Why am I not a Muslim to you?

[lostlilly07]

:salam2:

I recently got into an embarrassing altercation with a " Muslim" because she refuse to give me salaams ( greeting) in a public setting.

I ll try to keep it short but I don't know these people
and when I extended the greeting to these two sisters neither commented and I responded well you can at least say "hi" and one boldly responded you ppl are not Muslim.

 

[lostlilly07]

I hate to add this but these ppl were of eastern/Asian decent and this isn't the first time something like this happen. It's to the point where I don't like giving the greeting to these people..... I feel like I might offend some ppl but I felt offended enough to start this thread.

 

[bmw540i]

:salam2:


I know how you feel but sometimes you get certain people of other faiths who use the salaam in a derogatory way.I have a lot of customers in my business and some of them would walk in and give you a funny smirk and say something like salamalakom,then you will get some saying namaste.It does irratate me but as you know in business the customer is always right.I suppose we will not always win.

 

[Perseveranze]

Asalaamu Alaikum,

It is quite ignorant and those people could be generalizing. And by that I mean, a person may be a white American, and so some ignorant people would generalize and say; they must not be Muslim. And that's why when they say Salaam, they may think they're just mocking them.

 

[strive-may-i]

Assalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmathullaahi wabarakaathu,

Hope you are doing good sister. Here is something for us to reflect upon

Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas: Allah’s Messenger said to Ashaj Abdul-Qasis, “You possess two such qualities as Allah loves. These are clemency and tolerance.” [Muslim]

“Shall I not inform you of a better act than fasting, alms, and prayers? Making peace between one another: enmity and malice tear up heavenly rewards by the roots.” [Tirmidhi, Muslim, Abu-Dawud]

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[strive-may-i]

Asalaamu Alaikum,

It is quite ignorant and those people could be generalizing. And by that I mean, a person may be a white American, and so some ignorant people would generalize and say; they must not be Muslim. And that's why when they say Salaam, they may think they're just mocking them.

:salam2:


You explained it nicely!
Jazakallaahu Khairan

 

[helpinghumanity]

Wa-alaikumus salam wa rahmatullah sister,

This is how I perceive the situation.

You fulfilled your duty by initiating the greeting of **Assalamo alaikum**.

After that it was their obligation to return the greeting in the same or better way. If they didn't fulfilled their obligation then they will be asked about it.

Please learn how to ignore people and don't indulge yourself in altercation. Fulfill your duties and don't expect any turn

:salam2:

I recently got into an embarrassing altercation with a " Muslim" because she refuse to give me salaams ( greeting) in a public setting.

I ll try to keep it short but I don't know these people
and when I extended the greeting to these two sisters neither commented and I responded well you can at least say "hi" and one boldly responded you ppl are not Muslim.

 

[Kakorot]

:salam2:

Maybe they're from a different sect.

 

[lostlilly07]

:salam2:

Ok. I am trying to understand. I know the angels respond when humans refuse to respond but it still bothers me. Ok well in the future, I ll be say to myself maybe they didn't hear me....

 

[IHearIslam]

Assalaamu Alakum warahmatullah wabarakatuh sweet sister

It is ok...some people are just ignorant! I (who is raised Muslim) sometimes get ill treatment from those who're not from where I am from- --I will not name any names and stuff, but some people are sort of racist I guess. It makes me so freaken mad, but I get over it and remember how many NICE Muslim people from the same continent I actually know. Sometimes it is pleasing to look at the positive side <3

Oh if it makes you feel better, think of your TTI family whenever that happens! We spread the salaam like it is wild fire

*hug* Stay strong for the Ummah, one day we'll be UNITED insha'Allah!

