Why a Texan reverted to Islam

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IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
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With all due respect,what are you doing here again Septihol,SubhnaAllah.

Like I remember you were banded,so by which rules you have actived acount again Astagfirullah???


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salam aleikum sister

This site is for Muslims and non Muslims ,let's remember that and be patient inshaAllah ..Remember how much the Prophet peace be upon him was patient with everyone ...


waaleikum salam
 

Asja

Pearl of Islaam
salam aleikum sister

This site is for Muslims and non Muslims ,let's remember that and be patient inshaAllah ..Remember how much the Prophet peace be upon him was patient with everyone ...


waaleikum salam

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We la hawle we la quwete ila billahi

Allhamdullilah that the greatest patient is in and with Allah. We will be patient with Allah becouse He has promissed The Day of Judgment when everyone will receive what he or she desearves. To noone will be done injustice, becose Allah is the Most Justice One. SubhanAllah He is.

Well we all hope that other members that have been "banded" will have their accounts back activeted as we need to be patient with them too. Becouse othervise that would be great injustice towards them. And Allah asks from us to be justice Allhamdullilah.

And we all know Alhamdullilah that this site is for Muslims and non Muslims, but we also know that forum rules are the same for every member.

We la hawle we la quwete ila billahi

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BigAk

Junior Member
Ann,
You didn't answer brother Musulman's question: What's your excuse for not finding the true religion? You'd better have one handy because no one knows when they're going to leave this world. You cannot use the excuse that you didn't know about Islam, that you never received the Quran or never heard of prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him because you have.

Your parable about missing exits or taking bad turns is apt. But why would you make so many mistakes in your trip when a good map is available and plenty of good people are eager to tell you which roads to take and walk them with you?

You answered that question when you said, "I thought I knew better than the map!" That's your demon and the sooner you rid yourself of it the better.

You're wasting your ink.... Have you not noticed; fewer and fewer people are having any kind of constructive dialogs with Ann??. She's on a different plant.

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Asja

Pearl of Islaam
Dialup???? LOL... What year do you think this is?? Do you live out in the sticks?? Hahaha.. That explains alot...

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Assalamu Allaicomu brother BIGAK
Well first of all,I do not see for waht it will be relevant infomrtion if someone use dial up or any other kind of etablishing internet concetion.If you use DIAL UP conection that should show what??? And if you use some other conection that should mean waht???SubhanAlah,I am really confused.

Brother Big Ak if you did not notice untill now lady Septihol is a woman and you need to have fulll respection towerds her like a woman and like a lady does not metter if she is Muslim or Non muslim Alhamdulillah.Your way of talking with her is disrespectfull and I must say UnIslamic because our beloved Prophet s.a.w.s. tought us diffrent Alhamdulillah.he tought us to RESPECT others Alhamdulillah,especialy to respect woman.

Imagine that instead of Septihol is your mother,sister,wife or daughter,and that someone talk with them on the way you talk with lady Septihol,how would they would feel and how would you feel???

Alhamdulillah I am saying this for the sake of Allah,and please brother Inshallah in the furure have more respection towrd Septihol.

May Allah guide us all

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IbnAhmad

Junior Member
salaam

get in their sister Asja!!! lol
yehhh ur dead rite sister... c'mon 'Big AK' (cool name btw...) we dont wna see bullying on TTI!!!

plzzzzzzz everyone just smile and cool down haha :) :) :)

wassalam
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
Don't worry, Ann will not take seriously. She is on a mission but she is learning a lot from us. I know because she PM me few times and I find she can accept good explanation. I hope someday she will be a muslim. It will not do any good to Allah but to her self especially in life after, inshAllah.
 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
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:salam2:

Shouldn't we be sticking to the original "why a Texan reverted to Islam"???

From what I read here..and I looked up after...it seems that some people are stuck on the same track..and in their own startrek-like philosophy over life and the divine...so perhaps we should use a treatment that had been used since the beginning of time..had proved to be *very affective*..and nobody summarized it better than Imam Al-Shafe'e (rahimahu allah)..when he said...

Silence (towards) the ignorant and foolish is an honor,
And with it, virtue is further assured
Have you not seen that lions are feared in their quietude?
And dogs are subdued though they bark (incessantly)?


Silence..combined with neglect of those hearing nothing but the echo of their own dim thoughts...will reduce all forms of annoyances and unnecessary waste of time..try it brothers and sisters..and see for yourselves..you will all LOVE it! :)

Brother Salem..Baraka Allaho Feek for the videos..I benefited from them much..jazaka allah khair

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Musulmanin

Junior Member
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I don't think brother BigAk was trying to be disrespectful with his comment about dialup. I think the brother was just joking. As we don't really know each other here, let's just give a benefit of doubt.
 

