In Search Of Logical Answers?

uniqueskates

Rabbe Zidni Illma
AssalaamuAlaikum to everyone.

I had a conversation with my cousin yesterday and I am basically looking for rational/logical answers/scientific evidences for most of my questions. As I have to give them back to him. So please help me.

1. How did Allah(SWT) create Adam(AS)? I know that HE(SWT) created him out of dust, but was it like HE(SWT) made him out of HIS hands or something? And for what reason did HE(SWT) create him?

2. I would like to know, How did the human population increase on the Earth. I believe Adam(AS) & Hawaa() where sent on the Earth & after that how did the population increase?

3. Would like to know more about Evolution & Islam. Some scientific evidence that negates the Darwin's theory. [An authentic source please]

4. Does Islam have any rulings on photography? If yes, why so?

5. And what does Islam say abnout cloning/genetically made vegetables and all those?

6. This is for my personal answering, - What is the age from which our deeds are noted down?

P.S - Please remember I have to answer a person who does not believe in Islam, so I guess I don't think I can go to him with the Hadith's & Ayats of Quran. But you could still place hadith's & ayats, so that atleast I would benefit from them. InshaAllah. Am sorry if my way of questioning offends anyone, My english is bad. So do forgive my imperfections. InshaAllah will improve.
 

tic_tac_toe

Junior Member
AssalaamuAlaikum to everyone.

I had a conversation with my cousin yesterday and I am basically looking for rational/logical answers/scientific evidences for most of my questions. As I have to give them back to him. So please help me.

1. How did Allah(SWT) create Adam(AS)? I know that HE(SWT) created him out of dust, but was it like HE(SWT) made him out of HIS hands or something? And for what reason did HE(SWT) create him?

2. I would like to know, How did the human population increase on the Earth. I believe Adam(AS) & Hawaa() where sent on the Earth & after that how did the population increase?

3. Would like to know more about Evolution & Islam. Some scientific evidence that negates the Darwin's theory. [An authentic source please]

4. Does Islam have any rulings on photography? If yes, why so?

5. And what does Islam say abnout cloning/genetically made vegetables and all those?

6. This is for my personal answering, - What is the age from which our deeds are noted down?

P.S - Please remember I have to answer a person who does not believe in Islam, so I guess I don't think I can go to him with the Hadith's & Ayats of Quran. But you could still place hadith's & ayats, so that atleast I would benefit from them. InshaAllah. Am sorry if my way of questioning offends anyone, My english is bad. So do forgive my imperfections. InshaAllah will improve.

If no one answers in a few days then I will attempt it.
 

Ayyub

Junior Member
AssalaamuAlaikum to everyone.

I had a conversation with my cousin yesterday and I am basically looking for rational/logical answers/scientific evidences for most of my questions. As I have to give them back to him. So please help me.

1. How did Allah(SWT) create Adam(AS)? I know that HE(SWT) created him out of dust, but was it like HE(SWT) made him out of HIS hands or something? And for what reason did HE(SWT) create him?

2. I would like to know, How did the human population increase on the Earth. I believe Adam(AS) & Hawaa() where sent on the Earth & after that how did the population increase?

3. Would like to know more about Evolution & Islam. Some scientific evidence that negates the Darwin's theory. [An authentic source please]

