Lack of Good Suitors

revert2007

Love Fishing
:salam2:

I dont understand one thing :D .pious men are looking for pious women and pious women are looking for pious men , When on both sides we have search going on then where is the missing connection or link :confused:? is it the pride or personal priorities or cultural differences or it is sth else or just too much demands from both sides :confused:

As salamu 'alaikum

Allah's will :)
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
:salam2:

I dont understand one thing :D .pious men are looking for pious women and pious women are looking for pious men , When on both sides we have search going on then where is the missing connection or link :confused:? is it the pride or personal priorities or cultural differences or it is sth else or just too much demands from both sides :confused:

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse among non/less practicing muslims.

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse among rich and *respected* families.

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse among beautiful and handsome people.

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse from same country/culture.

and everything happens according to the Will of Allah.

:)
 

Abdul25

Logical Believer
perhaps because we try to find pious spouse among non/less practicing muslims.

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse among rich and *respected* families.

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse among beautiful and handsome people.

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse from same country/culture.

and everything happens according to the Will of Allah.

:)

:salam2:

SubhanAllah bhai , you have said it beautifully, kahan se copy paste kiya ha ;) :p :D . just kidding. A very very nice post brother :)
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
:salam2:

SubhanAllah bhai , you have said it beautifully, kahan se copy paste kiya ha ;) :p :D . just kidding. A very very nice post brother :)

:salam2:,

dimag aur dil se copy-paste kar dala bhai hehe :D

one more clicked in the mind :tongue:......perhaps because if we like someone in our place who seems to be religious, we dont knock on their door to meet him/her and his/her family. we prefer to live in fantasies rather than to make it a reality if Allah wills.
 

faaraa

Nothing but Muslimah
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HM... finding a pious match is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

HARD INDEED...:lol::lol:

I am saying this because, my parents are looking for s better match for my sister now a days and most of them are not pious at all:girl3:

Indeed we do not know to measure the Thaqwah but what I mean is they are not practicing Muslims :SMILY309:

In some cases I heard, that the groom's family wants the bride to remove her hijaab if she wants to get married..:girl3: (SOME OF THEM NOT ALL..)

PLZ DO PRAY FOR MY SISTER AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR SPOUSES..

FEE AMANILLAH:hearts:

 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Hello everyone.

In the tough economic times of today women have to be breadwinners. Times are tough out there. Unemployment is high..people are hungry..and things are going to get a whole lot tougher.

Marriage is the institution that provides shelter in tough times. It stands to reason that both partners be prepared to tough it out.

The responses about teachers and doctors working with female only is a luxury for Muslim dominant countries. We can get silly about what age a male child stops going to a female pediatrician. When the economy is tough you work to put food on the table. The wives of the Prophet, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, worked.

For some life can be lived in the confines of a home. For others we have to struggle in the middle of the duyna to make ends meet. We are constantly in a state of jihad.

Did we chose this. Does anyone really want to make life harder on oneself than it already is. Please.

Sisters..trust me..marriage is protection. I believe in marriage. A good and pious man is better than anything in the world. He will stand by you.

I came across this:

CAIRO – Year after year, the 42-year-old Saudi surgeon remains single, against her will. Her father keeps turning down marriage proposals, and her hefty salary keeps going directly to his bank account.

The surgeon in the holy city of Medina knows her father, also her male guardian, is violating Islamic law by forcibly keeping her single, a practice known as "adhl." So she has sued him in court, with questionable success.

Adhl cases reflect the many challenges facing single women in Saudi Arabia. But what has changed is that more women are now coming forward with their cases to the media and the law. Dozens of women have challenged their guardians in court over adhl, and one has even set up a Facebook group for victims of the practice.

The backlash comes as Saudi Arabia has just secured a seat on the governing board of the new United Nations Women's Rights Council — a move many activists have decried because of the desert kingdom's poor record on treatment of women. Saudi feminist Wajeha al-Hawaidar describes male guardianship as "a form of slavery."

"A Saudi woman can't even buy a phone without the guardian's permission," said al-Hawaidar, who has been banned from writing or appearing on Saudi television networks because of her vocal support of women's rights. "This law deals with women as juveniles who can't be in charge of themselves at the same time it gives all powers to men."

