Would you marry a sister in purdah

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Muhammad_A

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That too :eek:

Throwing myself at a British/NATO machine gun emplacement in Helmand sounds like more fun

(And a really great way to get rid of those annoying urges :rolleyes: )
 

muhammad.abdullah

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Please look out your words. You are calling all those pious people who bowed their heads at the decision of their parents and not only that but they remained happy with their wives all their lives. In Pakistan and India, there are not only few but hundreds of thousands successful arranged marraiges. Are those people stupid? and you are wise?

Ofcourse it is better to meet someone before marrying but you cant call those people stupid who are more humble and God fearing than you. It is simply the sick WESTERN life which makes people think like that.


Wassalam,
VE

aoa bro, its correct, you are grabbing the wrong end of the stick. I dont know what you made out of my post. I didnt wana use the word "pig" as they say "sweating like a pig" and it reflects your distress and tension when you are upto a dauting task. I didnt call anyone stupid, no, you rather interpreted it the wrong way. :astag:

What i meant was it would be very difficult to ask a girls hand in marriage if you are to do it yourself. Thats it....

May Allah bless you...

ws
 

Abu Sarah

Allahu Akbar
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Assalam Alaykum

please dont attack me now , thats so true...

i'll :).......

Brother in islam,

can u Explain these words...

woman wear it to hide them self so they can do whatever they want without anybody know them.


ya Akhi any unfaithful muslims who's not followe the Quran n sunnah can do like these shamful things..n plz don't judge on All by one who's doing sins..
n as u know in any place u 'll find the good n bad ones..due to that's don't judge in Genral.....

and plz Keep in ur mind ..Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Women impure are for men impure… and women of purity are for men of purity…” [al-Noor 24:26].

then if the good muslim u should believe in u 'll married good muslimah..insha`Allah..

n if u not good muslim remember that :Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
"Bad statements are for bad people (or bad women for bad men) and bad people for bad statements (or bad men for bad women). . . "
[al-Noor 24:26]



finally: Repentance is essential on u, 4 judging on muslim's girls n that's not permissible ........

IF im sure that she wear it for sake of allah.....


Akhi that's weighing up deeds n only Allah know her intention

n we just on outward appearance on according to this Hadeeth
and also this hadeeth only 4 judge on Everyone who innovates in Islam ..

It was narrated that the Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever does any action that is not in accordance with this matter of ours (i.e., Islam), will have it rejected.” (Narrated by Muslim, al-Aqdiyyah, 3243).

Ibn Rajab (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “This hadeeth forms one of the most important principles of Islam. It is like a scale for weighing up deeds according to their outward appearance, just as the hadeeth ‘The reward of deeds depends upon the intentions’ is the means of weighing up the inner nature of deeds. Just as every action which is not intended for the sake of Allaah brings no reward to the one who does it....
.....end Quoted......

finally : I ask Allaah to bless you with a righteous spouse.n grant u good wife ..
but keep in ur mind this Hadeeth

the Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave the following advice:

“Women are married for four things: wealth, lineage, beauty and religious commitment. Marry the one who is religious, may your hands be rubbed with dust! (i.e., may you prosper).

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4802; Muslim, 1466).

Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said: the meaning is that what is appropriate for the man who is religious and chivalrous is that religion must be the ultimate focus in all things, and especially with regard to the choice of a lifelong companion. So the Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded him to seek a religious woman, since religion is his ultimate goal.”
(Fath al-Bari, 9/135).


i leave u in care of Allah

<wasalam>
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
I will marry her and i will be happy IF im sure that she wear it for sake of allah..... because in my area some of woman wear it to hide them self so they can do whatever they want without anybody know them... please dont attack me now , thats so true...


Assalamu alaikum Brother Islamicfajr,

We are with you 100%!!! :shake:

Brother Raed said ''some'', while you left that out when you quoted him. Raed and I come from countries where it is a tradition or custom for some women to cover up completely. :astag: They don`t do it because they are Islamically obligated to do so. This is a fact, and we don`t claim that we know their intentions, but it`s as clear as light from their behavior. I can mention many true stories, but I won`t, because it makes you cry.

There is no generalization here. He means that where we live, you cannot assume that a girl is faithful and pious just because she wears the full hijab and covers her face.

A woman is not considered religious based soloely on her outward appearance. At least not in some Muslim countries. That might be different in the west, but he was talking about the Gulf countries.

Finally, if a woman dresses up completely because of her love to Allah, who would reject such a pious woman. If she fears Allah and obeys Him in the way she looks, she will fear Allah in every other aspect of life.
 

