I guess the question should be in reverse. How does he know that he is doing the right thing ? Is he following the bible or just an inner voice ? If he is following an inner voice then what value is the bible ???
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I guess the question should be in reverse. How does he know that he is doing the right thing ? Is he following the bible or just an inner voice ? If he is following an inner voice then what value is the bible ???
Asalaamun alik ya akhi,
I do really appreciate you effort to find some more convincing response to does that really need to know something from the Qur’an and Hadith, before saying something hazardous based on their affections.
One more thing to all who make confusion between loving non Muslims and respecting them, we as Muslim we are not allowed to love non Muslims, but only respect them. That’s it. Love and respect are two different things!!!
Jazak Allah
Wasalaam
Allah bless all Muslims, Ameen
I do really appreciate you effort to find some more convincing response to does that really need to know something from the Qur’an and Hadith, before saying something hazardous based on their affections.
One more thing to all who make confusion between loving non Muslims and respecting them, we as Muslim we are not allowed to love non Muslims, but only respect them. That’s it. Love and respect are two different things!!!
Jazak Allah
Wasalaam
Allah bless all Muslims, Ameen
My dear Sister, Salmaamun alik,
I would just tell that as a Muslim we are not allowed to give references from any other sources than the Holy Qur'an and Hadith.
Also as I mentioned in my previous post, loving or respecting a non Muslim are two different things. Loving is not allowed, but you can respect them.
Jazak Allah
I would just tell that as a Muslim we are not allowed to give references from any other sources than the Holy Qur'an and Hadith.
Also as I mentioned in my previous post, loving or respecting a non Muslim are two different things. Loving is not allowed, but you can respect them.
Jazak Allah
:ma: sister, I wish that Allah SWT guide you in the best and correct way that he like it. Ameen
wasalaam
wasalaam
Dear sister,
Please don't be afraid from the mankind, just seek refugee from Allah SWT, and I'm sure he will help and protect you from the devil.
The only faire you should have is from the Day of judgement and Allah SWT (the creator of all universes). One last thing for your peace of mind that, A God will never die, so that explains all. There is no God than Allah SWT.
Peace and right path for you my sister.
Please don't be afraid from the mankind, just seek refugee from Allah SWT, and I'm sure he will help and protect you from the devil.
The only faire you should have is from the Day of judgement and Allah SWT (the creator of all universes). One last thing for your peace of mind that, A God will never die, so that explains all. There is no God than Allah SWT.
Peace and right path for you my sister.
blackivy393
Junior Member
both are takin literally and the meaning is what is revealed. the Jews did not support the ministry of Jesus or believe he was the messiah prophesized because 1.) he was saying the mosaic law was no longer needed 2 gurantee salvation 2.) him claiming to be the messiah did not save from the Jews from persecution at this time. 3.) Jesus was saying he was God, muslims might not believe that, but Christians do and Jews dont like him for that because he said he was God.
Salaam,
I did not mean to come across as harsh. Forgive me. I am passionate as I have stated.
One of the most debated questions is there is no evidence in the Bible that Jesus called himself God. There is no single passage that states those words in the Gospel.
A simple correction: you stated earlier that since 70AD there has been a movement to go back to Jerusalem. The Early Christian church headed by Paul made a movement westward. That is the reason the New Testament has the Letters from the different islands. The fragile church was moving towards Rome. Some of the other converts who did not wish to move towards Rome remained in Egypt hence the Coptic Church. This was the first split. The Eastern Orthodox Church and the movement towards Rome, which became the Holy Roman Empire.
I did not mean to come across as harsh. Forgive me. I am passionate as I have stated.
One of the most debated questions is there is no evidence in the Bible that Jesus called himself God. There is no single passage that states those words in the Gospel.