4. Does Islam have any rulings on photography? If yes, why so?

5. And what does Islam say abnout cloning/genetically made vegetables and all those?

6. This is for my personal answering, - What is the age from which our deeds are noted down?

P.S - Please remember I have to answer a person who does not believe in Islam, so I guess I don't think I can go to him with the Hadith's & Ayats of Quran. But you could still place hadith's & ayats, so that atleast I would benefit from them. InshaAllah. Am sorry if my way of questioning offends anyone, My english is bad. So do forgive my imperfections. InshaAllah will improve.
1 and 3:
The Theory of Evolution
The fifth question of Fatwa no. 5167 :
Q 5: There are some people who claim that man was once an ape and then evolved. Is this correct, and is there any evidence to support this?
A5: This statement is false; the evidence for that is that Allah has clarified in the Qur�an the stages of Adam�s creation, saying (what means): Verily, the likeness of �Is� (Jesus) before All�h is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust
(Part No. 1; Page No. 69)
Then that dust was wetted until it became sticky clay, clinging to the hands; Allah the Exalted says (what means): And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth). Allah also says (what means): Verily, We created them of a sticky clay. Then it turned into altered black mud; Allah the Exalted states (what means): And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud. And when it dried, it turned into clay like that of pottery; Allah the Exalted states (what means): He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery. Allah then fashioned Adam into the form that He willed and then breathed into him the soul which He created for him, Allah the Exalted says (what means): And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "I am going to create a man (Adam) from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud. "So, when I have fashioned him completely and breathed into him (Adam) the soul which I created for him, then fall (you) down prostrating yourselves unto him." These are the stages of Adam�s creation according to the Qur�an. As for the stages of creating Adam�s offspring, Allah the Exalted says (what means): And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth). Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge and lodged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman). Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So Blessed is All�h, the Best of creators.
(Part No. 1; Page No. 70)
As for Adam�s wife, Eve, Allah the Exalted has clarified that He created her from Adam, saying (what means): O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Haww�� (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women
May Allah grant us success. May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions.
The Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta'
Member Member Deputy Chairman Chairman
`Abdullah ibn Qa`ud `Abdullah ibn Ghudayyan `Abdul-Razzaq `Afify `Abdul-`Aziz ibn `Abdullah ibn Baz

2: Adam alayhi assalam and Hawa radhyallahu anha always got twins. A boy and a girl. The boy of the first pair of twins was allowed to marry the girl of the second pair of twins. And vice versa. As long as the girl and the boy are not from the same birth they could marry each other.
Why there are so many different looking humans when we are all Adam alahi assalam descendants? Well there is a hadith that explains this:

imam ahmad has narrated from aboo musa, who said that the prophet ( ) said:

"Allaah has created Adam from a handful (soil) which He had gathered from all over the earth. That is how the children of Adam came according to the (colour and nature of the) earth. There are white among them, as well as red and black, and cross colours. There are those among them who are of bad nature and good nature, soft as well as harsh and in between".

3:
Evolution
Darwinian theory
The first question of Fatwa no. 2872

Q 1: We studied something about the theory of Evolution and all that relates to creation as this forms part of our educational curriculum. The more I read on this subject, the more I become convinced that Allah is the Only One Who created this universe and all that it contains. Nevertheless, I was greatly astonished to come across a book written by a Muslim author approving the theory of Evolution and supporting it by the Qur'an! Moreover, one of my Muslim teachers asked me: "Since Islam forbids a man to marry to his sister; how could brothers and sisters amongst the offspring of Adam and Eve get married to each other?
A: The theory of Evolution which is renowned as the theory of Darwin contradicts the Qur'an, Sunnah (whatever is reported from the Prophet), and Ijma` (consensus of scholars). There are thus proofs from the Qur'an and authentic Sunnah stating that Allah (Exalted be He) created Adam from soil then created Eve from Adam.
regarding the fact that Adam (peace be upon him) married his sons to his daughters, this is something that he did according to the law that Allah commanded him to follow which we do not have any right to argue with. Anyway, as far the Shari`ah (Islamic law) that was sent to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is concerned; Allah makes it Haram (prohibited) for a man to marry his sister along with other well-established categories of women that a man is not allowed to marry. Besides, since Allah
(Part No. 1; Page No. 16)
(Glorified and Exalted be He) says, To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. while mentioning the laws of Tawrah (Torah), Injil (Gospel), and Qur'an; the same applies for Adam (peace be upon him) i.e. he had a specific law that he followed.
May Allah grant us success. May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions.
The Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta'
Member Member Deputy Chairman Chairman
`Abdullah ibn Qa`ud `Abdullah ibn Ghudayyan `Abdul-Razzaq `Afify `Abdul-`Aziz ibn `Abdullah ibn Baz

Dr. Robert Milikan who is a Nobel Prize winner and renowned evolutionist said:
"The pathetic thing is that we have scientists who are trying to prove evolution, which no scientist can ever prove."

Norman Macbeth, a Harvard-trained lawyer, has made the study of Darwinian theory his avocation for many years:
Unfortunately, in the field of evolution most explanations are not good. As a matter of fact, they hardly qualify as explanations at all; they are suggestions, hunches, pipe dreams, hardly worthy of being called hypotheses.