Abu Sarah

Allahu Akbar
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In defence of Correct Hijab n All sister's who's wearing it

Assalam alaykum

that's so strange , because here every one says they want to marry a woman who puts the viel, and is modest, while in reality, all the girls i know and who wear hijab and dress modeslty without make up pr jeans, they don't find any husband, all the girls i know and who managed to marry are those who really looked beautifull and attractive even in their hijab, and who were quite fashionable even if they don't wear jeans etc..., i know so many girls in this case

sister in islam,

Strong faith must have effects which can be seen in a person's appearance and conduct. If a person persists in sin, this is a sign of weak faith.

and as u know unwearning Hajjab is big sin..n also

see : Verses and hadeeth about Correct Hijaab

see : Ruling on covering the face, with detailed evidence

n here : Ruling on women wearing pants and bathing suits

and Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Jibreen saied :

hijaab is obligatory for women. Allaah is the One Who has commanded women to cover their adornments, including the face, bosom and all their adornments. This has been enjoined upon women as a protection against abuse and temptation. That is because women are the focus of desire, and the focus of what those who are tempted look at. So if a woman uncovers her beauty she will provoke desire, and people will become attracted to her and will follow her. This is the cause of many immoral actions such as adultery and the things that lead to it. So hijaab is obligatory for women and was enjoined upon them in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“…and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)…”

[al-Noor 24:31]

The veil (khimaar) is that which comes down from the head and covers the face, and the jilbaab is an outer garment with which a woman covers herself, leaving no part of her body showing.

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“…And when you ask (his [the Prophet’s] wives) for anything you want, ask them from behind a screen…”

[al-Ahzaab 33:53]

So it is a protection for women so that there will be no room for people to treat them as playthings.
...end Quoted from Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Jibreen.......

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aslo the scholars have based the conditions of the hijaab (covering) which Muslim women must wear in front of non-mahram men on the evidence in the Qur’aan and Sunnah. So long as a woman adheres to these conditions, she may wear whatever she likes in public places and elsewhere, and her hijaab will be considered Islamic. These conditions may be summarized as follows:

  • The hijaab must cover her entire body
  • It should be thick enough to conceal what is underneath it
  • It should be loose-fitting, not tight
  • It should not be so attractive as to call men’s attention to it
  • It should not be perfumed
  • It should not be a dress of fame and vanity (i.e., it should be extravagant or excessively opulent)
  • It should not resemble the dress of men
  • It should not resemble the dress of kaafir women
  • It should not be adorned with any crosses or pictures of animate beings


n u should Be Ideal Muslimah

then if u know like these unfaithful girls.. What you have to do is try to plant the seeds of faith in there heart and help it to grow strong. What is meant by that is the kind of faith that will motivate a person to behave in accordance with the sharee’ah. Then try to instill in them a love of the hijaab and of righteous deeds, such as explaining the benefits of hijaab and how good it is, and giving her books and audio tapes, if these are available, which speak about that. One of the most important means which will help to achieve this is to put her in touch – in an indirect manner – with righteous women who wear the hijaab and try to have frequent family gatherings with righteous relatives.

If you do this, you will have tried various means of convincing them. Then you will have to oblige them in an appropriate fashion and not allow her to go out to public places without hijaab.

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n here if u give them Advice n the making fun of Hijab

tell them Ruling on making fun of the hijab

Whoever makes fun of a Muslim man or woman for adhering to the Islamic sharee’ah is a kaafir, whether he is mocking a Muslim woman for observing correct Islamic hijaab or for some other reason.

Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) narrated that during the campaign of Tabook a man said: “I have never seen anything like these Qur’aan readers of ours. They have the biggest bellies, the most lying tongues and they are the most cowardly when meeting the enemy.” Another man said, “You are lying, and you are a hypocrite. I will most certainly tell the Messenger of Allaah :saw:(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) [what you have said].” He told the Messenger of Allaah :saw:(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then Qur’aan was revealed. ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar said: “I saw him (that man) hanging onto the saddle of the she-camel of the Messenger of Allaah, (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), stumbling over the stones, and he [the Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] was saying,

“Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?”

Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimoon (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals)”


[al-Tawbah 9:65-66 – interpretation of the meaning]

So mocking the believers is equivalent to mocking Allaah, His verses and His Messenger. And Allaah is the Source of strength.



Al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, in al-Fataawa al-Jaami’ah li’l-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, part 3, p. 813


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n tell them it is essential to know that Muslim men and Muslim women are obliged to follow the commands of Allaah and His Messenger, no matter how difficult that may be for people and without feeling shy of other people. The believer who is sincere in his faith is the one who is sincere in carrying out his duty towards his Lord and obeying His commands and avoiding that which He has forbidden. No believer, man or woman, has the right to hesitate or delay with regard to commands; rather he or she should hear and obey immediately, in accordance with words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):

“It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allaah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision”
[al-Ahzaab 33:36]

This is the case with the believers who are praised by their Lord in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“The only saying of the faithful believers, when they are called to Allaah (His Words, the Qur’aan) and His Messenger, to judge between them, is that they say: “We hear and we obey.” And such are the successful (who will live forever in Paradise).

