Muslim traditions, do's and don'ts.
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LittleMe1989
New Member
interesting
Muslimah99
Bosnian Muslimah
yes I noticed these things too and in some matters they contradict themselves, generally I have benefited from their page but mostly I personally use www.islamweb.net or some German pages about islam... secondly it doesn't mean that they can't be correct about various things...and I am quite sure about that birthday thing you see...why celebrate that you have one year less to live? I mean isn't that cynical?
I totally agree with you on your last statement sister!..
I never had any desire to celebrate my birthdays..and I always criticized those going out of their ways "celebrating" them..even before I started practicing Islam..
the opinion on birthdays varies like many other issues...some accept it..some refuse it..some say it's culture..some say it's not..it can get very confusing and frustrating..
I am not on one side of the argument (halal or haram)..so I do what it is recommended..I stay away from it to the best of my ability..
I *never* attend birthday parties (that's established..so people don't even invite me to them!)...and should someone mention their birthday to me or remind me of it (which happens a lot)..I make a small dua'a for them (i.e. may you live long..may you have a prosperous year..etc.)..and should they expect a gift..I give it to them after the birthday..with the *full* intention of it being *just a gift*..because that is permissible..and the Prophet (pbuh) himself accepted gifts from others..so I do this based on that..
wa alaikum assalam
must91
Junior Member
waterdrop
Well Ms Waterdrop you had a valid inquiry but unfortunately it's being hijacked by birthdays and no birthdays.
Well in your first posting you answered your own question. You mentioned that you watch your neighbour's house when they're away. In fact you are giving them the best possible reply for their generosity. Keep doing that and let them know it too.
In fact when a muslim is trying to be a good caring neighbour he/she is not doing you any favour. What they are actually doing is pleasing Allah (SWT) beacuse a muslim's whole life is spent in seeking what pleases Allah(SWT). And the pleasure of Allah is learnt through the Quraan (the final revelation from the Creator) and through the teachings and traditions (actions) of the final messenger of Allah - Muhammad the unlettered prophet sent towards all mankind.
Instead by watching their house you are doing them a great favour. However if you still insist on giving them gifts or buying dinner or lunch you can go ahead. Yes as someone in the panel mentioned that pork and alcohol is totally not permitted for muslims, likewise haram food (meat from animal - sheep, goat, chicken, duck, permissible birds, cow, deer, camel) slaughtered in an unislamic manner should also not be used to throw a treat to muslims. You can find out where they buy their halal meat from or which halal certified restaurant they frequent and use these two avenues.
Exchanging gifts is part of the Islamic way of life.
The prophet Muhammad (SWS) used to send gifts and encouraged his follows to do likewise.
You can choose a gift that may not be lavish but perhaps one to show appriciation or one that may come into everyday use like frying pan, a toaster, a stainless steel set, a wall cloak or a pair of slip ons, even a bunch of flower will do and why not, when the Prophet Muhammad (SWS) himself said so and did so.
One last point, your so very generous neighbour is yet to give you the best gift and that is the gift of kalimah so that you two could be each others neighbour in paradise too.
May the Creator and Sustainer of all the creations guide us to the path that He has detailed so explicitly and simply.
Well Ms Waterdrop you had a valid inquiry but unfortunately it's being hijacked by birthdays and no birthdays.
Well in your first posting you answered your own question. You mentioned that you watch your neighbour's house when they're away. In fact you are giving them the best possible reply for their generosity. Keep doing that and let them know it too.
In fact when a muslim is trying to be a good caring neighbour he/she is not doing you any favour. What they are actually doing is pleasing Allah (SWT) beacuse a muslim's whole life is spent in seeking what pleases Allah(SWT). And the pleasure of Allah is learnt through the Quraan (the final revelation from the Creator) and through the teachings and traditions (actions) of the final messenger of Allah - Muhammad the unlettered prophet sent towards all mankind.
Instead by watching their house you are doing them a great favour. However if you still insist on giving them gifts or buying dinner or lunch you can go ahead. Yes as someone in the panel mentioned that pork and alcohol is totally not permitted for muslims, likewise haram food (meat from animal - sheep, goat, chicken, duck, permissible birds, cow, deer, camel) slaughtered in an unislamic manner should also not be used to throw a treat to muslims. You can find out where they buy their halal meat from or which halal certified restaurant they frequent and use these two avenues.
Exchanging gifts is part of the Islamic way of life.
The prophet Muhammad (SWS) used to send gifts and encouraged his follows to do likewise.
You can choose a gift that may not be lavish but perhaps one to show appriciation or one that may come into everyday use like frying pan, a toaster, a stainless steel set, a wall cloak or a pair of slip ons, even a bunch of flower will do and why not, when the Prophet Muhammad (SWS) himself said so and did so.
One last point, your so very generous neighbour is yet to give you the best gift and that is the gift of kalimah so that you two could be each others neighbour in paradise too.
May the Creator and Sustainer of all the creations guide us to the path that He has detailed so explicitly and simply.