Dr. Nils Heribert-Nilsson, is a Swedish geneticist and Professor of Botany at the University of Lund in Sweden:
My attempts to demonstrate evolution by an experiment carried on for more than 40 years have completely failed. At least I should hardly be accused of having started from any preconceived anti-evolutionary standpoint.

4: Read this there you can learn what is permissible and not about photographs.
http://alifta.com/Fatawa/FatawaChapters.aspx?View=Tree&NodeID=400&PageNo=1&BookID=7

5: Do you mean cloning humans??

Wa'alaikoum assalam
 

uniqueskates

Rabbe Zidni Illma
If no one answers in a few days then I will attempt it.

InshaAllah. I'll be waiting for your response brother. :)

2: Adam alayhi assalam and Hawa radhyallahu anha always got twins. A boy and a girl. The boy of the first pair of twins was allowed to marry the girl of the second pair of twins. And vice versa. As long as the girl and the boy are not from the same birth they could marry each other.
Why there are so many different looking humans when we are all Adam alahi assalam descendants? Well there is a hadith that explains this:


5: Do you mean cloning humans??

Yes brother I do mean cloning of humans.

A few more questions -

For the 1. - How was Eve created from Adam?
For the 2. - I kind of didn't understand it clearly? Would you help me out here please.
The twins were born over a period of 9 months like it happens now?
Wouldn't they be marrying their own brothers & sisters?
And the hadith you posted - How would the color of twins differ? For example, If a mother is white & a father black - The possible color of child[I can think of is white, wheatish, black or a mix of both black & white] But how red & other colors? Am sorry brother. I really didn't understand much out of the hadith. Please help me.

For the fatwa on photography. JazakAllah Khair :)


I've just had a word with my stepdad and he was disgusted with these "evidences". He just said to me that if this was written in a university essay by a student they would be disciplined for academic dishonesty and for not conducting proper research.

AssalaamuAlaikum brother.
MashaAllah your father seems to be very knowledgable. I don't even know the "B" of BIOLOGY!! If you could ask him & please explain me the evolution part? I would be grateful to both of you. Alhamdulilah. I would like to know both about Evolution of Species as well as Evolution of Humans from Apes?

And Brother Ayyub did whatever he could brother. So don't be hard on him. Humans do err & It's divine to forgive. :)

Peace.
 

uniqueskates

Rabbe Zidni Illma

JazakAllah Khair bhai.

What does "hadd punishment" mean?
And my question related to it are

1. What if a kid below the age of puberty commits suicide? Does the hadith - It was narrated from Thaabit ibn al-Dahhaak (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever kills himself with something in this world will be punished with it on the Day of Resurrection.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5700; Muslim, 110. Apply here also?

2. What happens to a kid on the Judgement Day if the kid dies before reaching the age of puberty?
 

Itqan Ullah

Time is Running!!
JazakAllah Khair bhai.

Wai yyakum.

What does "hadd punishment" mean?
Capital punishment.


1. What if a kid below the age of puberty commits suicide? Does the hadith - It was narrated from Thaabit ibn al-Dahhaak (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever kills himself with something in this world will be punished with it on the Day of Resurrection.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5700; Muslim, 110. Apply here also?
No it doesn't, please read the conclusion:

Based on that, there is no punishment in the Hereafter for a child if he does something before the age of puberty, which is attained when one of the signs mentioned above appears.

2. What happens to a kid on the Judgement Day if the kid dies before reaching the age of puberty?
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/118103


& here's a nice book: http://www.islamhouse.com/p/334316
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
My goodness, are you serious?

Human evolution involves microevolution and the survival of the fittest!

By the way, humans have not evolved from apes; humans are apes! Humans are one of the four great apes. Our genetic differences are so tiny that studies have shown that we can mistake ape odours (e.g. sweat) for being human. We share 98.8% of our DNA with apes, and bear in mind that it's only 0.01% of our DNA that makes us different from each other. So there is a 0.01% difference between us.

Apes and humans evolved from the same common ancestor - a transitional form - which no longer exists but has been found in the fossil record. Contrary to popular myth, there are no gaps in the human fossil record. But even if there were, this would not count as evidence against evolution because it can be proven in so many different ways.