And whosoever obeys Allaah and His Messenger , fears Allaah, and keeps his duty (to Him), such are the successful”
[al-Noor 24:51-52]

Moreover, the Muslim should not look at how small or great the sin is, rather he should look at the greatness and might of the One Whom he is disobeying, for He is the Most Great, the Most High; He is Mighty in strength and Severe in punishment, and His punishment is severe and painful and humiliating. If He exacts vengeance on those who disobey Him, then utter destruction will be their fate.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Such is the Seizure of your Lord when He seizes the (population of) towns while they are doing wrong. Verily, His Seizure is painful (and) severe.

Indeed in that (there) is a sure lesson for those who fear the torment of the Hereafter. That is a Day whereon mankind will be gathered together, and that is a Day when all (the dwellers of the heavens and the earth) will be present”

[Hood 11:102-103]

A sin may appear insignificant in the eyes of a person when before Allaah it is serious, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“you counted it a little thing, while with Allaah it was very great”

[al-Noor 24:15]

This matter is as some of the scholars said: “Do not look at the smallness of the sin, rather look at the One Whom you are disobeying.” We have to obey Allaah and do as He commands. We must remember that He is watching in secret and in public, and avoid that which He has forbidden.

With regard to belief, if a Muslim who prays commits some sins or bad deeds, he is still a Muslim so long as he does not commit any action which would put him beyond the pale of Islam or do any of the things which nullify Islam. This sinful Muslim will be subject to the will of Allaah in the Hereafter; if He wills He will punish him, and if He wills He will forgive him. If he enters Hell in the hereafter, he will not abide there forever. But no person can be certain as to his fate, as to whether the punishment will befall him or not, because this matter is known only to Allaah.

Sins are divided into two categories, minor and major. Minor sins may be expiated for by prayer, fasting and righteous deeds. Major sins (which are those concerning which a specific warning has been narrated, or for which there is a specific hadd punishment in this world or torment in the Hereafter) cannot be expiated for by righteous deeds. Rather the one who commits such sins has to repent sincerely from them. Whoever repents, Allaah will accept his repentance. There are many kinds of major sins such as lying, zinaa, riba (usury/interest), stealing, not wearing hijaab at all, and so on.

Based on the above, we cannot say for certain whether a woman who does not wear hijaab will enter Hell, but she deserves the punishment of Allaah because she has disobeyed His command to her. With regard to her specific fate, Allaah knows best what it will be. We cannot speak about things of which we have no knowledge, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And follow not (O man, i.e., say not, or do not, or witness not) that of which you have no knowledge. Verily, the hearing, and the sight, and the heart of each of those ones will be questioned (by Allaah)”
[al-Israa’ 17:36]

It is sufficient deterrent for the Muslim whose heart is aware to know that if he does a certain action he will be exposed to the punishment of his Lord, because His punishment is severe and painful, and His Fire is hot indeed.

“The Fire of Allaah, kindled, Which leaps up over the hearts” [al-Humazah 104:6-7]

On the other hand, for the woman who obeys her Lord’s commands – including observing complete hijaab – we hope that she will enter Paradise and attain the victory of salvation from the Fire and its torments
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n also if u have brothers in islam wanna maried like these girls plz reminder them that fthe Husband is responsible if his wife and daughters do not wear hijaab and do not adhere to the rulings of sharee’ah, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Ward off yourselves and your families against a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones”
[al-Tahreem 66:6]

And as the Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“Each of you is a shepherd and is responsible for his flock… the man is a shepherd over the members of his household and is responsible for his flock…”

n tell him that all of a woman is ‘awrah and is to be covered before “strangers’ (non-mahrams), because of the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And when you ask (his wives) for anything you want, ask them from behind a screen”
[al-Ahzaab 33:53]

and because of the hadeeth, “All of a woman is ‘awrah.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi with a saheeh isnaad).

This is the correct view according to the madhhab of the Hanbalis, one of the two views of the Maalikis and one of the two views of the Shaafa’is....

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finally : 4 All sister whom wearing Hijab and not find the good Husband..

I give you the glad tidings of the words that the Prophet :saw:(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to the Sahaabah: “There will come a time when patience is required of the one who adheres (to Islam), and he will have the reward of fifty of you.” They said, “Of them?” He said, “No, of you.”