Mairo
Maryama
Assalaam Aleikum,
I know there are many differing opinions surrounding the celebrations of birthdays or other holidays in Islam. I am a revert and still not certain of my own opinion in these regards. I do know gift giving in general, and spending time with family members, is highly encouraged in Islam. And I also know that Muhammad used to commemorate his wife Kadija every year after she passed (I can't remember if it was on her birthday or what date he had selected for that). However, I also understand and appreciate the warnings regarding staying away from innovations in the religion and actually taking part in the practicing of other religious holidays. I think it probably would help to read more about specific examples of how Muhammad acted during his lifetime towards others, especially the Christians and Jews. Does anyone have any other references that might be helpful in this regard?
I know there are many differing opinions surrounding the celebrations of birthdays or other holidays in Islam. I am a revert and still not certain of my own opinion in these regards. I do know gift giving in general, and spending time with family members, is highly encouraged in Islam. And I also know that Muhammad used to commemorate his wife Kadija every year after she passed (I can't remember if it was on her birthday or what date he had selected for that). However, I also understand and appreciate the warnings regarding staying away from innovations in the religion and actually taking part in the practicing of other religious holidays. I think it probably would help to read more about specific examples of how Muhammad acted during his lifetime towards others, especially the Christians and Jews. Does anyone have any other references that might be helpful in this regard?
Faiza619
Strangers on earth
:salam2:
Ameen to that
well ms waterdrop the brother here is very right.
you have already given your gift in return that is you watch over their house when they are away.
May Allah reward you and open your heart to accept Islam. :tti_sister:
TheHumbleWun
Banned
Asalaamu'Alykum,
Don't want to take this furtherBut i see what your saying. If it is on the Qur'an & Authentic Sunnah its not really extreme is it?
But that's how i see it.
Jazaaka Allaahu Khayran brother.
Alhamdulilah
Wasalam
Salaam akhi,
Just curious...do you celebrate New Years or any of your country holiday (i.e. Independence Day)?
Asalaamu'Alykum,
No brother i don't celebrate any of them. Just haven't bothered with it all. Maybe when i was in Primary School, someone may have said Happy New Year and i would say "same to you".
Sorry for changing the topic.
Wasalam
TheHumbleWun
Banned
Asalaamu'Alykum,
No brother i don't celebrate any of them. Just haven't bothered with it all. Maybe when i was in Primary School, someone may have said Happy New Year and i would say "same to you".
Sorry for changing the topic.
Wasalam
Salaam,
You know a lot of times when we say we "celebrate" we quickly make judgement and think we are doing the same stuff as the non-believers, like drinking alcohol, smoking, etc.
Actually when I celebrate like New Years (which I hardly do) or Mothers Day we just have a family dinner/lunch, go out and eat, or even watch a movie. There is a line between culture and religion and *I believe* that this is no more than just culture and popular habits rather than innovation in religion. Different people enjoy different things, and some people are cynical when someone else is spending time with their family without even knowing their intentions.
wasalaam
isabelelsherif
Junior Member
hi there
dinner cards are pretty dificult because not only should the restaurant not serve alcohol and pork but it also has to be Halal.
American express gift cards are the best
this way they can chose where they would like to use them
you can pick them up in certain banks i think if you google american express gift checks they will inform you where you can pick one up
dinner cards are pretty dificult because not only should the restaurant not serve alcohol and pork but it also has to be Halal.
American express gift cards are the best
this way they can chose where they would like to use them
you can pick them up in certain banks i think if you google american express gift checks they will inform you where you can pick one up
dianek
Junior Member
must91,
thanks for the reply. After seeing all of this birthday stuff I thought perhaps I should just get her a fruitcake
thanks for the replies.
LOL!!!! YUCK.......just be sure you get the Brandy free cake!!!!!!
dianek
Junior Member
I believe most religions bar fruitcake, and they're illegal in most states.
AGREED!!!!!! Though my aunt makes a kick a@%! cake.....
Asalaamu'Alykum,
I understanding what your saying. I guess celebrating could have been the wrong word but joining in these fetivities in a way supports what they are doing. Mothers Day is pretty much joke because of the fact how muslims should treat their mother anyway. But i understand the intention aspect, but why do we need to know that?
Because if the person was seeking Allah's pleasure, all good, but if it was different what affect is it upon us? Its not innovation but more imitating the non-muslims which we should avoid.
Alhamdulilah
P.S: Short reply, have to rush
Wasalam
TheHumbleWun
Banned
Asalaamu'Alykum,
I understanding what your saying. I guess celebrating could have been the wrong word but joining in these fetivities in a way supports what they are doing. Mothers Day is pretty much joke because of the fact how muslims should treat their mother anyway. But i understand the intention aspect, but why do we need to know that?
Because if the person was seeking Allah's pleasure, all good, but if it was different what affect is it upon us? Its not innovation but more imitating the non-muslims which we should avoid.
Alhamdulilah
P.S: Short reply, have to rush
Wasalam
Salaam akhi,
It's true that every day should be "Mothers Day" in Islam and not just once a year. The way I see it, we (yes us Muslim!) are sometimes so busy and content with our own lives that sometimes we don't really spend a day with our mothers. Maybe it's not you and I, but there can be someone, right? Why not use that day to appreciate and thank ALL the mothers in the world? Again, just like birthdays these are innovation in habits not innovation in religion (Islam).