 

[esperanza]

salam sister
sorry to hear about this
but sadly muslims do not always act as we expect
i have lived in a muslim country for twenty years,,,married into a muslim family
and yes some people have been wonderful and accpeting
but ihave witnessed some tings never expected from muslims
i had one sister in law,,would not greet me for years...
and id not speak wiht me for long time#
and also behaviour from those sisters iworked wiht
it all used to bother me,,,now ithink why what will igain
they will be questioned on their behaviour

 

[a_stranger]

Dear sister , I am a born muslem, I live in a muslem country, I try to great people whenever I go responding to what our prophet salla Allah alaihi wa sallam taught. Believe me 90 percent or more of my assalamu alaikim remains unanswered . Some times I feel so sad , ........some times I remember that I shall be rewarded by Allah subhahu wa taaala, let them ignore me , Allah will not forget me. Many many muslems are ignorant sorry to say so. May Allah subhanahu wa taaala reward me , you and all.

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

I hate to add this but these ppl were of eastern/Asian decent and this isn't the first time something like this happen. It's to the point where I don't like giving the greeting to these people..... I feel like I might offend some ppl but I felt offended enough to start this thread.

What you said have some basis. I think most Asian (I shall exclude Middle Eastern), are self centric and do not really understand Islamic brotherhood. Many times when I greet with salam, I don't get reply. Often I address as "brother", they do not address me in same way. I think brothers and sisters from the West are better, before I could address they already greet me and call me brother. I always ask my self, what is happening here?

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

:salam2:

Maybe they're from a different sect.

Well, I addressed a middle east decent guy as "brother", he smiled and just called my name. I gave him salam, he did not reply my salam. Then we followed up our friendship via e-mail, again I greeted him with salam and address as "brother", he did not reply in the same manner. Then I realised, he is a shia.

 

[lostlilly07]

What you said have some basis. I think most Asian (I shall exclude Middle Eastern), are self centric and do not really understand Islamic brotherhood. Many times when I greet with salam, I don't get reply. Often I address as "brother", they do not address me in same way. I think brothers and sisters from the West are better, before I could address they already greet me and call me brother. I always ask my self, what is happening here?

Wa alalikum salaam,

You're right, I do remember one time addressing an egyptian muslim as "sister" and she laughed and said, "we are not sisters hahhaha", I never spoke to her again. We had an arabic class together at a university.

 

[ShyHijabi]

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I had a situation like this once. I went to a mosque that was predominantly immigrants from a specific country. I definitely stood out with my skin, eye, and ethnically different appearance. I wear hijab and was wearing an abaya that day. There were numerous clusters of sisters outside the mosque after the prayer and they literally turned their back and ignored me when I salaamed them. It was one of the loneliest and most depressing times for me as a convert.

My family had told me when I converted that I would never truly be accepted by "those people" and that I would reap what I sowed. Unfortunately sometimes my family's words have rung true but it's a good thing I didn't convert for the Muslims, know what I mean? My in-laws also were like this in the beginning and fought long and hard to convince my husband not to marry me. They worry about what the people at the mosque will think when they realize their son married a "white girl." I find this particularly humorous given that their own children (the judgmental hypocrites) dress inappropriately, drink liquor, and have zinah with non-Muslims.

I frankly feel they are compensating for their own failures as Muslims and basically grasping at straws to feel superior to those who are not the stereotypical appearing Muslims.

 

[bmw540i]

:salam2:

I think we are talking about the indopak Muslims.We have some of those in South Africa and yes,i hate to admit this but some of the complaints that we have had is that in a jamaat gathering some women have a no entry group.In that group you will get the rich who thinks that the sun shines only for their group.I suppose they have their heads buried in the sand.They probably think that Islam belongs to the Indians and Pakistanis only.I hope i am wrong .

 

[Mairo]

:salam2:

This is a problem that I have also encountered on many occasions and has troubled me greatly as well. It does cause me to tend to keep to myself and concentrate more on just taking care of myself. Whenever I mention to another person that I am muslim I never know what kind of response I am going to get. Whether that other person is a muslim or non-muslim, the responses are quite diverse. But Alhamdoulilahi, I count myself as very blessed to be among those who are mentioned as the "strangers" in Islam, inshaAllah.

 

[MuslimShadow]

ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAHMATULLAHI WABARAKATUHU.....(May peace mercy and blessings of Allah be with you...

 

[lostlilly07]

ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAHMATULLAHI WABARAKATUHU.....(May peace mercy and blessings of Allah be with you...

Wa alaikum salaam wa rahmutallihi wa barakatahu