In a recent report by the pan-Arab Al-Hayat newspaper, the National Society for Human Rights received 30 cases of adhl this year — almost certainly an undercount. A Facebook group called "enough adhl," set up by a university professor and adhl victim, estimates the number at closer to 800,000 cases. The group, with 421 members, aims at rallying support for harsher penalties against men who misuse their guardianship.

An estimated 4 million women over the age of 20 are unmarried in the country of 24.6 million. After 20, women are rapidly seen in Saudi society as getting too old to marry, said Sohila Zein el-Abdydeen, a prominent female member of the governmental National Society for Human Rights.

Fathers cite adhl for a variety of reasons — sometimes because a suitor doesn't belong to the same tribe, or a prominent enough tribe. In other cases, the father wants to keep the allowance that the government gives to single women in poorer families, or cannot afford a dowry.

Islam's holy book, the Quran, warns Muslim men not to prevent their daughters, sisters or female relatives from getting married, or else they will encourage sexual relations outside marriage. But under Saudi judges' interpretation of Islamic Shariah law, the crime can be punished by lifting the male guardianship, nothing more.

Hard-line judges refuse to go even that far. The founder of the Facebook group, who introduced herself only as Amal Saleh in an interview with Saudi daily Al-Watan, said she set up the group after courts let down adhl victims. She said her family threatened her with "death and torture" when she pressed for her right to get married while she was under 30. She is now 37 and still single.

Some judges even punish the women themselves for rebelling against their fathers. In one high-profile adhl case, a young single mother, Samar Badawi, sued her father and demanded he be stripped of his guardianship. She fled her house in March 2008 and spent around two years in a women's protection house in Jeddah, waiting for the court ruling.

In April, she got it — she was sentenced to six months in prison for disobedience.

She was released in late October, under heavy pressure from local rights activists. The judge transferred guardianship to her uncle, and it is not yet clear if her uncle will let her get married.

Badawi has refused to speak to the media after her release, but her lawyer, Waleed Abu Khair, said hard-line judges hate the protection shelters because they say the shelters corrupt women.

In Saudi Arabia, no woman can travel, gain admittance to a public hospital or live independently without a "mahram," or guardian. Men can beat women who don't obey, with special instructions not to pop the eye, break an arm or leave a mark on their bodies.

In the Saudi public school curriculum, boys are taught how to use their guardianship rights.

"Be jealous, beat her hands, protect her and achieve superiority over her," reads page 212 of the Prophet Sayings textbook for 11th grade.

The concept of guardianship is interpreted in conservative Islam as meaning that men are superior to women. Moderate Islamic schools of thought, however, see the practice as an order for men to protect women, financially, emotionally and physically.

Radwa Youssef, an activist, said the answer is not to abolish guardianship but to redefine it. Since 2009, she has collected 5,400 signatures for a campaign called "Our Guardians Know Best." She said many women who go against their male guardians' will marry the wrong men and bring shame on their families.

"I see guardians as bodyguards who are serving women and protecting them; it is a responsibility, not a source of power," Youssef said. "If there is a male misusing his powers, he should be introduced to rehabilitation sessions to advise and guide him."

The Medina Surgeon, as the Saudi media tagged her, has been waiting for justice since 2006.

The surgeon, who has Canadian, British and Saudi certification, filed a lawsuit to drop her father's mandate. But despite a paper trail carrying testimonies from suitors turned away by her father, bank documents that show her father taking over her salary, medical reports showing physical abuse, and the fact that her four other single sisters over 30 face the same destiny, no ruling has yet been issued.

The only answer she gets from the judge is to go back to her father and seek reconciliation.

"He wants me to go to death," she told The Associated Press over the phone from Medina, speaking on condition of anonymity because she feared family retaliation. "Until when I am going to wait? ... The Prophet Muhammad himself wouldn't have allowed adhl to take place."

The surgeon lives in a "protection house," one of dozens scattered around the kingdom for victims of adhl and domestic violence. Under a fake name, she gets escorted to courts accompanied by guards, fearing retaliation from her father.

She recalled her last encounter with her father inside the court: "I kissed his feet. I begged him to set me free, for the sake of God."