A simple correction: you stated earlier that since 70AD there has been a movement to go back to Jerusalem. The Early Christian church headed by Paul made a movement westward. That is the reason the New Testament has the Letters from the different islands. The fragile church was moving towards Rome. Some of the other converts who did not wish to move towards Rome remained in Egypt hence the Coptic Church. This was the first split. The Eastern Orthodox Church and the movement towards Rome, which became the Holy Roman Empire.
blackivy393
Junior Member
to die in our reality means soul is no longer present in body and will not ceast to exist. God will never cease to exist. but when man dies his human body, will decompose, but his soul passes to the next realm. if God comes to earth as Jesus and dies his physical body dies not his soul. but in this case chrisitian tradition Jesus was resurrected meaning his soul passed to the realm ( its not hell but we'll call it hell) and than 3 days later he came back to earth claimed his body and returned to heaven whole with his body, so this prinicple is not violated
blackivy393
Junior Member
well here is the religious tradition of Purim as practiced by the Jews, not what someone who is not Jewish says Jews do.
The ritual observance of Purim begins with Ta'anit Esther (The Fast of Esther). This minor fast day is held on one of the days preceding Purim, usually 13 Adar. (If the 13th falls on a Friday or Saturday, it is held on the preceding Thursday, in honor of the Sabbath.) It actually commemorates the fasting of the Jewish warriors before their battle on 13 Adar, but it is named for Esther, who also fasted before her important task. {8}
On Purim, all Jews are required to fulfill the four Purim mitzvot:
Two readings of the Megillah (Scroll of Esther) (Mikrah Megillah)
Festive meal (Seudah Purim)
Gifts of food to friends (Mishloach Manot)
Charity to the poor (Matanot l'Evyonim)
charity must be given to at least two poor people on Purim, in an amount at least equal to the value of one inexpensive meal. Each Jew's donation need not be given to the poor directly, but it must be distributed on Purim. Most notably, Purim charity must be given without regard to the merit, desert, or even need of the recipient. On all other days, Jews are required to ensure their donations are used properly, but not on Purim
well i suggest some of you guys maybe check out your neighborhood synagouges and ask Jews what they do for various religious observations and not just watch conspiracy videos about Israel, the west and whatever else. find out from people who is certain religions what they actually do
blackivy393
Junior Member
here are the scriptures from the bible
gift of tongues predicted by Jesus
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name they shall cast
out devils; they shall speak with new tongues” (Mark 16:17)
display of believers speaking in tongues
Acts 2:24
All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit, and they began to speak in other languages as the Spirit enabled them.
It is a mistake to assume that speaking in tongues is an evidence of being filled with the Spirit. All believers are commanded to “be filled with (controlled by) the Spirit” (Ephesians 5:18), but nowhere in Scripture are believers commanded to speak in tongues. A Christian can be under the influence and control of the Holy Spirit and not speak in tongues
blackivy393
Junior Member
well i guess a lot of people i guess think christianity is a polytheism, which is fine; even though no scholar wouldnt catergorize it as that.
as muslims since you worship the same God as us
if you believe we worship 3 God because polythesim is worship of many Gods, which 1 of the 3 do you worship
or if you just believe we worship God in 3 portions, which 1 of the 3 portions do muslim worship???
and sounds like a lot of people who were formerly christian converted without reading the whole bible first than the quran , because of while you dont agree with some of our doctrine , some of you guys seem like you never knew the bible discussed some of these doctrines.....
as muslims since you worship the same God as us
if you believe we worship 3 God because polythesim is worship of many Gods, which 1 of the 3 do you worship
or if you just believe we worship God in 3 portions, which 1 of the 3 portions do muslim worship???
and sounds like a lot of people who were formerly christian converted without reading the whole bible first than the quran , because of while you dont agree with some of our doctrine , some of you guys seem like you never knew the bible discussed some of these doctrines.....
Mairo
Maryama
Wa Aleikum masalaam,
Yes, I do not ever mention any quotes but the Quran and Hadith in my posts, that is what I was trying to explain.
As I am sure you are aware, it is lawful for a Muslim man to marry a believer among the People of the Book - aka Jews or Christians. I would find it hard to believe that a man can be allowed to marry such a woman, and not show her love?
I just thought I would add another Hadith related to the topic we have been discussing here:
Volume 6, Book 60, Number 162:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
A man from the Jews, having been slapped on his face, came to the Prophet and said, "O Muhammad! A man from your companions from the Ansar has slapped me on my face!" The Prophet said, "Call him." When they called him, the Prophet said, "Why did you slap him?" He said, "O Allah's Apostle! While I was passing by the Jews, I heard him saying, 'By Him Who selected Moses above the human beings,' I said, 'Even above Muhammad?' I became furious and slapped him on the face." The Prophet said, "Do not give me superiority over the other prophets, for on the Day of Resurrection the people will become unconscious and I will be the first to regain consciousness. Then I will see Moses holding one of the legs of the Throne. I will not know whether he has come to his senses before me or that the shock he had received at the Mountain, (during his worldly life) was sufficient for him."