There is no dispute that humans haven't evolved from apes. Babies are sometimes born with tales! Our ancestors' ape DNA lies dormant within our own! These are not simply "accidents" because if the information wasn't within our DNA then that tale couldn't exist. For example, the reason we don't have naturally orange eyes or green hair is because that information is not within our DNA; though it could evolve to include it.

To say that humans haven't evolved is ignorant.

And by the way, there is no conflict with Islam, because cosmology has demonstrated for certain that we are all made of stardust - and what does it say in the Quran? - that Allah (swt) created man from the dust. That stardust was the building blocks of life, which evolved as Allah (swt) willed. There is no contradiction between evolution being factually true and the Quran and muslims are just going to have to get used to it! Teaching ignorance to your kids only disadvantages them. You wouldn't teach them that the Earth was a triangle would you? Because to do that is to lie to them and to tell them something which will damage them for the rest of your life.

So go to the library and read reliable scientific books on the subject. You might just learn something!


aslam o alaikum

woah bro wat are you saying....

thats not right, human didn't come from apes maybe i misunderstood you before.

and bro first of all, you are wrong about our DNA all this , i have studied this too the reason they say we are close to apes if i remember correctly they took the gene of a snRNA , it wasn't DNA to begin with, and with that in mind we share DNA with every living things, the way and THIS IS A THEORY, the scientist are reconciling to the fact is that we have a common ancestor and we must come from the same thing, now islam doesn't say anything about other creations coming from one common ancestor but HUMAN are totally different. and i know wat they tell you in evolution class, humans growing with tails, and our face looking like beaks, Fine i give you that but that doesn't mean we are evolving from apes or other being. It could also be due to adaptation of our environment, in SIMPLE thats the way Allah (swt) wanted it to happen. Another thing is that Allah (swt) has created us all living thing from water so we are bound to share DNA

The Quran describes that Allah "made from water every living thing" (21:30)
"Allah has created every animal from water. Of them are some that creep on their bellies, some that walk on two legs, and some that walk on four. Allah creates what He wills, for truly Allah has power over all things" (24:45).
And you know it urself too, that the genus homo ... if you see we humans have evolved as well, but we might have looked a little different physically which u have to admit are logical environmental adaptation as well & also adaptation to like vegetation, cause we started agriculture introduced diff food group etc, we see HUMAN always stand out cause of their intellect, Human brains are much larger than ape brains, The hyoid bone in the throat--allows us to speak, i cant find the verse but Allah (swt) created man to govern the things around us so u can see it, just separating due to intellect is a huge thing.
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/34508/evolution

There are people who say that long ago man was a monkey and he evolved. Is this true? Is there any evidence?.

Praise be to Allaah.
This view is not correct, and the evidence for that is that Allaah has described in the Qur’aan the stages of the creation of Adam. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ — and he was”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]

This dust was moistened until it became sticky mud or clay that stuck to the hands. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth)”

[al-Mu’minoon 23:12]

“Verily, We created them of a sticky clay”

[al-Saaffaat 37:12]

Then it became dried (sounding) clay of altered mud. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud”
[al-Hijr 15:26]

Then when it dried it became sounding clay like the clay of pottery. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery”

[al-Rahmaan 55:14]

Then Allaah moulded it into the form that He wanted and breathed into him (his) soul created by Him. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(Remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘Truly, I am going to create man from clay’.

So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him”

[Saad 38:71-72]

These are the stages through which the creation of Adam passed according to the Qur’aan. As for the stages of creation which the progeny of Adam pass through, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth).

Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge and lodged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman).

Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So Blessed is Allaah, the Best of creators”
[al-Mu’minoon 23:12-14]

With regard to the wife of Adam – Hawwa’ (Eve) – Allaah tells us that He created her from him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women”

[al-Nisa’ 4:1]


From Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/31.
 

islamerica

1 Ummah under God
You can quote the Quran as much as you like. It is not science. Science is perfectly clear on the matter.

Humans have evolved from a common ancestor to apes. We have not evolved from apes directly. That's why apes still exist and our common ancestor doesn't. This is all within the fossil record and it's recorded in our DNA.

Can you also provide me with the details of what biological science PhD that person at Islam Q&A has please? I'd like to know the science subject, the university and the date of qualifying. If he cannot produce a PhD in science from a credible institution then how dare he say "it is not correct".