She turns 43 next month.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101127...kaW9uX21vc3RfcG9wdWxhcgRzbGsDc2F1ZGl3b21lbnN1
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
^ SubhanAllah, the above article portrays how tough some women have it. Women over 20 are considered too old for marriage?!?! :eek:

Hmm :eek: That is just scary.

So. Brothers are saying its the sisters fault. Sisters are saying its the brothers fault. Tell me one thing - what does a person have to do to get married? How about we talk solutions, instead of moping over the problem?
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
perhaps because we try to find pious spouse among non/less practicing muslims.

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse among rich and *respected* families.

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse among beautiful and handsome people.

perhaps because we try to find pious spouse from same country/culture.

and everything happens according to the Will of Allah.

:)

:salam2:

nice answer bhai :)

reading thru the post i was just reminded of this small story

djust....or do not fall in love ;)

Looking for the Perfect Woman

One afternoon, a Muslim young man and his friend were sitting in a cafe, drinking tea and talking about life and love. His friend asked: “How come you never married?”
“Well,” said the young man, “to tell you the truth, I spent my youth looking for the perfect woman. In Cairo I met a beautiful and intelligent woman, but she was unkind. Then in Baghdad, I met a woman who was a wonderful and generous soul, but we had no common interests. One woman after another would seem just right, but there would always be something missing. Then, one day, I met her. Beautiful, intelligent, generous and kind. We had very much in common. In fact, she was perfect!”
“What happened?” his friend, “Why didn’t you marry her?”
He sipped his tea reflectively. “Well,” he replied, “it’s really the sad story of my life….
It seemed she was looking for the perfect man…

I think what we all are forgetting is ADJUST, one of the most problematic thing in today's society is marriage and people dont understand the importance of it in a religious society.

From wat i have seen is brother and sisters who got married young, got involved into less fitnah were able to get to know each other better and lead a better life. Education is part of life but we gotto know where we are going in life too, for brothers since its our duty as a muslim and a husband to bring money and be financially responsible we have to strive hard in our studies, and for sisters they gotto know their goals in life too.

And All the brothers always say WE NEED A PIOUS MUSLIMAH TO MARRY and its the vice versa for sisters, if pious is wat we need then focus on people's deen not other things.

If deen is the priority for both Brothers and Sisters than please LEARN to ADJUST!!!


May Allah (swt) provide us all with pious, compatible spouses - ameen :)
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
^ SubhanAllah, the above article portrays how tough some women have it. Women over 20 are considered too old for marriage?!?! :eek:

Hmm :eek: That is just scary.

So. Brothers are saying its the sisters fault. Sisters are saying its the brothers fault. Tell me one thing - what does a person have to do to get married? How about we talk solutions, instead of moping over the problem?

:salam2:

thats a good point instead of argueing [wat i see on this thread] see a solution :)
 

Abdul25

Logical Believer
Women over 20 are considered too old for marriage?!?! :eek:

Hmm :eek: That is just scary.

So. Brothers are saying its the sisters fault. Sisters are saying its the brothers fault. Tell me one thing - what does a person have to do to get married? How about we talk solutions, instead of moping over the problem?

@RED:- Yes , i want to marry some one near 20's , neither older nor younger :D. Well these are personal preferences. some dont have a problem with age but i have :D


@Green :- yes we should talk about solutions instead of arguing . argues lead to no conclusion
 

ansari

STRANGER...
:wasalam: YES SISTER!!!???? :lol: :D

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bhai aap ko English samajh nhin aati ha kiya :p ? :D

(dont u understand English ) ?

:salam2:
SISTA I can speak english perfectly well :lol:

hey I am a brother :D. there is sth called Profile and in there "about me " . you gotta check it out :p :D





:salam2:

brother Shaheer and Korai... we having serious discussion here.
if you guys want to have fun please go to some other place ( lol )

:wasalam:
 

ansari

STRANGER...
:salam2:


Narrated Abu Hurairah, r.a.
Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said, 'When someone with whose religion and character you are satisfied asks your daughter in marriage, accede to his request. If you do not do so, there will be temptation on Earth and extensive corruption.' [Tirmidhi, Nasa'i and Ibn Majah transmitted it.]


'Abdullah b. Amr reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The whole world is a provision, and the best object of benefit of the world is the pious woman.
[Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3465 ]
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Yes, son that is the truth.

People get so scared about provision we lose our minds.
 
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