Mairo
Maryama
Hi BlackIvy,
Yes, this is true, you will not find Muslims who will put any partner with God, that is not allowed in any way, shape or form in Islam. Allah is the Creator, everything else, including Jesus, is part of his creation.
However, I am glad for your appreciation of Islam, as there are many in the world who have no respect for it whatsoever. May God guide you to what is best. Good luck to you in sorting it all out!
Salaam,
I believe what happened in this topic is I asked for clarification about a statement that Blackivy made. She seemed unclear on the difference between zionism and the Jewish faith. She stated some born again Christians support the movement for Jews to return to the Promised Land. She stated that many give as charity. She further confused the time frame of when Christians started giving or moving to the Holy Lands(?). She was unable to provide theological evidence from any sources as to the need for this movement. I questioned her intent. Afterall, I stated Palestine does not, and Insha"Allah never be given to the Zionists. She does not seem to have an understanding about the politics of creating this unholy state: Israel.
I will not comment any more as there are serious issues that need to be addressed such as helping the people of Palestine.
No man is superior to another. That is one of the beauties of Islam.
I believe what happened in this topic is I asked for clarification about a statement that Blackivy made. She seemed unclear on the difference between zionism and the Jewish faith. She stated some born again Christians support the movement for Jews to return to the Promised Land. She stated that many give as charity. She further confused the time frame of when Christians started giving or moving to the Holy Lands(?). She was unable to provide theological evidence from any sources as to the need for this movement. I questioned her intent. Afterall, I stated Palestine does not, and Insha"Allah never be given to the Zionists. She does not seem to have an understanding about the politics of creating this unholy state: Israel.
I will not comment any more as there are serious issues that need to be addressed such as helping the people of Palestine.
No man is superior to another. That is one of the beauties of Islam.
Mairo
Maryama
Assalaam Aleikum sister,
I appreciate your words and understand that emotions/passion can sometimes get the better of us in certain situations, or certain "catch words" can an immediate overreaction. I hope that love and understanding among our Muslim family will grow and we will continue to learn from each other, inspiring each other on to good words and deeds.
God bless
blackivy393
Junior Member
do you want to me to give you scriptures from the bible talking about return to Jews to the holy land, the favor God has for the Jews, the scriptures saying God blesses who gives charity to the Jews? this is people's religious beliefs not zionism.
what do you consider zionism......
and no im not going to quote what someone else thinks , i can quote directly from the bible what God says about the issue, he is the true source on the palestinian/ Jewish issue.
God has always told us to give to the Jews , why did more people start giving in a certain era.....? a variety of reasons but its always been instated by God
Mairo
Maryama
Salam Mirajmom,
I am still getting used to the forum of online message boards. It seems that it can be easy to be misunderstood.
My impression of BlackIvy is that she is a young girl who is still trying to sort out what she believes. She has stated that she would like to become Muslim, but the only thing holding her back is her believe in the divinity of Jesus. That does not come across to me as someone who is an enemy of Islam.
No man is superior to another. That is one of the beauties of Islam. - agreed
gazkour
Junior Member
Assalamo alikom wa rahmato Allah wa barakato
I think it's not a good idea to tell your friend that this manisfestations are not from God, just like that and more when he just converted.
For me, it took to really understand Islam first to say that. If you want to engage in some discussion about Islam & Christianity, I would strongly recommend the debates of brother Ahmet Deedat or the testimonies of some christian converts like Yusuf Estes and others.
It's hard to explain, but I would say that I had to go through Christianity in order to love Islam more than anything. If probably someone told me when I just became 'new-born' that all that was wrong, I would probably have told them off! Allah knows best.
I'm not saying to give up on your friend though.
