Anyone from Bahrain?/ Unrest in Bahrain

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    Iran backed Al Alam TV commits a crime as heinous as the crime committed by Ahmed Al Rmaisi (killed police officer)'s murderer by showing the video of the crime and reporting he was a protester killed by Bahraini police. I can't find words to describe my disgust.
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    ^ Seriously, this conspiracy garbage is bad for your health. There are videos with higher quality resolution within the hospitals that show the extent of the damage. The patients in there have real damage done to them. Or do you have a conspiracy theory for that as well?

    EDIT: I have to point out how stupid this youtube video is. The camera goes past the face of a young adolescent for a split second, where the video is paused and the a comment is made, "He doesn't look too worried". How ridiculously moronic is that?! It stopped over his face for only a split second! And then it get's dumber with the question, and I'm paraphrasing, "doesn't the distribution of the blood look odd?". No. No, it doesn't look odd at all. The video is full of stupid questions that don't even deserve answers. Fortunately, most of the people on this planet aren't that stupid.

    The video also throws out words like "hollywood", but they have absolutely no proof. I doubt they know anything about how video-editting works. A video that will only fool the fools. Real news is being shown by reliable news sources. Real news can be verified.
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    What is Going on in Bahrain is not a Popular Revolution, but a Sectarian one, Says Al Qaradawi
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    Assalamu`alaykum

    Akhee Ahsen our Masaajids are being protected now? I know they had been attacked by the cowards and people of the Masjid attacked.
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    Sorry to say this but don´t ever forget that "those shias" are humans too and they have to have same rights in country they live than "those sunnis".

    If they haven´t, I support they revolution. This is not opinion of religion but humanity.
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    salam aliakum

    what is the difference: if the kuffars take over or the shiatties take over?
    nothing......

    it is just the shiatties want to take over by the name of protest.

    i think we should always be careful, in every step and stop ourself before coming to a conclusion, and of course not to believe in any int. media

    as shia's are human, kuffars are also human, for that we can't leave our power to their hand.

    they have drew some plan to draw sympathy for them, we shouldn't fall into that.

    wa-llahu a'lam

    wa alaikum salam
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    I don't know. It might be 67% popular. That's the majority. You mean, it's not popular to those outside Bahrain, or 33% of the population within it?

    Right on sister harb. It's a matter of humanity. You know, people on these forums pointed out Iran's hypocrisy in praising the Egyptian revolution, but cracking down on their own protestors. And those people were right. But now, I can see hypcrosisy certain members (no names mentioned) that praised Egypt, called Iran hypocrities, and are doing the same thing themselves with regards to Bahrain, JUST because the sectarian dynamics are different.

    I think the Egyptian revoultion was good. If the people of Iran want freedom, I think that's good. And my view remains the same for the people of Bahrain. Justice and liberty for all.

    Lastly, Bahrain has had nightclubs and prostitutes from Russia, South East Asia and the Subcontinent that have been operating for a long time. As well as exploiting young Iraqi girls that fled Iraq after the 2003 war. There are plenty of reliable and verified news reports of this. Bahrain allows the USA 5th fleet to operate there, and that gives the Americans plenty of leverage in the Middle East. So in my opinion, ANY regime change from the current monarchy will be better, as it is hardly Islamic. Unless you're happy that Bahrain allows alcohol, sex and prositution to run freely in their country.

    What's the difference: If the kuffars, shias or munafiqs are in charge? Munafiqs are the worst. The lowest of the low.

    Sheikh Abdullah (Palestinian-Jordanian) from Brisbane, Australia said it really well at an Islamic open day last year. "It's much better to live under a just ruler who is non-Muslim, than an unjust ruler who is "Muslim". Australia is better than Bahrain in so many ways. I'm glad I'm a Muslim living here and not in that country with it's current leaders. You won't find Muslims here who will force Iraqi teenagers to work in nightclubs for rich Saudi and Kuwaiti tourists. Or treat Muslim workers from Asia like dirt. And if you do find it, you can count on the law to take care of it.

    Assalam alaikum.
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    salam alaikum

    if everybody like us feel proud to be in another land, what will happen to our lands?
    subhan Allah

    we can't replace munafiq leaders with kuffar or shia'.

    we all know Gaddafi, how is he, but if now UN say, that they will attack Libya, can we support UN to attack our lands?

    Sheikh Abdullah (Palestinian-Jordanian) from Brisbane, Australia said it really well at an Islamic open day last year. "It's much better to live under a just ruler who is non-Muslim, than an unjust ruler who is "Muslim". sorry but I think there is no place for personal opinion in Islam.


    and what humanity you are talking about?
    what about the other inhuman things happening?

    subhan Allah, this is something happening like my country, when a hindu right is violated, like for a personal case, not even targeting them, it is all over the paper: minority got kicked,
    what about our people, majority, getting everytime kept away from their rights.

    can we even trust kuffar?
    CAN WE, by any chance?

    wa-llahu a'lam

    wassalam
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    Assalam alaikum.

    I chose my words carefully. I said given the option of this country or that, I said I'm "glad" to be here. Big difference between being glad and being proud. And every Muslim should not feel that way. Especially those people that were not born here or are not citizens of this country, now that would be silly.

    We can't support corruption either. So as an outsider, I hope anyone commiting murder is held accountable. Whether it's protestors killing innocent workers, or the police/army murdering the protestors.
    Murder = haram.

    Well, he is a Sheikh. He has studied Islam for over 15 years. And you're calling it a "personal opinion".

    Well, what about the other inhuman things happening? Please make a thread about it to raise awareness. Inhumanity in Bahrain doesn't mean that other inhumane things are not worth looking at, if they occuring in Bangladesh. And similarly, if they are occuring in Asia, it doesn't mean that we should ignore what's happening here.