I will repeat myself one more time - my stepfather has a BSc, MSc and PhD in the biological sciences. He lectures at a leading university in the subject - and evolution is true. It is outrageous that someone is claiming science isn't correct when they have no science qualifications!!!

Humans have evolved. Deny it as much as you like......it doesn't change the facts.

Either you are a non-muslim troll or a muslim convert who lacks both knowledge and belief and has not fully submitted to Islam.

We quote the Quran because it is the word of God and the truth. Science is made up guesses that change each time humans figure out they were WRONG.

God says He created humans. To deny that and claim you came from a monkey is disbelief.

Person need PhDs to know that much, even an illiterate farmer who believes in creation is more educated then your Ph.Ds who got papers from universities teaching lies.

You believe whatever you want, we are Muslims. We believe. “He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery” [al-Rahmaan 55:14]
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
You can quote the Quran as much as you like. It is not science. Science is perfectly clear on the matter.

Humans have been born with tails. It's a fact. Check it - you have the internet - so it's easy enough. It's a recognised medical condition. The DNA from tails is within our DNA.

Never has any teacher of evolution said that our noses were once beaks. They were not. This is evidence enough for me that you do not understand the basics of evolution.

It is true that we share DNA with all living things - and that is because we are all related to each other - every form of life on this planet, whether plants, insects, birds, fish, animals or humans, have evolved from exactly the same thing. That "thing" is a single-celled pre-Cambrian organism which lived in the sea.

Initially, the changes which occurred to these cells would have been very small (therefore microevolution). However, these microevolutions occur again, and again, and again. Bacteria gets through two generations in just 24 hours. It takes humans around 50 years to do the same. Bacteria evolving at that rate means that changes occur very, very quickly. All these microevolutions add up over time - into macroevolution! That's why the process of evolution takes millions to billions of years depending on what exactly is happening.

Humans have evolved from a common ancestor to apes. We have not evolved from apes directly. That's why apes still exist and our common ancestor doesn't. This is all within the fossil record and it's recorded in our DNA.

By the way, please don't repeat the nonsense that evolution "is just a theory". A scientific theory means something different to the general use of the term. I have news for you on that point - gravity "is just a theory" and electricity "is just a theory". They are both scientific "theories". But do you deny them? No.

Science isn't arrogant. Everything in science is subject to change once new evidence comes to light. That's the way science works. Even something as certain as gravity is a theory, because it could change, even though it is so unlikely it seems ridiculous to say it. I suggest you look up the scientific concept of "a theory". In science a theory must be supported by tried and tested science. It's called "the scientific method".

Can you also provide me with the details of what biological science PhD that person at Islam Q&A has please? I'd like to know the science subject, the university and the date of qualifying. If he cannot produce a PhD in science from a credible institution then how dare he say "it is not correct".

I will repeat myself one more time - my stepfather has a BSc, MSc and PhD in the biological sciences. He lectures at a leading university in the subject - and evolution is true. It is outrageous that someone is claiming science isn't correct when they have no science qualifications!!!

Humans have evolved. Deny it as much as you like......it doesn't change the facts.

aslam o aliakum

bro im not denying humans have evolved they probably have but within the genus homo, we haven't evolved from apes or orangutan. It is a theory i did part of my honor specialization in 2nd year in evolution, wat you are saying is exactly wat they feed you, and i do have a science qualification thats why im speaking on this matter. and i already told u i dont deny that when humans are embryologically develop we have similarity
and about the tail 'the coccyx' is part of a our vetebrae it serves a purpose for us, it all depend how you define a tail, i dont see us wagging it anywhere.

And its still are theory and will remain one cause whatever evidence anyone gives they cant explain the evolution of intelligence ... and stop defining terms to me i know what micro and macro evolution is. i told u i dont have problem with anything wat Allah (swt) didn't make mention in the quran but Allah (swt) OUR CREATOR told us how he created mankind.
and ur step dad credentials are impressive still the word of Allah (swt) is the word, thats wat matter, the one who created us knows us better than we even know ourselves.
also, i mention before, the genetic compatibility is based on a RNA i cant remember the specific unit i think it was small rRna, but when done with other thing the difference between human and chimp is more
also there have been studies done showing 95% not 98.5% as suggested
http://www.caltech.edu/content/huma...-compatibility-not-985-percent-research-shows

and u should read this

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/11/skipping_over_f066381.html

also, if u have studied evolution it tells u there are two strong theories (when i studied ) multiregional hypothesis , and out of africa THEORY , suggesting where humans came from and they got proof for suspecting both of them , now if they got genetic and fossil evidence for both, then which one you say are the real humans??