(Narrated by Ibn Nasr; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilat al-Saheehah, 494)

n plz, be patient in adhering to hijaab even though it may be difficult. How much did our examples, the men and women of the Sahaabah, suffer for the sake of Allaah; we suffer only a fraction of what they suffered. This is the path to Paradise. For Hell is surrounded with whims and desires and Paradise is surrounded with difficulties.

Be certain that hijaab is only difficult because it is new to you. If you are patient and have faith, this difficulty will fade – in sha Allaah – and it will become easy and you will become comfortable with the hijaab. If you remember the reward, that which is difficult will become easier.

The fact that you are wearing hijaab even though you find it difficult is a sign that your faith is strong.

and i advice u make du’aa’ asking Allaah to give u a good and righteous husband. Du’aa’ is one of the best things with which a Muslim may equip himself and the best way in which a Muslim may seek to meet his needs.

I ask Allaah to make All us steadfast in adhering to the religion.


i leave u in care of Allah

<wasalam>
 

sky_012

Junior Member
brother islamicfajr, Jazak Allah for the links, but i'm not saying wearing the hijab is bad , otherwise i wouldn't be wearing it myself lol
i don't think anyone got my point here, but in france, to tell u the truth, and i precise i live in a little city, where i don't meet ppl often , so my experience is only limited to university and what happens there,

so i have noticed that males say they don't look at beauty but want a pious woman who is humble and has haya by wearing the hijab, but in my uni, i've noticed, males they respect of course hijabi girls, but they prefer marrying fashionable good looking girls, or u know sometimes, hijab doesn't suit every girl, some look better without it, and on some it looks really good, they look prettier in hijab, and what i've seen through my friend, is that the males in my uni who look for pious girls, in fact they still look at their appearance that's why my friend she isn't managing to find any husband

well personnaly, i just said that as a remark because for me, in my culture parents arrange marriages, so we don't have to look by ourselves like some sisters have to do at uni, because in their culture, they choose by themselves , and i'm happy in our culture it's like this , because i don't know if in islam, u can't talk to opposite gender, how can u choose by urself ur husband? plus i think at our age at uni we are too young to get married, but if some sisters want , it's not bad either
 

brother4ever

Junior Member
:salam2: :ma: :ma: Hey brothers would u marry a sister who observes purdah???? and sisters if a guy a says he 's not marrying u if u're wearing a veil would u take it off??or tell him jump off the bridge bro cos they are more fishes in the ocean........or if u're spouse tell u to stop wearing the veil or he don't like the idea of u wearing it???????

i was chatting with some sisters and some of em don't want to wear the veil cos they think they would never find a spouse cos as they say most guys don't like the veil..............well as i will say again it's sad what the muslim ummat is coming too.............that people have no trust in Allah swt they prefer to please the creation rather than please the CREATOR OF THE CREATIONS THE LORD OF THE HEAVEN AND EARTH...................

Well i'm in purdah and if a guy want to marry me he'll marry as i am and no way am i taking it off cos i'll be in my own grave when i go 6ft deep not his i have to pay for my own shortcomings.....as i told the sisters good guys want good girls so a guy with islamic values and common sense would prefer a sister who covers rather than flaunt herself for the world to see.......:blackhijab:

:salam2:
Inshallah I will only marry a sister who observe pardha.

ALLAH HAFIZ
Ur Brother
 

safi_shade

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ofcaurse yes

:salam2:
dear sister
allah will send a man who deserver this grl , yes , and this is my wish to marry from a muslim grl
thanks all
:salah:
 

BintMuhammad

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Maybe brother Mabsoot meant a girl from 'cemetery'. hehe.

Wassalaam,
VE

That's creepy :D I don't think bro Mabsoot would want a zombie as his wife. I'm sure he meant someone who loves staying at home.

(bro Mabsoot is gonna kill us once he reads our thread about him)
 

muslim .id

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muslima.id

As salaamu Alaikum Wa Rehmatullaahi WA Barkatahu,

You are absolutely right sister.Taking off hijab who dont have islamic knowledge is something foolish.

And i personally believe that a righteous woman is always blessed with a righteous man.And brother Mohsin yes i can say for sure that a woman who have islamic knowledge will always see for a man with "beard" because a man with a beard is far more superior than a man with out beard.

May Allaah Bless you and your family.

As salaamu Alaikum Wa Rehmatullaahi WA Barkatahu,
 

unique_princess

AlQudsu tunadeena
:salam2:

we gotta remember that mostly ppl with beards/niqaab are good but some are well????simply have other reasons...i sppose we gotta c what the person is like b4 getting married to them....may b a private detective would do a good job? :wink:

ma'assalaama
 
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