    Assalam alaikum.
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    Gah again prostitution...
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    Lol. Sorry then.

    But, it's an issue in that country and if a newer and more just government can take over the country, it's a big win for Muslims and Islamic values.
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    I don't deny what your saying its there and in every country but we can speak when the time comes.

    Yes please make Du'aa that the rulers/governments become correct and righteous as Imam Ahmed RahimaUllah did inspite of being oppressed & imprisoned by the tyrant of his time
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    salam alaikum

    brother, it was not directed only at you, but as general, but the matter is we think like that, really!


    in rulings, which are situated, can we replace it with sheikh's opinion?
    not by any chance, we can take a kuffar leader, so if we can't, then from where the option of choosing comes?

    well, I know born westerns, reverted and dont want to live in non-muslim country, ruling, he feels like he is muslim, and he doesn't feel any other type of feeling for the muslim lands, he feels like his own land.


    anyways, we are not here to argue or divide, but of course, just relying on the int. media we can't support any movement.

    what about the UN for example, even if they outwardly doing a lot work, to show ppl and under that scene they are the responsible killer of innocent muslims.

    we should try to mark their plot, kuffars are united but as we can see, we are not

    may Allah help us to be united

    and Allah azza wa jal know the best

    wa alaikum salam
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    Salaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi,

    I would like to remind fellow TTI members to please conduct their discourse on this topic in a more cordial manner.

    Though we may have differing opinions on the current crisis unfolding in Bahrain, we should not castigate other TTI members for posting news stories/information that contradicts our opinions or differs with our stance on this crisis.

    Any future posts that infringe the above will be moderated. We will also not tolerate any heated debates that are caused due to differing political stances/views. TTI is a place for learning Islam and sharing information with regards to it and *not* politics. Please keep that in mind InshaAllah.

    Finally, the threads can be updated with news coming from different sources, be it Al Jazeera, Bahrain Tv etc offering differing and contradicting news stories.

    I hope for your cooperation with regards to the above. JazakumAllahu Khayran.

    Wasalaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi
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    @AbuTalib I have had confirmed reports saying that some sunni mosques were attacked by the shias.People are still afraid to come out of their houses.Shias have declared some kind of jihad against the sunni people in bahrain.They can never live peacefully.



    @sister-harb I agree with you.Shias are human too and we can't kill someone who doesn't threatens us,our family and property.But these are the opposite.As you know there are many nationalities living in bahrain but only the shias have problems with every one.From time to time they come out with some religious justification to create chaos in this country.That's why no one likes them.Following this unrest many shias have been fired from govt and private jobs because people no longer trust them.


    @dna1987 Regime change will not end prostitution.If Allah forbid shias come into power then we might see many versions of "Mutaa" in bahrain which already is accepted to be normal by shias in bahrain.Mutaa happens a lot here in the shia community.But again these are daily life issues which have nothing to do with what's going on now.
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    Iranian Basij forces attack Saudi Consulate in town of Mashhad in northern Iran.
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    Al-Wala-Al-Bara!!!
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    The Bahrain’s uprising unlike the other revolutions by the other Arab countries is a sectarian one, and does not represent the demands of Bahrainis as one nation, the influential Muslim scholars Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi said.

    Al-Qaradawi, who is the president of the World Federation of Muslim Scholars, was vocal in amassing Egyptians against the ousted Egypt President Husni Mubarak, and egged on other revolutions that took place or are taking place elsewhere in the Arab World, but kept quiet for Bahrain.

    “There is no people’s revolution in Bahrain but a sectarian one,” al-Qaradawi said, “what is happening is not like what has happened in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya, but it is the empowerment of some factions via foreign forces on others; thereby it does not include the demands of all of the Bahraini people.”

    According to al-Qaradawi, the imposition of one’s faction’s will power for its sole interest has snowballed events in the Gulf country. He said that when Sunni Bahrainis saw the protests by the Shiites, around 450 thousands went on the streets to demonstrate for their own set of demands.

    “The other Arab revolutions, with a common denominator of the oppressed against the oppressor, the Bahraini one is a sectarian, with Shiites against Sunnis,” he said, adding “in Egypt the revolution was inclusive of all Egyptians with all of their different backgrounds, Muslims, Christians, old, young, secular, religious, and the same can be said for Tunisians, Yemenis, and Libyans.”

    Meanwhile, Qaradawi said that he is not against Shiites, but he is against zealots, and against divisiveness and the empowering of one faction against another.

    He also described the protests by the Shiites as not so ‘peaceful’. He said that “the Shiites attacked Sunnis, and took over their mosques, and used weapons just like the hooligans we saw in Yemen and Egypt.”

    “For this reason I did not address the Bahraini revolution, because I could not find myself free, and I don’t have the enough information on what is happening.”

    He also urged ‘rationales’ from all sides to open a dialogue and set their differences, and he praised the Bahraini King’s Hamad ibn Isa Al Khalifa initiative for dialogue with the opposition as “good”.

    The prominent Islamic scholar warned of ‘danger’ when he described some Shiite Bahrainis carrying pictures of the Supreme Leader of Iran since 1989 Ayatollah Khamenei and Lebanon’s Hizbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah.

    “They carried Khamenei’s and Nasralah’s pictures as if they belong to Iran and not Bahrain, after all Bahrain belongs to the GCC, and we need them to show real citizenry.”

    Qaradawi expressed his affection to the Bahraini ruling family in his sermon, and described his relation with the late Sheikh Isa ibn Salman al-Khalifa as close.

    http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/03/19/142205.html

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    As I know, 60% of people in Bahrain are shias. Why not they get rights they ask?

    People of Turkey support them too:

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