anywayz i dont want this to drag on, i just want to say the word of God takes precedence over everything, and in science it takes thousands of experiment to prove something but only one to disapprove it so it can take a turn anytime. also, you have to understand the point of the scientist who are trying to built a phylogenetic tree with a common ancestor they have to come up with things to favor otherwise everything falls apart.
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
Either you are a non-muslim troll or a muslim convert who lacks both knowledge and belief and has not fully submitted to Islam.

We quote the Quran because it is the word of God and the truth. Science is made up guesses that change each time humans figure out they were WRONG.

God says He created humans. To deny that and claim you came from a monkey is disbelief.

Person need PhDs to know that much, even an illiterate farmer who believes in creation is more educated then your Ph.Ds who got papers from universities teaching lies.

You believe whatever you want, we are Muslims. We believe. “He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery” [al-Rahmaan 55:14]

aslam o alaikum

I agree

Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? [21:30 ]

if a person cant believe the existence of his lord who created him and who he will be returning to what use is the other knowledge to him, and even when ALlah (swt) shows him the beauty of his creation around him thru everything SubhanAllah
 

islamerica

1 Ummah under God
You must be someone very special who is a member on other forums and have a youtube and have family members running around with Ph.Ds. How silly of me that i dare talk to an ignorant fool like you like that.

I don't disregard science. I disregard lunatics that think they came from monkeys.

When the Muslim world was an Islamic world (meaning they followed Islam properly), they were in the Islamic Golden age. Medicine, technologies, medical procedures you talk about were all advances made by them. The advancement modern world has today is because of the Muslims. Visit http://www.1001inventions.com/1001inventions and look up HP CEO Fiona and islamic civilization to better educate yourself. The Muslim world is in the state it is today because Muslims have stepped away from following Islam, which has led to corruption and the state they are in. They are in the state they are today is also because of centuries of colonization and slavery by the western regimes followed by puppet government installments and support and backing of dictators who benefit from keeping the public uneducated. And yet still Muslims have strived and made may advancements, but you wouldn't know that because the western media would never show that on tv.


Here's a short list for this century.


Anousheh Ansari (Persian: born 12 September 1966) is the Iranian-American co-founder and chairman of Prodea Systems, Inc and a spaceflight participant with the Russian space program. The Ansari family is also the title sponsor of the Ansari X PRIZE. The Ansari X PRIZE was a space competition in which the X PRIZE Foundation offered a US$10,000,000 prize for the first non-government organization to launch a reusable manned spacecraft into space twice within two weeks. On September 18, 2006, a few days after her 40th birthday, she became the first female Muslim and first Iranian in space. Ansari is the fourth overall self-funded space tourist, and the first self-funded woman to fly to the International Space Station.

Prof. Dr. Salimuzzaman Siddiqui (1897-1994) was a leading Pakistani scientist in natural products chemistry, an eminent literary personality, a painter, and a great connoisseur of music.He is the pioneer in extracting chemical compunds from the Neem (Azadirachta indica) and Rauwolfia, and is also known for isolating novel chemical compunds from various other flora in the Subcontinent. As the director of H.E.J. Research Institute of Chemistry, he carried out extensive research with a team of scientists on pharmacology of various plants to extract a number of chemical substances of medicinal importance.

Ahmed Hassan Zewail (Arabic) (born February 26, 1946 in Damanhur, Egypt) is an Egyptian American scientist, and the winner of the 1999 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his work on femtochemistry.

Ali Eftekhari (born August 29, 1979 in Tehran, Iran) is a professor of chemistry and director of Avicenna Institute of Technology, Berkeley, California.He is one of the founders of Electrochemical Nanotechnology, and Editor of a leading book entitled Nanostructured Materials in Electrochemistry.

Jawed Karim (Bengali) is a co-founder of the popular video sharing website YouTube.