I think you have to take it slowly and step by step with your friend, unless is Him who wants to discuss the topic, just then, I'll go for the recommendations I gave you. In that case you could also find all the verses from the Bible refuting things like the divinity of Jesus and the trinity. It is indeed a very long and profound topic so if you could get an 'expert' nearby would be great.
Those topics have also been discussed several times in TTI. The very last one was the thread by DadmanG.
This could also be a good opportunity for you to learn about comparative religion, so you can become also an 'expert' and talk to all your christian friends with confidence! Why not!.......EnshaAllah. I still have to learn tones! I, basically, learnt more about the Bible as a muslim than as a Christian, incredible! May Allah help us all.
In the mean time, if your friend has specific doubts and/or questions, and If I can help, I'll be more than happy to answer, eventhough I don't consider my self as a Bible 'expert'. Actually there are many brothers and sisters here that seem to have handy all the biblical and coranic verses for this topic mashaAllah!
When your friend says that 'his life has been transformed', that's actually a "hard' point to refute. When I became christian, my life changed as well, and I was very happy indeed.
At first, Christianity is presented in a "Hollywood" kind of style: you are saved, you are healed, you can become prosperous(=rich), you are a new creature,you can ask for anything you want and it is going to be given, etc, etc They always seem to take just few very well known verses which sound good or promise many things to you. But they seem to fail in exploring the other not very 'rosie' ones.
It was just after years of seeing many situations in the church that I didn't like and when I read for the first time about Islam, my life and existence made 'click' in every sense, and just then, I understood, that I was 'contented' with Christianity because there was nothing better around.
I hope I'm not disappointing you in any manner. I'll be here to help in any way I can enshaAllah.
May Allah guide us all.
I think it's not a good idea to tell your friend that this manisfestations are not from God, just like that and more when he just converted.
For me, it took to really understand Islam first to say that. If you want to engage in some discussion about Islam & Christianity, I would strongly recommend the debates of brother Ahmet Deedat or the testimonies of some christian converts like Yusuf Estes and others.
It's hard to explain, but I would say that I had to go through Christianity in order to love Islam more than anything. If probably someone told me when I just became 'new-born' that all that was wrong, I would probably have told them off! Allah knows best.
I'm not saying to give up on your friend though.
I think you have to take it slowly and step by step with your friend, unless is Him who wants to discuss the topic, just then, I'll go for the recommendations I gave you. In that case you could also find all the verses from the Bible refuting things like the divinity of Jesus and the trinity. It is indeed a very long and profound topic so if you could get an 'expert' nearby would be great.
Those topics have also been discussed several times in TTI. The very last one was the thread by DadmanG.
This could also be a good opportunity for you to learn about comparative religion, so you can become also an 'expert' and talk to all your christian friends with confidence! Why not!.......EnshaAllah. I still have to learn tones! I, basically, learnt more about the Bible as a muslim than as a Christian, incredible! May Allah help us all.
In the mean time, if your friend has specific doubts and/or questions, and If I can help, I'll be more than happy to answer, eventhough I don't consider my self as a Bible 'expert'. Actually there are many brothers and sisters here that seem to have handy all the biblical and coranic verses for this topic mashaAllah!
When your friend says that 'his life has been transformed', that's actually a "hard' point to refute. When I became christian, my life changed as well, and I was very happy indeed.
At first, Christianity is presented in a "Hollywood" kind of style: you are saved, you are healed, you can become prosperous(=rich), you are a new creature,you can ask for anything you want and it is going to be given, etc, etc They always seem to take just few very well known verses which sound good or promise many things to you. But they seem to fail in exploring the other not very 'rosie' ones.
It was just after years of seeing many situations in the church that I didn't like and when I read for the first time about Islam, my life and existence made 'click' in every sense, and just then, I understood, that I was 'contented' with Christianity because there was nothing better around.
I hope I'm not disappointing you in any manner. I'll be here to help in any way I can enshaAllah.
May Allah guide us all.
Assalamu Alaikum sister Mairo,
Thank you for your response. You wrote the following in post #39:
In post #37, I posted the following:
I don't mean to be rude, but if you had read my posts carefully [in the links I provided], you would have understood my point of view more clearly.