BigAk

Junior Member
Sister Asja, :salam2:

You are completely correct. Insha Allah I will control myself better with Septithol in the future... I will try ....

However, I really did not really say anything offensive. She is a lady from Wisconsin and I live in the midst of this American culture and what I wrote is nothing compared to the standard of men respecting women.. And I said I was only kiddin' anyway.

In addition, I believe that people earn their respect and demand it with action among their peers. If you read all my other posts you'll surly notice how extremely respectful I am to all the sisters in this community. When it comes to Ann, and if you read her posts, it's as if she's inviting disrespect on herself. I live in America and this country is full of her type. With their actions and ideas they invite disrespect on themselves... Look what she says in other threads for example

Clothing is irrelevent to modesty. One can be modest while completely naked, or immodest while wearing any amount of clothing. People who are dependent on clothing to behave appropriately are immature, and those who demand that OTHERS wear clothing to compensate for their own lack of self control are apostates.

I actually think public nudity should be legal. What one person wears or does not wear does not cause harm to another person (I do not regard someones supposed 'offense' or inability to control themselves as *harm*).

Now do you still think I was disrespectful in the light of her quote thinking that she's being respectful and modest by walking naked in public??

However... I do agree with you sister Asja... I should not stoop myself to such low level and become as immoral as they are. I promise to exercise better restraints when it comes to Ann from Wisconsin. But, believe me sister if you ever come to the US, you'll find out that I did nothing compared to what these women subject themselves to in this country. Prostitution is out in the open and immorality is the norm in this country. Somehow the wrong became right and the right became wrong in the US. It's totally backward here from this standpoint. But, I'm sure Ann believes in her heart that much of it is just fine and dandy.

Once more, my apologies to Ann if I happened to offend in any way. After all I was only kiddin'

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BigAk

Junior Member
Don't worry, Ann will not take seriously. She is on a mission but she is learning a lot from us. I know because she PM me few times and I find she can accept good explanation. I hope someday she will be a muslim. It will not do any good to Allah but to her self especially in life after, inshAllah.

It's all in the hands of Allah. Somehow I feel this would be an impossible task... nothing short of a miracle from Allah. If this ever happens, I may have to review my ideas.

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Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
Brother BigAk, honestly I enjoy reading you and Ann's counter arguments. You managed to narrow her down many times yet Ann seem not giving up saving her face.
 

IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
Staff member
Hard Rock Muslim, you wrote:



That is a very good question, although it is misphrased. I do not think that 'Islam is not a true religion'. I do think it is a true religion. However, I do not think it is the ONLY true religion. I also do not think that it is uncorrupted by man, or that all people who call themselves Muslims are actually practicing Islam.

As for a few of the points in Islam I disagree with (there are many), here are a couple:

1. I think that God has far, far more important things to worry about than what people wear, or their sex lives. Not the least of which is the charge of electrons and other subatomic particles.

2. According to Islam, a wife is to obey her husband. Now, there is a person on this board (I will not mention who he is or what he said, in order not to embarrass him) who, made a comment showing that, as an adult, he was ignorant of scientific facts that I was aware of when I was 4 years old. And if I were to marry him, I would be required to obey someone with so much less knowledge than myself? I don't think so.

Hi Ann ,
I think obeying in your understanding is different from obeying to a husband from the view of Islam ..

Look, in Islam the husband provides for the family and feeds the family ,he buys everything for his family ,he clothes his wife and his children and making sure they have all the comfort ...Imagine this kind of person does all this to you ,you don't have to work,pay bills ,you can be like a queen ...And when husband ask you a favor to do something for him ,will you disobey him after all he does for you? Will you be disrespectful to a person like that?

Marriage in Islam is not a slavery, its a contract between 2 people to live in love and respect and do everything to please Allah and walk together to Eternal life and to help each other..
Now when the husband tells the wife to do something that is against teaching of Islam or tells her to do something immoral and etc.. ,then of course she does not have to obey him...
As I said Im sure you take this word from your own view ,from your western prospective ...
 

BigAk

Junior Member
Also, you wrote Big Ak that prostitution is practiced 'openly' here in the USA. I find that a curious statement. Prostitution is illegal everywhere in this country except in some small counties in Nevada, and THERE it is practiced only in brothels that are far from any cities. I'm 40 years old, and I've been several times in several large cities (Milwaukee, Austin, Orlando, Los Angeles) and never actually seen any prostitution going on. I suppose it does exist, since I read about it in the newspaper, and I imagine if I were morbidly interested in doing so, I could find some prostitutes if I tried. But I've no interest in seeking prostitutes out, and I can only wonder how it is that you are seeing so many prostitutes practicing openly all the time, when I haven't seen a single one in 40 years. The only thing I can think is that you are deliberately looking for them, which disqualifies your statement of the prostitutes 'practicing openly'..