"Imitating the non-believers" huh? The non-believers have eyes & mouths too? Are we "imitating" them? Certain things like dress codes or drinking alcohol is imitating the non-believers because those are forbidden in Islam and has to do with religion, whereas "Mothers Day" is culture and not religion. Mothers Day is not an act of worship but an act of appreciation. My opinion.
walaakum salaam
Asalaamu'Alykum,
Brother, after a quick search:
Ancient Celebrations of Mothers and Motherhood
People in many ancient cultures celebrated holidays honoring motherhood, personified as a goddess. Here are just a few of those:
Ancient Greeks celebrated a holiday in honor of Rhea, the mother of the gods
ancient Romans celebrated a holiday in honor of Cybele, a mother goddess, March 22-25 - the celebrations were notorious enough that followers of Cybele were banished from Rome
In the British Isles and Celtic Europe, the goddess Brigid, and later her successor St. Brigid, were honored with a spring Mother's Day, connected with the first milk of the ewes
Reference: http://womenshistory.about.com/od/mothersday/a/early.htm
EDIT: This was early mother's day, i know its changed a lot in terms of buying gifts and thanking your mother etc. But that does not make it okay.
Wasalam
Brother, after a quick search:
Ancient Celebrations of Mothers and Motherhood
People in many ancient cultures celebrated holidays honoring motherhood, personified as a goddess. Here are just a few of those:
Ancient Greeks celebrated a holiday in honor of Rhea, the mother of the gods
ancient Romans celebrated a holiday in honor of Cybele, a mother goddess, March 22-25 - the celebrations were notorious enough that followers of Cybele were banished from Rome
In the British Isles and Celtic Europe, the goddess Brigid, and later her successor St. Brigid, were honored with a spring Mother's Day, connected with the first milk of the ewes
Reference: http://womenshistory.about.com/od/mothersday/a/early.htm
EDIT: This was early mother's day, i know its changed a lot in terms of buying gifts and thanking your mother etc. But that does not make it okay.
Wasalam
TheHumbleWun
Banned
Salaam akhi,
Mother’s Day gains its history from many sources around the world. However, here is the history of Mothers Day in the U.S.
Source: http://www.mothersdaycelebration.com/story-of-anna-jarvis.html
U.S. President Woodrow Wilson made it official in 1914, proclaiming Mother’s Day a national holiday. So, in this country (U.S), with historical underpinnings of pacifism, social activism, and honoring mothers, regardless of whether they were Northern or Southern, Mother’s Day grew to become an honorable and commercial endeavor.
Yes, as good, practicing Muslims, we should be respectful and take care of our mothers always. We don’t need a special day to remind us of this. But at the same time, what’s the harm in, if we choose to, joining the collective America to particularly pamper our moms on the second Sunday in May? It’s just meant to be fun and a way to get more money out of our pockets—but that’s another story!
"Your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him and that you be kind to parents" (Quran, 17:23)
If I logically follow your premise, about imitating the non-believers, then you are going against the above verse. Here's a logical statement:
A = person that is Muslim and loves his mom (parents)
B= person that is NOT Muslim but loves his mom (parents)
The two both love their mom. However person A believes he should love his mom/parents every day. Person B loves his mom but only gives attention just once a year. If A loves his mom/parents every day then by all mean he loves his mom/parents on that day too!!!
Give or take, a person can love his mom/parents greater than that day and perhaps many times a year.
So if you are saying don't imitate the non-believers then should we hate our mom/parents that day? That would be against the words of Allah swt.
*Removed*
Mother’s Day gains its history from many sources around the world. However, here is the history of Mothers Day in the U.S.
Source: http://www.mothersdaycelebration.com/story-of-anna-jarvis.html
U.S. President Woodrow Wilson made it official in 1914, proclaiming Mother’s Day a national holiday. So, in this country (U.S), with historical underpinnings of pacifism, social activism, and honoring mothers, regardless of whether they were Northern or Southern, Mother’s Day grew to become an honorable and commercial endeavor.
Yes, as good, practicing Muslims, we should be respectful and take care of our mothers always. We don’t need a special day to remind us of this. But at the same time, what’s the harm in, if we choose to, joining the collective America to particularly pamper our moms on the second Sunday in May? It’s just meant to be fun and a way to get more money out of our pockets—but that’s another story!
"Your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him and that you be kind to parents" (Quran, 17:23)
If I logically follow your premise, about imitating the non-believers, then you are going against the above verse. Here's a logical statement:
A = person that is Muslim and loves his mom (parents)
B= person that is NOT Muslim but loves his mom (parents)
The two both love their mom. However person A believes he should love his mom/parents every day. Person B loves his mom but only gives attention just once a year. If A loves his mom/parents every day then by all mean he loves his mom/parents on that day too!!!
Give or take, a person can love his mom/parents greater than that day and perhaps many times a year.
So if you are saying don't imitate the non-believers then should we hate our mom/parents that day? That would be against the words of Allah swt.
*Removed*
Abdul Hasib
Student of Knowledge
That's Bidah (or AHraam I think).