==========================
The main points in your argument are as follows:
1- You wrote that:
So, it seems that you believe that if one does not have a blasphemous belief about God Almighty [such as believing He is a Trinity, believing He was grieved by the wickedness of man, was sorry for creating him and believing the He rested on the seventh and was refreshed] and tries to live a good life and follow Jesus, then that is alright.
Am I correct in summarizing your point of view?
If I was correct in summarizing your view, then I'll have to disagree with you, sister Mairo.
Let us suppose that there is a Christian who believes that God Almighty is absolutely One [not a trinity] and that only He should be worshiped. This Christian also believes in:
- the Last Day and what it entails [i.e., Heaven and Hell],
- all the previous prophets [peace be upon them all]
- believes in the Angels
.....and basically believes in every fundamental pillar of belief except that this Christian does not believe that Muhammad [peace be upon him] was the Messenger of God. Or maybe this Christian does believe that, but he did not act upon that belief and did not revert to Islam.
In this case, sister Mairo, this Christian -if he received the message of Islam in a clear and undistorted way and if he died in that state of disbelief- will enter Hell to abide therein forever.
Please read the following verses of the Qur'an:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 3:85]
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 4:150-151]
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 4:170]
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 48:13]
Two of the above four citations were mentioned in my post 16 on page 2 of the thread "Communicating with kaffir family"
I also posted the following on that post #16:
Source: post # 16 found in the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12847&page=2
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2- You wrote:
Up to the red astrix sign [*] -which I have added- I agree with you. In fact, I don't remember writing anything contrary to that.
The rest of the paragraph I agree with to a certain extent. If you meant that judging a certain individual [Mr. X or Mrs. Y] is up to God Almighty and we should not say that that certain individual will enter Heaven or Hell for sure, then I agree.
However, if you meant that we cannot talk generally about a certain group, then I disagree. There's nothing wrong with saying "Anyone who does not convert to Islam -after receiving the message of Islam in a clear and undistorted way-, [whether he or she is a Jew, a Christian or any other religion] will enter Hell to abide therein forever".
Please read the following, taken from my post #18 found on page 2 of the thread "Communicating with kaffir family":
Source: post #18 found in the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12847&page=2
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3- You wrote:
Please read the following, taken from my post #18 found on page 2 of the thread "Communicating with kaffir family":
Source: post #18 post found in the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12847&page=2
As to how prisoners of war are to be treated in Islam, I have posted evidence that shows that Muslims actually can gain good deeds for feeding the prisoner of war, if they do it for the sake of Allah.
Please read what I wrote in on the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showpost.php?p=79502&postcount=9
Among the phrases you wrote in this last paragraph was, "I do not compromise my beliefs in Islam by being tolerant with those who differ or oppose Islam."
As to being tolerant to non Muslims who do not oppose Islam, I have already stated the above Qur'anic verse which says:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 60:8]
However, please remember the next verse also:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 60:9]
You should also reflect on what Allah has said in another verse of the Qur'an:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 58:22]
I have also posted the following in post #16 on page 2 of the thread "Communicating with kaffir family":
Source: post #16 post found in the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12847&page=2
This is one of the most important matters that Muslims should really strive to learn and understand completely. Muslims have to learn that not loving disbelievers does not mean that their rights should be violated.
Allah the Almighty has taught us what the prophet Abraham [peace be upon him] has said:
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[The translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 60:4 and footnote [2] are from the website of the King Fahd Complex for the Printing of the Holy Qur'an]
Source: http://qurancomplex.org/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=60&l=eng&nAya=1#60_1
At the same time, Allah has also said:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 5:8]
Sheikh Abdur Rahmaan ibn Naasir As-Sa'di [may Allah have mercy on him] has written the following in explaining the above verse [in Arabic]:
Source: http://qurancomplex.org/Quran/tafseer/Tafseer.asp?l=arb&t=saady&nSora=5&nAya=8#5_8
My translation of what he wrote is as follows. I have added the words between square brackets [ ] in order to facilitate a better translation:
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In post 73, you posted the following:
That's an excellent question. I hope I may be able to answer some time in the future.
Regards,
Bluegazer
Wassalamu Alaikum
Thank you for your response. You wrote the following in post #39:
In post #37, I posted the following:
I don't mean to be rude, but if you had read my posts carefully [in the links I provided], you would have understood my point of view more clearly.