Pierre M. Omidyar (Persian: born June 21, 1967) is a French-born Iranian-American entrepreneur and philanthropist/economist, and the founder/chairman of the eBay auction site.

Samuel Rahbar (born in 1929 in Hamedan, Iran) is an Iranian scientist who discovered HbA1C, a form of hemoglobin used primarily to identify plasma glucose concentration over time.

Abdul Salam (January 29, 1926 at Santokdas, Sahiwal[1] in Punjab – November 21, 1996 in Oxford, England) was a Pakistani theoretical physicist who received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1979 for his work in Electro-Weak Theory which is the mathematical and conceptual synthesis of the Electromagnetic and Weak interactions, the latest stage in the effort to provide a unified description of the four fundamental forces of nature.

Fazlur Rahman Khan (Bengali: Fozlur Rôhman Khan) (April 3, 1929 - March 27, 1982), born in Dhaka, East Pakistan (now Bangladesh), was a Bangladeshi American structural engineer. He is regarded as the "Einstein of structural engineering" and considered "the greatest architectural engineer of the second half of the 20th century" for his constructions of the Sears Tower and John Hancock Center, and for his designs of structural systems that remain fundamental to all high-rise skyscrapers.

Mehran Kardar is a prominent Iranian born physicist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He is particularly known for the KPZ equation in theoretical physics, which has been named after him.

Dr. Akhtar Hameed Khan (1914-1999) was a development activist and social scientist credited for pioneering microcredit and microfinance initiatives, farmers' cooperatives, and rural training programmes in the developing world. He is particularly known for his leading role in the establishment of a comprehensive project for rural development, Comilla Model (1959) that earned him Magsaysay Award from Philippines and honorary Doctorate of Law by Michigan State University. In 1980s he founded a bottom up community development initiative of Orangi Pilot Project in Karachi slums. He received wide international recognition and highest honours in Pakistan for these projects and a number of programs that were part of these projects, from microcredit to self-financed and from housing provision to family planning.

Mahbub ul Haq (February 22, 1934 - July 16, 1998) was an influential and world renowned Pakistani economist. One of the founders of human development theory (and a personal friend of Amartya Sen, whom he met while studying at Cambridge), together with Amartya Sen he created the Human Development Index, which came to be one of the most influential indices and has been used since 1990 by the United Nations Development Programme


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists


I could go on but I think you get the point.

As for the ignorant mindset, no one is more ignorant or arrogrant then the one who denies the power of Allah, who makes up their own fairytales and believes in them, carrying pieces of paper thinking they are qualified to talk about stuff they are utterly ignorant of.

Report to the mods all you want, i don't think standing up for Islam and pointing the ignorance of these "educated" descendents of monkeys is against the forum rules.
 

kiana

Junior Member
Whoever reads a letter from the Book of Allah, he will have a reward. And that reward will be multiplied by ten. I am not saying that “Alif, Laam, Meem” is a letter, rather I am saying that “Alif” is a letter, “laam” is a letter and “meem” is a letter.” So increase your recitation of the Qur’an to gain these merits, and to gain the following merit as well.


what this mean?.
 

kiana

Junior Member
If you think that, perhaps you'd care to explain to me why the Islamic world has such poor healthcare? What medicines, technologies, or medical procedures have been created in the Islamic world in the last 10 years? or the last 50?.

asalam alaykam, brother muslims were #1 in medicine and science,but now west countries steal our resources and forbid us from doing research because they want us to buy from them.
 

islamerica

1 Ummah under God
Whoever reads a letter from the Book of Allah, he will have a reward. And that reward will be multiplied by ten. I am not saying that “Alif, Laam, Meem” is a letter, rather I am saying that “Alif” is a letter, “laam” is a letter and “meem” is a letter.” So increase your recitation of the Qur’an to gain these merits, and to gain the following merit as well.


what this mean?.


There are ten rewards for each letter you recite from the Qur’an. It's like you get 10 deeds for each letter you say, so imagine the number of deeds you get for reciting a whole word, sentence, paragraph, page or the whole quran?
 

xAllahKnowsBestx

Junior Member
Assalamu 'alaykum.

Brother Scotty, what do you think about this verse then? How do you reconcile your belief in evolution with this? I'm just curious by the way.

“He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery”

[al-Rahmaan 55:14]
 
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