what is the truth about Hussain and Yazid?

arzafar

Junior Member
:salam2:

it's the start of the new hijri year and the muharam 'sights and sounds' have begun. I would like to know the authentic and objective account of Hussain ibn Ali and Yazid ibn Muawiya. What actually happened? I cant seem to find anything on this site. Can anyone help me?
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
:salam2:

Please refer to Kamaal El Mekki's lecture series titled 'The Fitnah'. CD 5 and 6 should be relevant.

You can obtain the download links from here.

Wasalaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi
 

Idris16

Junior Member
Just want to say something. We all know the misguided sect that believe the majority of Sahâbas became misguided. I have never heard of them naming their children, Abu Bakr, 'Umar, 'Uthmân, 'Âishah, Hafsa and many others as well. Just show their misguidance so don't let us fall for their misguidance.

I'm referring to rawafidhas and shi'as.
 

khangul

your sister
:salam2:

it's the start of the new hijri year and the muharam 'sights and sounds' have begun. I would like to know the authentic and objective account of Hussain ibn Ali and Yazid ibn Muawiya. What actually happened? I cant seem to find anything on this site. Can anyone help me?

:wasalam:

brother salem would gave you the answer , since i cannt write well but one thing we should know for sure that , that time in koofa the majority were shias .PEACE TV is banned now in PAKISTAN because dr zakir naik said yazid may ALLAH be please with him.And we should also know that who were SHIMR and IBNE ZIAD.
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
:salam2:

I wonder if there is any written article I can read on this material, as I can quickly read through material anywhere, but for videos it becomes slightly difficult to find time.
 

ilyas_eh

Used to be active here!
assalaamu alaykkum,

as brotherinislam suggested, go for the fitnah lecture by kamal el mekki...

its really interesting how he relates the whole chapter of fitnah..

in sha Allah you would finish listening to whole series within short time..

@sis tabassum - the lect. series is available in mp3 format.. in sha Allah you can listen to it on-the-go (if you have mp3 player i.e.)
wa salaam
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
:salam2:

Brothers and Sisters, to learn or be conversant about a historical incident you have to invest the time.

As people following the Sunnah, we should know about matters such as these ie Karbala, Ali & Muawiyyah Radi Allahu Anhum etc etc from authentic sources, so that we can not be indoctrinated by the filth spread by shia every opportunity they get be it on national television or in your mosques and streets.

Wasalaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
:salam2:

That is good advice brother. I shouldn't have said that finding time was difficult. We should make time for these things.
 

khangul

your sister
:salam2:

there was very good site descoveringislam but now it do not exist enymore may be you listen to brother yasir qadhi,s this lecture.


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abdul-aziz

Junior Member
:salam2:

Please refer to Kamaal El Mekki's lecture series titled 'The Fitnah'. CD 5 and 6 should be relevant.

You can obtain the download links from here.

Wasalaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi

:salam2:

I kinda felt he kamal almakki took his information from tariq swaidan. which have some minor errors.

however, it will inform of the history in a way you will understand the complications. and understand it better.

wa Allah ya'lam

:wasalam:
 

sachin4islam

Junior Member
Assalam Alaikum:

what is the truth about Hussain and Yazid?

The truth for we Muslims is Quran and Sahih Hadiths of Muhammad (SAW). Beyond that what to look for?. Certainly issues in vein that divide our Ummah must be eradicated.

Regards.
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
:salam2:

I kinda felt he kamal almakki took his information from tariq swaidan. which have some minor errors.

however, it will inform of the history in a way you will understand the complications. and understand it better.

wa Allah ya'lam

:wasalam:

:wasalam:

I highly doubt that he did. Brother Kamaal has his own teachers and his narration would most likely be from his learnings. Anyhow, I can't say for sure the source of his lecture as he hasn't mentioned it (as far as I can remember) in his series.

Jazaki Allahu Khayran sister khangul for that link.
 

abdul-aziz

Junior Member
:wasalam:

I highly doubt that he did. Brother Kamaal has his own teachers and his narration would most likely be from his learnings. Anyhow, I can't say for sure the source of his lecture as he hasn't mentioned it (as far as I can remember) in his series.

Jazaki Allahu Khayran sister khangul for that link.