==========================
The main points in your argument are as follows:
1- You wrote that:
So, it seems that you believe that if one does not have a blasphemous belief about God Almighty [such as believing He is a Trinity, believing He was grieved by the wickedness of man, was sorry for creating him and believing the He rested on the seventh and was refreshed] and tries to live a good life and follow Jesus, then that is alright.
Am I correct in summarizing your point of view?
If I was correct in summarizing your view, then I'll have to disagree with you, sister Mairo.
Let us suppose that there is a Christian who believes that God Almighty is absolutely One [not a trinity] and that only He should be worshiped. This Christian also believes in:
- the Last Day and what it entails [i.e., Heaven and Hell],
- all the previous prophets [peace be upon them all]
- believes in the Angels
.....and basically believes in every fundamental pillar of belief except that this Christian does not believe that Muhammad [peace be upon him] was the Messenger of God. Or maybe this Christian does believe that, but he did not act upon that belief and did not revert to Islam.
In this case, sister Mairo, this Christian -if he received the message of Islam in a clear and undistorted way and if he died in that state of disbelief- will enter Hell to abide therein forever.
Please read the following verses of the Qur'an:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 3:85]
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 4:150-151]
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 4:170]
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 48:13]
Two of the above four citations were mentioned in my post 16 on page 2 of the thread "Communicating with kaffir family"
I also posted the following on that post #16:
Source: post # 16 found in the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12847&page=2
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2- You wrote:
Up to the red astrix sign [*] -which I have added- I agree with you. In fact, I don't remember writing anything contrary to that.
The rest of the paragraph I agree with to a certain extent. If you meant that judging a certain individual [Mr. X or Mrs. Y] is up to God Almighty and we should not say that that certain individual will enter Heaven or Hell for sure, then I agree.
However, if you meant that we cannot talk generally about a certain group, then I disagree. There's nothing wrong with saying "Anyone who does not convert to Islam -after receiving the message of Islam in a clear and undistorted way-, [whether he or she is a Jew, a Christian or any other religion] will enter Hell to abide therein forever".
Please read the following, taken from my post #18 found on page 2 of the thread "Communicating with kaffir family":
Source: post #18 found in the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12847&page=2
-------------------------------------------------
3- You wrote:
Please read the following, taken from my post #18 found on page 2 of the thread "Communicating with kaffir family":
Source: post #18 post found in the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12847&page=2
As to how prisoners of war are to be treated in Islam, I have posted evidence that shows that Muslims actually can gain good deeds for feeding the prisoner of war, if they do it for the sake of Allah.
Please read what I wrote in on the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showpost.php?p=79502&postcount=9
Among the phrases you wrote in this last paragraph was, "I do not compromise my beliefs in Islam by being tolerant with those who differ or oppose Islam."
As to being tolerant to non Muslims who do not oppose Islam, I have already stated the above Qur'anic verse which says:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 60:8]
However, please remember the next verse also:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 60:9]
You should also reflect on what Allah has said in another verse of the Qur'an:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 58:22]
I have also posted the following in post #16 on page 2 of the thread "Communicating with kaffir family":
Source: post #16 post found in the following link:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12847&page=2
This is one of the most important matters that Muslims should really strive to learn and understand completely. Muslims have to learn that not loving disbelievers does not mean that their rights should be violated.
Allah the Almighty has taught us what the prophet Abraham [peace be upon him] has said:
-----------------------------------------
[The translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 60:4 and footnote [2] are from the website of the King Fahd Complex for the Printing of the Holy Qur'an]
Source: http://qurancomplex.org/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=60&l=eng&nAya=1#60_1
At the same time, Allah has also said:
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 5:8]
Sheikh Abdur Rahmaan ibn Naasir As-Sa'di [may Allah have mercy on him] has written the following in explaining the above verse [in Arabic]:
Source: http://qurancomplex.org/Quran/tafseer/Tafseer.asp?l=arb&t=saady&nSora=5&nAya=8#5_8
My translation of what he wrote is as follows. I have added the words between square brackets [ ] in order to facilitate a better translation:
====================================
In post 73, you posted the following:
That's an excellent question. I hope I may be able to answer some time in the future.
Regards,
Bluegazer
Wassalamu Alaikum