Are you in complete denial or what??? Review your statements in red, would you? Could you detect contradictions? Last time I checked Nevada was still one of the states of the US.. Your newspapers and TV news convey to me that prostitution is practiced in the open as some rings get busted every now and then.

Have you been reading the news?... Maybe it's time to get some TV in your house.. Apparently it's been discovered in your country the US; that prostitution rings are running wild under what they call "Escort Services" I call it prostitution out in the open is because if it was not practiced openly YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT would be more active in shutting them down.. But, guess what your own government officials are ACTUAL CLIENTS of these prostitution rings.. Have you not heard of your governor Eliot Spitzer's deal with the prostitute Ashley Dupree? Maybe it's time to get some TV in your house so you could be in touch with your reality. So no I'm not looking for them deliberately.. I only knew about them through your government officials; hence that answers your volgur statement in blue (nice try).

Apparently these prostitution rings are a multi billion dollar industry in your COUNTRY OF THE FREE the US according to your own news records. Just because you don't see the hookers running on the street, it does not mean it's not practiced in the open. Your governemnt not only casts a blind eye on it, your government officials are actually playing in the gallery... Spitzer was the unlucky one who got caught. It wasn't long ago.. last March actually ... LOL.. Even your religious leaders and minsters are engaging in the festive.. Have you not heard of Jimmy Swaggart? Just to mention only one....

Here ... read ---> http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20183518,00.html

Here... Swaggart in 1988 ---> http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/21/newsid_2565000/2565197.stm

Get a TV!!!!

You have not seen a single prostitute in your 40 years is because your values have stooped down so low that you have developed thick skin to low morals that you have become desensitized. You're a typical case in the west I see all the time.

Sister asja... Do you see now what I mean by demading respect?? Just read this free liberated woman Ann from Wisconsin statement in blue and tell me who's disrespecting who?? I have not even quoted what she's said about Islam in the past. I am really surprised she's still on this site... But, it's quite intertaining though.

But as I have promised.. Although Ann "demands disrespect", I will not lower myself to such low level.

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BinteShafi

Left long ago
Brothers and sisters...She is extremely closed minded. She can not OR does not want to think beyond the circle she has already got in her mind. Every argument hits the wall... not a thoughtful person. I would rather suggest "Leave her Alone" and WAIT
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
Hard Rock Muslim, you wrote:



That is a very good question, although it is misphrased. I do not think that 'Islam is not a true religion'. I do think it is a true religion. However, I do not think it is the ONLY true religion. I also do not think that it is uncorrupted by man, or that all people who call themselves Muslims are actually practicing Islam.

As for a few of the points in Islam I disagree with (there are many), here are a couple:

1. I think that God has far, far more important things to worry about than what people wear, or their sex lives. Not the least of which is the charge of electrons and other subatomic particles.

2. According to Islam, a wife is to obey her husband. Now, there is a person on this board (I will not mention who he is or what he said, in order not to embarrass him) who, made a comment showing that, as an adult, he was ignorant of scientific facts that I was aware of when I was 4 years old. And if I were to marry him, I would be required to obey someone with so much less knowledge than myself? I don't think so.

I think you are making fun of God (astafirullah..). I suggest you do a lot of reading on "Who is God" according to various faiths. Make a comparison and I let you decide with some wisdom. There could be only one true religion not few...religion is a way of life and it will be only fair if everyone follow single religion. You can't have one leg in the mud the other leg in the water...either you jump into the mud or into the water.

As the Creator and Owner, Allah has the right to tell you the way of life that He approve not the other way round. Islam is the only way of life and the best and most complete. When you say "way of life" it should cover everything, from salvation, clothing, food, moral, sex etc. When I learn Islam, I was surprise Islam even teach me to make dua before enter the toilet. Referring to the one I highlighted in red, I think you are underestimating God. He cares for everything regardless it is a small things or something major for mankind. Again, you need to make more study on attributes of Allah and you will find the wisdom. If you are clear with concept of God then the rest will be very clear for you.
 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
Staff member
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I wrote a reply here giving a *treatment* for the mess brought by *narrow-thinkers*..but I guess either it wasn't good enough for you brothers and sisters..or none of you read it and paid full attention to what is *apparent* in it...

It just breaks my heart to see each of you putting so much effort in clarifying matters..and being so keen on getting the other side to understand even if just *one point* of what you're saying..and then I see that every bit of effort and keenness is ignored insolently! :(

A sincere seeker of truth would be very easy to *pinpoint*

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