:salam2:

see series named "[FONT=&quot]قصص من التاريخ الاسلامي [/FONT]" by tariq swaidan. then you can submit doubt or rejection of thought. The series is in Arabic and was published a while ago.

it could be possibly be both are para quoting the same text used too. but they are awfully close in series of events.



wa Allah ya'lam

:wasalam:
 

islamdonlyway

Junior Member
walikumsalam, i did some reserch and this is what i found, and inshallah source seems reliable and its from a populer islamic site.inshallah this wil benifit.

Our attitude towards Yazeed ibn Mu’aawiyah

I heard of this person Yazeed Ibn Muawiyah. I heard that he once a calipha of the muslims and he was a drunken sadistic person, who was not really a muslim. Is this true? Please tell me his story. Thank you and may allah bless you.


Praise be to Allaah.

His name was Yazeed ibn Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan ibn Harb ibn Umayaah al-Umawi al-Dimashqi.

Al-Dhahabi said: he was the commander of that army during the campaign against Constantinople, among which were people such as Abu Ayyoob al-Ansaari. Yazeed was appointed by his father as his heir, so he took power after his father died in Rajab 60 AH at the age of thirty-three, but his reign lasted for less than four years.

Yazeed is one of those whom we neither curse nor love. There are others like him among the khaleefahs of the two states (Umawi/Umayyad and ‘Abbaasi/Abbasid) and the governors of various regions, indeed there were some among them who were worse than him. But the issue in the case of Yazeed is that he was came to power forty-nine years after the death of the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); it was still close to the time of the Prophet and some of the Sahaabah were still alive such as Ibn ‘Umar who was more entitled to the position than him or his father or his grandfather.

His reign began with the killing of the martyr al-Husayn and it ended with the battle of al-Harrah, so the people hated him and he was not blessed with a long life. There were many revolts against him after al-Husayn, such as the people of Madeenah who revolted for the sake of Allaah, and Ibn al-Zubayr.

(Siyar A’laam al-Nubalaa’, part 4, p. 38)

Shaykh al-Islam described people’s attitudes towards Yazeed ibn Mu’aawiyah, and said:

The people differed concerning Yazeed ibn Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan, splitting into three groups, two extreme and one moderate.

One of the two extremes said that he was a kaafir and a munaafiq, that he strove to kill the grandson of the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to spite the Messenger of Allaah and to take revenge on him, and to avenge his grandfather ‘Utbah, his grandfather’s brother Shaybah and his maternal uncle al-Waleed ibn ‘Utbah and others who were killed by the companions of the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), by ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib and others on the day of Badr and in other battles – and things of that nature. To have such a view is easy for the Raafidis who regard Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan as kaafirs, so it is much easier for them to regard Yazeed as a kaafir.

The second extreme group think that he was a righteous man and a just leader, that he was one of the Sahaabah who were born during the time of the Prophet and were carried and blessed by him. Some of them give him a higher status than Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, and some of them regard him as a prophet. Both views are obviously false to one who has the least common sense and who has any knowledge of the lives and times of the earliest Muslims. This view is not attributable to any of the scholars who are known for following the Sunnah or to any intelligent person who has reason and experience.

The third view is that he was one of the kings of the Muslims, who did good deeds and bad deeds. He was not born until the caliphate of ‘Uthmaan. He was not a kaafir but it was because of him that the killing of al-Husayn happened, and he did what he did to the people of al-Harrah. He was not a Sahaabi, nor was he one of the righteous friends of Allaah. This is the view of most of the people of reason and knowledge and of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah.

Then they divided into three groups, one which cursed him, one which loved him and one which neither cursed him nor loved him. This is what was reported from Imaam Ahmad, and this is the view of the fair-minded among his companions and others among the Muslims. Saalih ibn Ahmad said: I said to my father, some people say that they love Yazeed. He said, O my son, does anyone love Yazeed who believes in Allaah and the Last Day? I said, O my father, why do you not curse him? He said, O my son, when did you ever see your father curse anybody?

Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi said, when he was asked about Yazeed: according to what I have heard he is neither to be cursed nor to be loved. He said, I also heard that our grandfather Abu ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Taymiyah was asked about Yazeed and he said: we do not deny his good qualities or exaggerate about them. This is the fairest opinion.

Majmoo’ Fataawa Shaykh al-Islam, part 4, p. 481-484


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