havent done this. Again I repeat : We don't beat ourselves because of grief. Why should we be sad?
We just remember that Hz Hussein was killed in cruelist manner they even did'nt give water 2 his children. Millions of muslims watched it. But it's not sad. it's eternal fight of goodand evil. He died 2 show that we should fight in such cases.He gained highest decree. Persian muslims beat themselves I haven't asked them why.They may say reasons. But I think they have mixed their old national traditions with religion.
assalamoalaikum,
in response to evidence brought up by a muslimah 86 against the shias now can we consider the shias as muslim and trust them?
I 2nd that.
The funny thing is that shia use Hussein (ra) for their unjustified beating. As far as I know shia killed Hussein and his family(somebody correct me if i am wrong)they sluthered them in the dessert like animals with no mercy. And the saddest part is that they(shia) called him to come ti Iraq and then they betreyed him
Since shia are divided in many sects, my question would be, are they all beating them self?
I just watched the video with subtitles. I THINK SOMEONE SHOULD ANSWER THIS PROPAGANDA.
We shias accept Hz Muhammed (peace be upon him & his family)as a last prophet.We believe that Allah never left the world without huccet.So because of this there's imamathood after prophethood.Vahy ended after Hz Muhammed.Imams don't receive vahy. There r 12 imams.As Sahihs narrate there will 12 khalifes from Quraish?Bani Hashime.
About companions.A lot time before our prophey was born nearly WHOLE WORLD waited 4 last prophet.(exapmle in Persia zoroastrians knew).Arabs knew from jews and they traveled a lot.When our prophet declared about vahy some ppl understood that he was the prophesized one and he will be a leader of a state.Time by time they accepted Islam.Others didn't want lose their positions so accepted like munafiqs in Medina.Then there's sura called Munafiqun in Quran?After prophet died they showed their true faces.
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
Do u love our prophet? Can u call im mad? How can Omar say that hz Muhammed is not knowing what he is talkng? I can accept everything but not this. What's wrong allowing deing person writing his will? Our prophet was he whose soul was created before everything , whom Allah talked without curtain,who was sinless, best of humankind. Omar always rejected Hz Muhammed.dont do this that way do another way.I remember one. On the left side of Hz Muhammed was sitting a young boy,on right side Hz Abu Baker.Hz Muhammed gave the first cup 2 youg boy.Omar wanted 2 reject "U should give it 2 Abu Baker" Hz Muhammed said u should begin from the right. If someone doesn't trust his prophet what would u think?
According to whose right was khalifat. If u read Sahihs and other books carefully u would understand.
According to Sahihs. Most times they don't publish them until they don't make necessary changes in some hadiths.Some hadihs which r about good traits of Hz Ali appear under the name of Omar.
Who killed Hz Hussein? All 12 imams were killed beginning from Hz Ali ending in 11th imam.Hz Mehdi disappeared.Then who killed other imams? HZ Hussein was invited by Kufa ppl.They betrayed him got afraid of losing their health
& wealth. BUT, if he wanted he would have done beyat 2 the son of Muaveya who was a kafir.But he didn't.An army was sent against him but he didn't.
During sunni khalifes until Omar ibn Abdul Aziz they used 2 curse Hz Ali in mosques everyday.They did it because they saw imams as a big threat 2 their power.
Hadith : Unfortunately I don't remember it exactly . Omar said: If Ali wasn't , Omar would be lost?
Was salamu aleykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
The funny thing is that shia use Hussein (ra) for their unjustified beating. As far as I know shia killed Hussein and his family(somebody correct me if i am wrong)they sluthered them in the dessert like animals with no mercy. And the saddest part is that they(shia) called him to come ti Iraq and then they betreyed him
Since shia are divided in many sects, my question would be, are they all beating them self?
can you bring hadeeth number from sahih for everuthing you said here ?????
OK.We shias always mistreated & misnderstood.Our enemies unite,but we can't accept
each other.We both accept Allah & prophet Muhammed(peace be upon him and his family).Shias don't beat themselves because of grief.I m shia but I dont beat myself.Maybe they beat themselves cause they want 2 show that they will endure everything in the sake Allah as Hz Hussein(pbh)did.Every year remembering his fight against enemies of Allah,I think is very necessary.Also I dont approve beating
According to Sahihs. Most times they don't publish them until they don't make necessary changes in some hadiths.Some hadihs which r about good traits of Hz Ali appear under the name of Omar.